Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by soyizgood, Feb 2, 2009.
She belongs in this thread...with her own sociopath sub-category.
I'd Give Azarenka an exception, she played very well in 2012 with that number 1 ranking. Actually looked like a number 1, which is shocking for the WTA.
What's wrong with Kvitova? You mean what's wrong with Ivanovic??:shock:
It's one thing to lose a match against a fellow Grand Slam champion but to allow yourself to get double-bagelled after winning the first set! What the heck is that all about?? :twisted:
Had a hot date?
Pathetic effort from Ana. Just don't understand why she regularly goes on bad episodes like this. This one was particularly bad though.
Sloane got promoted to Rank and File. Suarez Navarro should be quite the bread authority by now.
What do you expect? She's a fluke major winner with a streaky career. Any victories over better players appeared to be pure luck.
Who are the young players you folks are looking forward to the most?
Me, I'm looking forward to Belinda Bencic and Ana Konjuh the most. 17 year old and 16 year old currently ranked inside the top 200. They dominated the junior tour last year winning 2 slams each. Bencic's game is sort of similar to Chakvetadze's (who's game was sort of similar to Hingis, Belinda was co-coached by Hingis' mom as a matter of fact), Konjuh's game is more of a powerful style of play; big serve, big groundstrokes.
Should be interesting to see how they fare this year, I think Belinda should crack the top 100 whereas Konjuh since she's been out for a couple of months due to elbow surgery might not be able to crack it.
It's interesting how the WTA seems to have more young prospects than the ATP, I mean everyone is hyping up Dimitrov and he's almost 23. Not that the young WTA prospects are exactly lighting it up at the top of the game yet, but if you told me that a year from now some young player would be lighting it up at the top of one of the tours my first guess would be WTA.
Exhibition between Hingis and Bencic. To be honest, from the baseline, I couldn't tell much difference between the two. Hingis better backhand, maybe.
Death. Taxes. Sharapova being clowned by Serena. The three givens in life.
Serena, on if Justine Henin was her biggest rival: "No. Venus. Please."
The bitterness towards Henin is still pretty much alive.
The fourth given is U.S. tennis and media announcing the "next great" player...namely Sloane Stephens...only to have the player self-destruct.
I don't like to compare young players to legends of the sport, so I just compare her to Chakvetadze. It's a much less loaded comparison and it fits well I feel.
Well,eventually they must be right. The USA has constantly churned out great players over it's history and will again...
At least the women played their SFs in Miami. As for ATP...EPIC FACEPALM!
Nishikori and Berdych are our honorary guests. Berdych needs his manhood card revoked. It's one thing to pull out "sick" at an ATP 250 event, but at an ATP 1000 SF?
I'm waiting for that Open Letter from ChrisAmerica regarding how Maria needs to focus on tennis and not her business interest.
But that will never be a give.
Can you remember all the flack the WTA got in IW last year when Azarenka/Stosur both pulled out of their QF matches, meaning no tennis that day?
Journalists and WTA bashers were ferocious in their derision/critiquw of the WTA, yet men pull out of the SF and this will get blown over, no doubt.
Double standards people, double standards, don't forget.
@PatrickMcEnroe · 15 Mar 2013
Maybe some other players should realize that Federer is out there for the FANS even tough he is not 100% physically. Chances?
@DamoSpin · 15 Mar 2013
Fed battles thru injury on a day two women's matches were won by walkover. Tells you all you need to know about the two tours.
Jon Wertheim @jon_wertheim · 15 Mar 2013
I'll join @patrickmcenroe and play ogre: Federer limps around court while ticker reminds us two other dinged up top players simply withdraw.
she wasn't though. if anything she(henin) benefitted fom a weak serena- she is 6-8 against serena, and she could question at least 4 of them- the 03 hand incident, the serena injuries during the 07 french,wimbly and us). take those away and it's 2-8 and henin retired twice. if she didn't she might be down 10-15 or something like that. copare that to serena vs henin.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
If you're trying to take matches away from Henin because Serena was "weak" than I don't see why you shouldn't do the same for Serena. Neither truly faced each other at their best.
Serena got 2 wins from what everyone can agree was the best Henin (2003-2007) and Henin got 3 wins from what everyone can agree was one of the best Serena's (2002-2003)
No, you will never see that.
How the hell does Pennetta manage to lose to Kimiko Date?
1 of those wins henin cheated. and them not facing each other at their best has more to do with henin retiring twice not serena. but this takes focus from my main point that venus is her greatest rival.
If Jankovic would have retired a few years ago, she would have had the best head to head against Serena. I bet Serena is happy she's having a chance to correct that situation! She probably wishes all her peers would come back from retirement as much as her detractors do
Do you agree with Serena (and TERRASTAR18 ) that her greatest rival is Venus?
Well...they played a lot more matches and Venus has 1 more win over her than Henin. Also, Serena spent her whole childhood and young adulthood both trying to be and beat Venus. And peak Venus was definitely a force. Now, who Serena hate to lose to more? Has to be Henin, so for tension it would be her. I think Serena probably thinks she would regularly beat Henin nowadays and that she would no longer be a problem (whether it's true or not). She may know that the same is true for Venus, but she would probably be uncomfortable with that thought and try not to go there. Also, she loves and respects Venus and probably is only willing to acknowledge vulnerability to her.
True; it was an unusual position to be in facing someone so close who was the first consideration, or seen as the sister who would be the most successful (early on).
...or Capriati. That was theater.
Interesting. Considering Venus and her health problems, Serena defeating her would just seem incorrect on many levels.
Sloane Stephens is not a professional tennis player.
Meaning--you think she does not behave like one? Or lacks the ability to be considered a pro tennis player?
She is similar to tomic in that she has the talent but her attitude is crap and she doesn't even give effort.
I assume that you are watching the Stephens vs Svitolina match. Sloane's kiss of death was her win against Serena. She is a good tennis player with a lot of talent but that is it. Nothing more.
I don't think that she has reached Tomic level yet. I think that she was led to believe by the media and others that she is better than she is. When I watch her play I see the talent but it comes in spurts that are not sustained. That is not unlike the vast majority of players in the WTA. There are only a handful of women who can bring it time and time again.
I think that she showed effort in this match. It's just that Svitolina was the better competitor.
Another early round loss for Stephens... Anyone hazard a guess as to what her year ending ranking will be?
Agreed. Her win against Serena did more harm than good. Her subsequent comments about Serena alienated her from people who would normally like to see her be successful and she came across as a bit psycho.
Also, getting on Serena's bad side doesn't seem like the best career move. Ask Maria Sharapova, LOL.
Also, I imagine for a time Sloane believed that she was better than she is and that rising in the ranks and winning big tournaments would be "easy" like her "easy win" over Serena.
Maybe the users here should start a 'betting'* pool on Stephens' year end ranking..
* I'm just kidding..
I'm thinking somewhere between #25-35. She relies too much on points from the slams. She might freefall for all we know.
Vania King putting up a good fight against German darling Sabine Lisicki.
Oops, this comment should be in the "What's right with her" thread...
She really doesn't have much to defend, though...4th round FO, QF W, 4th round USO, no deep runs at the small tournaments. Her ranking is still good enough to get her seeded, so that's helpful to her cause. Hard to say where she'll end up....
Ivanovic might get off the list finally. Granted Monterrey was a final she should have won anyway. 2 titles this year though.
From Vaidisova's IG today (her bro taking pic).
She is a darling, please do not take her off the list.
At least give her parole. 2 tournaments and a victory over the #1 player is already a good year for her and it's only April. Granted they weren't big tournaments, but I really don't see her as ever winning another slam. Premiers would be a great result for her, IMO.
...well no one brought it up yet and it seems like it needs to at least be said for the record. Sloane lost in the first round at Bogata to the world number 129 (and not a young upstart or former top player coming back from injury). Her opponent was Columbian, so the the home crowd must have been super happy. I guess that's a positive takeaway....
I really do wonder what's wrong with her...injury? Boy trouble? It seems like more than media and the stress of success/failure. She has had some really bad results of late.
Wozzi seems to be enjoying herself at the Masters, pink/red hair and all.
Rory (muttering between lips): " What the f**k have you done to yourself Caroline?"
Caroline: "Well you said I need to change a few things up if I want to win a Major!"
What do you know it, it was great to see Belinda have a great run in Charleston last week and crack the top 100. I knew she'd do it this season but not this quick. I'm thinking maybe top 50 for the year-end now?
Shame she doesn't seem to be playing any tournaments in the near future.
Also, we should be getting info on Konjuh's comeback soon.
This doesn't fall under a WWWH umbrella, but I figured only people in here will know this player and if I start a thread for it, it will get trolled. Anna Tatishvili just (very gleefully) announced her American citizenship. Congrats to her. She's currently ranked 102, and I don't know if she'll keep playing for Georgia or switch to USA. I had never heard of her and then saw her play an awesome match against Kirilenko last summer. All the guys that came to ogle Makiri actually got excited over the match. I was all pumped up about her, but it seems I caught her on her one good day. None the less it was a really good day and I'll always have a soft spot for her because of it. Now I'll have two, I guess.
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