The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread

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  1. soyizgood

    soyizgood G.O.A.T.

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    Clijsters pulled out her choker card again, I see. Maybe it was up for renewal. Congrats to Li.

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    This AO is wide open.
     
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    It was like Petrova match all over again, but it to me, it wasn't surprising that ball spraying rather how he choked 5-0 lead against total underdog in the finals.
     
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    Groth beat Mattek-Sands. Bethanie had a great chance to snag a title. Oh well...
     
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    Jarmila Groth For AO.
    Don't you dare Underhand...
     
  5. Underhand

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    Dare what? Say that she's a mental midget ball basher? Oops...
     
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  7. soyizgood

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    Dulko vs Wozniacki should be a supreme borefest. Headcase junker vs pusher extraordinare. Dulko did beat Azarenka at FO 1st round last year, so who knows?
     
  8. [Z]engin

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    I lost all hope in the WTA.

    It's a good thing that Henin and Clijsters came back, it would have been amazingly boring to watch Serena win one slam after another, not just because she's THAT good, but simply because the competition is weak like hell.

    All I want now is to get Henin back to her best form.
     
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    A guy on another site I hang out on thinks she'll beat Y. Wickmeyer. I love Justine H but I don't think she's going to win.:neutral:
     
  10. soyizgood

    soyizgood G.O.A.T.

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    Serena hasn't done the tour much for favors of late either. Look at 2009 for example.

    Safina and Serena held the top 2 spots after the AO that year and kept the spots through the YEC. The number of times Serena and Safina met again after that AO final: 0. I have never seen anything like that before. Both players took turns stinking things up during the year.

    Safina did nothing for the early hardcourt season while Serena lost the Miami final. Safina then won events during clay season while Serena went 0-3 on clay before the French. Safina pulled a major collapse while Serena met her QF quota. Grass season came with Serena winning Wimby while Safina was slaughtered by Venus in the SF.

    Then the summer hardcourt season came. Safina was the USO series champ in 2008, but achieved nothing other than lost the Cincy final to Jankovic. Serena did little to nothing leading up to the USO. At the USO, OMG. Safina choked 3 match points to Kvitova in the 3rd round while Serena pulled the infamous tirade in the SF.

    Both ladies stank it up during the fall hardcourt season. The YEC was a ho-hum affair with Serena sleep-walking her way to that title.

    If Federer and Nadal did that type of stuff they'd be lucky to hold on to the top 10. It wouldn't be bad if the WTA had several consistent players in positiong to win the big events. But these days you see a draw for Premier 5/Mandatory and the majors, you might as well pick a name randomly among the top 20. Not so much because of their skills, but rather their unpredictability and volatility factors.
     
  11. [Z]engin

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    Well,

    Serena doesn't play a lot of tournaments and the rest isn't consistent. A player like Safina who has like the worst serve I've ever seen can be no. 1 says a lot about the level of the WTA.

    I'm really glad that Henin and Clijsters are back, now we need some new talent that can step up their game, but I don't see that happening in the near future.
     
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    It's kind of a crapshoot to figure out the next wave of talent. I hear names like Robson, Stephens, Watson, Mladenovic, Pervak, Shishkina pop-up. Not high on de Brito. You have a glut of 19-22yr olds like Radwanska, Azarenka, Makarova, Wickmayer, Kirilenko, Kvitova, Pavlyuchenkova, Kleybanova, Vandeweghe, Oudin, that have a few moments but are likely to bomb out at any given moment.

    It's a mess any way you look at it. From the WTA's perspective, there's no one ready to be the new face of the tour. Serena (31 in 2012), Venus (32), Clijsters (29), Henin (30) are likely gone after 2012. Skeptical about Wozniacki adding elements to her game. None of the Russians have their stuff together. Li and Zheng will be near 30 by 2012 with no promising Chinese star player in the pipeline and ditto for Italy. USA will need time to get another star as Stephens/Vandeweghe/Oudin aren't ready for primetime and not sure they will ever be. If Rezai and Bartoli are the best France can muster (Mladenovic can't seem to stay healthy nor keep the ball in at times), God help them. Margaret Court won't have to worry about her slams record anytime soon.
     
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    Kulikova d. Hantuchova after 3 and half hours. Dani had her chances but could not pull it off.
     
  14. Doublebounce

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    Mirza chokes against Justine, was the better player in the first set and a half. it was her match to win but chose to let justine back into it and take control
     
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    Not really a choke, she was playing high risk tennis and was bound to level off eventually.
     
  16. [Z]engin

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    She carried all that extra weight, it wasn't fair. :oops:
     
  17. bluetrain4

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    I'd agree with that. That's classic Mirza. She's a great, great shotmaker, but against a player of Henin's caliber, she just can't keep it up.

    In fact, I'm surprised once Henin turned around the 1-3 deficit in the first set, Mirza still won the set. And, the second set was closer than the 6-3 score suggests. Key game was Mirza at 2-2 had some points to go 3-2 and didn't. Does it surprise anyone that she faded away in the third. Huge hitter and the opponent is getting more and more balls back, legs aren't what they were and positioning for those big shots isn't as great.

    Don't think it was a choke. She really wasn't far enough ahead to choke, and the loose shots she played are the sort of loose shots she makes all the time. That's her game.

    It was a fun match to watch. I hope Mirza can get back up to the Top 50. Clearly, with her high risk game she has a ceiling, but now that she's healthy she can clearly be much better than her current ranking (she was, after all, ranked 27 at one time).

    Almost a disaster for Justine, but turned into maybe the perfect first round match. Justine faced a ton of power like she will against a lot of women, and she had to hit a ton of balls. She should be really grooved now.

    I found it fascinating seeing how Justine adjusts to these big hitters. It shows you the size disadvantage and how it manifests itself. Clearly Justine is good enough to usually get through it, but she really struggles at times. Of course, her forehand is now so hit-or-miss and her serve goes through patches of being pure garbage. If she can get that straightened out, she should be able to win matches more comfortably.

    I think Mirza should have hot to Henin's forehand more.
     
  18. soyizgood

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    Rezai flames out. Madrid '10 is as good as it gets for her.
     
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    looking forward to watching ivanovic play...lololol
     
  20. scotus

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    I consider Mirza one of the hardest hitters on WTA.

    In fact, I saw her in person, right after an exhibition match between Johnny Mac and Jim Courier.

    Mirza seemed to hit harder than both men (Jim wasn't hitting very hard against Mac).

    At any rate, even though Serena, Venus, Sharapova and Clijsters are all power hitters, in terms of pure MPH on groundstrokes, I think some of the younger players hit harder. The ones that come to mind are Azarenka, Wickemayer, Rezai, and I would put Mirza right up there.
     
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    It was interesting watching the expressions of Mirza. In the first set, you could see the look of confidence and determination, but as soon as things starting going South in the 2nd set her expression completely changed. You could just see see on her face from that point on she didn't believe she could win the match.
     
  22. Spin Doctor

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    Did anyone catch Brad Gilbert interviewing Wozniacki? This girl does not appear to have two brain cells to rub together. She said she doesn't even look at the draw nor does she think changing rackets will impact her game. WTF? There was also some other dunderhead thing she said that I can't recall right now. Even Brad seemed incredulous.

    No wonder she's so happy all the time. Its easy to be happy when you don't bother having any deep thoughts about anything. She just seems totally empty-headed. Not looking forward to her being #1 for any period of time if it means having to hear these kinds of interviews.
     
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    Cornet trashed Vandeweghe 6-2 6-1. USA needs a plan C for finding the next great hope.
     
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    I see Makarova had a 14-21 record in 2010, yet she somehow snatched a Premier event in the process. Yikes!
     
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    She won Eastbourne as a qualifier without dropping a set, defeating 5 top 20 players (Pennetta, Petrova, Kuznetsova, Stosur, Azarenka).
     
  27. scotus

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    Didn't this girl get into Yale University?
     
  28. Spin Doctor

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    Whaaat? I believe she mentioned wanting to go there, I guess somehow implying that she would actually be able to get in scholastically which seems doubtful. Its like students saying they're "pre-med":roll: They're really just regular undergrads but saying you're "pre-med" just sounds so much better.

    I seriously doubt she has the smarts to get into any Ivy League but I guess being the #1 tennis player in the world will probably get you into any university.

    I could be wrong. Maybe she just sounds dumb and is actually very smart.
     
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    HA, HA, HA, HA! Too funny. Don't worry, I don't think she will be number 1 for much longer.
     
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    Before her US Open match against Vera Z., she practiced with Djokovic using tennis ball's that were used for the men's event. I thought that was quite crazy.
     
  31. soyizgood

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    Makarova takes the 2nd set. Going to a 3rd.
     
  32. courtking

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    what's wrong with Safina?? she's painfully to watch.. If I were her, I would retire for a few years then come back.. can't believe she was a former world #1 in 2009
     
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    Glad I did not watch the Safina match. I'll put her on the R.I.P. list at some point.
     
  34. bezs

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    R.I.P list :lol: She should get platinum membership before that.
     
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    Safina and Ivanović should retire ASAP. There are too much dumb mental midget ball bashers in the Women's Drama Association already.
     
  36. amaze

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    Ivanovic wasn't even playing bad. She just got outplayed. Well, it happens.
     
  37. Wolland

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    Poor Safina! That match will destroy what's left of her.
     
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    Really enjoyed the Molik/Vinci match last night.

    With her serve and shot variety, I can't help but wonder how good Alicia Molik could have been if it wasn't for that long bout of illness and injuries which took most of her prime years.
     
  39. vandre

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    +1. very sad. even clijsters felt bad for her! :(
     
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    Well, let's look on the bright side.

    She looks fit, as her muffin top seems to have improved.

    The blonde hair is a nice touch.

    The new service motion is yielding better results.

    Her biggest problem is that she is a nervous ball of slow-twitch muscles. I don't know what can be done for that other than performance enhancing drugs.
     
  41. lonux

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    I just saw Radwanska's racquet got blown away! LOL!
     
  42. sureshs

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    Have you been #1 in anything?
     
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    That's not addressing the statement.
     
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    Safina was a fraud as a #1 and continues to prove she was never part of the elite class of the sport. Considering her rapid dowslide over 2010, and now the incredibly poor start to this year's majors, she should retire now. No one on earth would think she will eventually win a major.
     
  45. 8F93W5

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    Her problem is mental and is fixable. I think Marat could help her.

    I say she should not retire as long as she gets direct entry in tournaments. Got to earn & save that money while she's young.
     
  46. sureshs

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    No, it is not. It is only pointing out how ridiculous people can look when they are their only aim is to find fault in others.
     
  47. FuriousYellow

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    Even if they did, there would be more two more to step in and take their place.
     
  48. Wolland

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    I wouldn't go that far. She reached that top spot fair and square. She had some nice wins, and also won a couple of very important tournaments. If I'm not mistaken, she played in three grand slam finals. However, when she got to that no. 1 spot, she succumbed to pressure. She just couldn't handle the expectations, plus the injuries, and Safina got where she is today.
     
  49. Wolland

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    For me, Marat would be the last person whom I would ask advice as to how to improve the mental aspect of the game :)
     
  50. Underhand

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    I'm afraid you're right. Current junior girls are just the same ball bashers. Tennis parents and coaches just want results fast with big babe "tennis".
     

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