The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread

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  1. boredone3456

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    She may not be the most relevant now but based on her results but she has 2 slams (5th most among active players), another 2 finals...finished 5 of the last 7 years in the top 10, and since winning her first slam in 2004 has been in 25 tournament finals. Sure her record in them well, stinks, but if she isn't relevant top player then who is apart from Kim, Serena and well...recently...ummm...Kim and Serena? Shes not the most consistent but since she has won 2 majors I think we should have higher expectations of her then someone like Kvitova at this point. Nothing against Kvitova she has a lot of potential but still....
     
  2. soyizgood

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    Am I reading this right? Dinara has 14 DFs so far?? And is winning??
     
  3. Bhagi Katbamna

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    It is painful to watch this match. Like a trainwreck in that if you look away for a second, some other disaster will go by and you will miss seeing it.
     
  4. soyizgood

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    Safina DFs on break point. 15 DFs, I think. And we're only in the 2nd set... :( Safina up 4-3 in the 2nd set.
     
  5. soyizgood

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    Safina's serve is an atrocity, once again. 16 DFs... in 2 sets?!?! And to think she won... Stosur likes being on the list, I guess.
     
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    Ivanovic spanks Jelena, lookin good so far at IW. nice to so her bounce back from the aussie open devistating loss
     
  7. NadalAgassi

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    Often I wonder how she has won 2 slams though. She has the talent to win 4 or 5, but as she has underachieved it doesnt really feel like she has been a big enough force in the womens game at any point to deserve 2 slams only halfway through her career. If she ends up with 3 or 4 without being more consistent and more of a force than she has been thus far it would seem like she really lucked out. Now if she starts being more consistent and coming up with more big wins like she could then that is another story.

    I dont even feel like she has really been any better a player than Dementieva who retired with 0. More talented for sure, but she hasnt actually played better most of the time.
     
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    Another website I hang out on had an icon which showed one smiley face hitting another with a large hammer (they don't have it anymore)-that's how I feel about my Svetlana.:(
     
  9. hugobosstachini

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    Ana goes 7-3 over Jelena and demonstrates what talent gap there is between these 2.

    Hopefully Ana is completely back... in this weak era she could do plenty damages.

    Maybe my first statement was too strong but I see Kuzzie like a good top 10 player a little like Radwanska - Jankovic or Safina were but to me she's definitively not an elite in the sense of Maria, Serena or Clijsters when they play their best...
     
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    First time I saw Rezai play was against Masha a couple of days ago.

    Yikes!! :shock: She really is the poster girl for BBB (Brainless Ball Bashing). She's like the female Gulbis.
     
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    What happened to Kim? She retired in the middle of the second set against Bartoli.
     
  12. soyizgood

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    Rezai's rank will take a massive dump after Madrid's points fall off.

    Biggest BBB's off the top of my head (no time to list them all):
    Kuznetsova
    Wickmayer
    Sharapova
    Rezai
    Li
    Kvitova
    Mirza
    Pavlyuchenkova
    Ivanovic
    Hantuchova
     
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    She was up a set right? So it must be serious.
     
  14. hugobosstachini

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    Kim has shoulder problems... if she happens to miss the clay for a second time in a row... the tour will be dead. :( Unless if Ana and Maria keeps the actual goods in IW and better for the future.
     
  15. bezs

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    Remember reading she said she had been taking painkillers since the Aus for the shoulder or something like that and said it had been affecting her at IW.

    Ana played really well against JJ thought she was going to crumble but played like she was enjoying her tennis.
     
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  16. soyizgood

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    R.I.P. Safina.....
     
  17. hugobosstachini

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    He he... freaking vintage Pova is back... 2 & 0 and beyond the score these are the exact same types of convincing shots she was hitting when she was a persistent top 5 in the game... I'm still doubting her serve though...

    If Pova plays near peak for the rest of the year in this very weak era I can definitively imagine a Raf WTA scenario : Maria holding 3 of the 4 majors... :D

    Ha, ha, this is delusional but it's so long I haven't been able to boast Maria... she's great and hopefully she ends that Woz-Vera 2nd league domination.
     
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  18. jones101

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    She at least won 3 matches in a row (beating a top 10 player) this week and won a title last week. She is turning the tide slowly but surely.

    Her CC season will be interesting to say the least. Can she be top 50 post RG? I think so.
     
  19. NLBwell

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    Sharapova was hitting clean winners off the serve return when Safina was hitting serves over 100mph and decently placed. Maybe the old Sharapova is coming back.
    Safina didn't play that badly against Sharapova. Too many balls in the middle of the court, but it was difficult because Sharapova was attacking so well right off the serve or serve return - making Safina move, which isn't her strength of course.
    Here's hoping they both have good years and a hope for some excellent new blood on the WTA tour.
    How about a premature prediction with no evidence to back it up: Safina for U.S. Open Champion.
     
  20. jerriy

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    Wickmayer toyed with a player who's about to enter the top ten (Shahar Peer) like a cat plays with a mouse
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  21. soyizgood

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  22. NLBwell

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    Well, I was thinking that the French was really most likely, but that it would probably take longer than that to get her game completely back.
     
  23. hugobosstachini

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    Nervous Ana looses a very winnable match... she was panicking all over the place... :(
     
  24. soyizgood

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    Safina is SLOOOOW. Slower than she was in 2008-9. If she was moving slow on a medium speed HC like Indian Wells, I'd hate to imagine her movement at the USO or Cincinnati. She did well to win three matches, but the old Safina would have been too stubborn to allow Sharapova to beat her down like that.

    For girls like Stosur, Petrova, Safina (all of them slow-footed) the FO is the ONLY major they'd have a shot at.
     
  25. bluetrain4

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    I actually think the WTA tour needs the old Sharapova, who although had a pretty unimaginative game, was a real presence. Still hate the shrieking, but I always appreciate that she's a game competitor.
     
  26. onyxrose81

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    Sharapova, for all her faults, at least wants it all the time. She's not a headcase like the rest of the WTA but rather it's her injuries that have gotten the best of her. The tour needs her and Ana to be doing well consistently.
     
  27. NadalAgassi

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    Has Safina even back at her best ever beaten a player of Sharapova's level on hard courts? OK Clijsters in her first tournament back from a long retirement, anyone else. Even when she reached #1 her only big wins that I recall were on clay.

    I agree that the only slam Safina could ever hope to win even if she returns to her best ever level is the French Open. No way she could ever win a hard court slam, there are too many players better than her on hard courts.
     
  28. Wozupniacki

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    Azarenka should have a section for both "What's wrong with her mind?" and "What's wrong with her body?". Besides her famous meltdown she gets SO many injuries it can't be just bad luck. Bad fitness and bad movement must be huge factors.
     
  29. hugobosstachini

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    Vika retires 0-3 injury... what a surprise !! :( She gets hurt sooo easily I swear this is ridiculous and not unluckiness anymore... this is clearly an enormous lack of physical training... this part of her game has drastically gone down hill since 2009.

    EDIT : Wozupniacki I swear I didn't read/copy your post... :D

    People can don't like Maria's game but no one can throw stones at her in terms of competitivity, fight, will... the only player she often melts to is Serena Williams... a shame.
     
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  30. Wozupniacki

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    Great minds think alike! 8)
     
  31. jerriy

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    Agreed. There is a theme developing here with Azarenka and her so called "retirements"

    Anyways... all this makes things a lotta easier for Wozniacki.

    Cuz I was suspecting that this clash with Azarenka was gonna take it's toll on whoever wins it (making the person vulnerable to Pova/Peng in the semis)

    But now it looks like Woz is with one foot in the final cuz she'll be fresh as a daisy in the semi
     
  32. soyizgood

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    Azarenka retires way too much for a professional player, let alone top 10. I'm getting sick and tired of it. This close to dumping Vika as a fave. Azarenka, Cibulkova, and Bartoli are the queens of retirements on the tour, but Vika is taking this to a new level. 7 retirements in the last 12 months???
     
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    Pova/Peng 3rd set has had 4 consecutive breaks to start the 3rd with only ONE point won on serve so far.

    Abysmal.
     
  34. jerriy

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    ^ The crowd was enthusiastic more by the NBA style "kiss cam" gimmick than by the tennis between Pova and Peng
     
  35. Doublebounce

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    Dulko quietly loses to vesnina 1 and 3.
     
  36. soyizgood

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    Both girls are mental midgets. You never know what you'll get from them.

    Safina moves on to round 2 to face Vera. Talk about testing my loyalties..
     
  37. bezs

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    Peer losing in straight sets to Medina Garrigues :|
     
  38. boredone3456

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    umm wow. Peer, I don't even know what to say about her. I have said, along with others, that she could and maybe should be a top 10 player because sometimes she looks great, and then well, this. Medina Garrigues used to be top 20 but like, she was never much to write home about.
     
  39. soyizgood

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    Peer deserves a face palm. She almost made it to the top 10 last week. Now this? Girl drinks the same headcase punch as the rest of the tour. Maybe it's kosher for all I know.

    AMG disappeared last year. Not doing much this year either. I guess there will be plenty more surprises in Miami.
     
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    Petrova retired down 3-1 in the 3rd against Lisicki. Good to see Sabine back.
     
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    Petrova should retire from singles and stick to doubles.
     
  42. boredone3456

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    I hate to say this but I am sort of inclined to agree. I have rooted for her for so long but she is my new Dementieva, I want her to win a major yet I know she is likely never going to, although in her case its mainly due to her erratic emotions than an aspect of her technical game.
     
  43. soyizgood

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    ^^^ That and she's been plagued with injuries. She's a big-boned girl that still thinks she can bash at her heart's desire from the baseline. Her movement is not that good and yes her mood swings often doom her. A waste of talent.
     
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    Lepchenko (?) is the last American in Miami, and it's only Thursday. This makes me wonder WTH is going on w/ developing women's players for the US.

    Oudin seems to be destined to be a remedial top 50 player at best. Mattek shows flashes but doesn't seem to be anything more than a top 30 player at best. There are a few youngsters out there (Stephens, Vandeweghe) but none of them at this point stand out as possible top 10 contenders. I was impressed w/ Stephens watching her last yr at IW against Zvonareva, but she seems to be in neutral. Is US women's tennis destined for a dark period once the WS retire?
     
  45. boredone3456

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    Womens Tennis in the US has been at a standstill development wise for a long time. I just don't think it was as noticeable when we had both the Williams, Davenport, Capriati, Seles and even Rubin and Raymond to a degree around to some in the game in the top 20. Now that all of them are gone/near retirement (Venus will retire by end of next year if not sooner I think..and Serena given her recent health scare, who knows?) its being pointed out more. Apart from Harkleroad, in recent years I haven't seen a young American I can really look at as someone who might be a threat:

    Oudin- been a flop since the US Open run and her game isn't moving forward at all.

    Coco- Well I have been hearing her name for a while now and if she is gonna be something I hope she starts showing some small flashes of it now because she hasn't been.

    Stephens- Like you said JBL good match with Zvonareva..since then...well, nothing really.

    There really is no one else. I've heard more about the Pliskova sisters then any of the American up and comers lately...although I think it was bound to happen sadly. We just can't get young girls to develop.
     
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    Oudin just lacks weapons. She's got good movement, but not much else. Serve is suspect, her forehand is iffy, and her backhand is mostly a rallyball shot.

    Stephens is still developing. IMO she's got more upswing than McHale or Vandeweghe. If she had Venus or Serena, the girls she idolizes, mentoring her she can make some noise.

    Vandeweghe is a poor Davenport clone and even has much of Davenport's old trainers on her staff. She doesn't hustle that well, her strokes seem a bit unorthodox (long forehand takeback), and she has not made any real noise to justify the hype other than a few wins. Davenport at her age was already lurking in and around the top 10.

    Haven't seen Lepchenko play. Ditto for McHale. It's not looking good for US in either the up and coming Men's or Women's sides. Harrison might prove me wrong, though.
     
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    At least in the men's game you still have Roddick as a top 10 stalwart, Isner who's exceeded expectations and seems to be a solid top 20 player, and Querrey, who even though he's a mental flake, has top 10 upside if he just puts it together. And Harrison shows potential to be a top 20 player, possibly top 10.

    But the women's side doesn't even have a decent top 30 player outside of the WS.
     
  48. Wozupniacki

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    Li Na loses to Johanna Larsson! That's five losses in a row!
     
  49. soyizgood

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    Li is going back on the list... WAKE UP NA!
    Rezai is just lame, but Peng has been playing well of late.
    WTF Wickmayer lost to Vesnina??
     
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  50. bluetrain4

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    Li's always inconsistent but this is ridiculous. She's probably putting too much pressure on herself post AO, or she's not really focused. Her best results have come at a later age than most, but she's not THAT old. She still has good years left if she wants them.
     

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