***The Wilson Six.One Team Club***

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  1. Hornet83

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    Looks like there is a club for every racquet out there.

    I demoed the blx 6.1 team about 2 months ago and got a pair of them, it does everything great for me (with the exception maybe of returning first serves)

    Would like to know about your string setups, customization, pictures, comments, etc

    I have no lead tape on so far, both are a bit over the stated weight, strung and with wilson pro overgrip they weight 310 and 313g.

    BTW I really like the base grip on this version, it's almost as firm as a leather grip.

    I have only used dunlop black widow 16g so far, started with 58lbs but was a bit underpowered, they are both strung @ 52lbs now wich is much better, they should break in a couple of weeks and will try 50.

    I'm a small guy, 1,75m, 67kg, I practice 3 hours 4 days a week, I had epicondylitis for using a heavier racquet (pure storm tour), the team feels comfortable and light through the entire practice.

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    I'd like to join your club.

    I recently bought two of the non-2012 6.1 teams. I moved down from the BLX Blade 98 (which I loved) because it was a tad to heavy for me. I'm also just coming out of a shoulder injury so wanted something similar in make and feel, but light enough that I could customise and experiment over time.

    I'm no expert in racquet specs but I had the opportunity to take my scales in and weigh all five units to pick two which weighed the same. I've since leaded them up taking them from a strung 306g to 320g.

    I added 9 grams along the bottom 2/3 of the handle, and 5 grams in the hoop: one from 9-11/1-3, the other 7-9, 5-3. They swing *much* faster than the Blade, even with the lead (the blade clocked in at 342g with 2x overgrips, some cardboard under the overgrip to help with bevel feel, and dampener).

    I use a Yonex Supergrap overgrip over the stock grip, with lead tape on the main bevels and some thin cardboard on the smaller bevels so I can still feel them through the overgrip. I though about using leather grips and overgrips to achieve a similar thing but I'll wait and see if the need arises.

    I had mine strung with Wilson Sensation 17, one at 50lbs and one at 54lbs, just test the difference. So far only played with the 50, and it feels a bit trampoliney. One of the main reasons I bought two identical frames was so I could objectively test string variations reliably.

    In reality, this purchase is my 'good enough' racquet setup; something I can hopefully enjoy for years without needing to try different frames to find that 'perfect' one for my game which is still developing. I will experiment with different string tensions and other multis because I'm a tinkerer, but I like the team so far and expect to be happy with it.

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    Lead tape camouflage :)
     
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  3. Hornet83

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    That is some awesome camouflage there :), and very crafty work with the cardboard on the handle too, good job.

    So far I plan to use mine stock but if I find the need for a bit more weight I would go with something similar to your setup, maybe a leather grip and some counter balance at 10 and 2.

    Cheers
     
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  4. bkpr

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    Thanks! (re camo)

    There's another thread where someone tests several polarised/non-polarised setups with lead. It's a good read to get a sense of what different lead placements an do to the feel I the racquet. I learned a lot from that thread.

    It's great we have two of the same frames to be able to experiment with lead tape, strings, grips etc.
     
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  5. Torres

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    Very good!
     
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  6. YesTennis

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    Did you use a permanent marker like a Sharpie for the camo?
     
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  7. bkpr

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    Yep. Sharpie for black, and Artline marker for the red. Just what I had lying around.
     
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  8. isilra

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    Write my name too. I have both 2012 and the previous version and i like the previous one better due to its low swingweight and feeling. For the best performance, i use rpm blast at 25 tension.
     
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    Sign me up... read my sig.
     
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  10. Hornet83

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    All very welcome.

    I read that the 2012 team had larger grommet holes that enlarge the sweet spot or something, I had one in my hand but it was the 18x20 (the only available at the store) the grommet holes look to be the same as in the previous version.

    Anyone can confirm if those grommets are on the 16x18 only?

    Would be great to see a tw review on this racquet, I think it's a great stick but it stays a bit under the radar compared to the rest of the six.one line.

    Cheers
     
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    Sign me up as well.
     
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  13. bkpr

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    Although I know two sessions isn't very many, I had my second proper hit with the non-2012 6.1 Team and I loved it (54lbs version)! I felt I shanked fewer balls compared to the Blade 98 too, but I expect this is less from the size of the head and more from being able to get the 6.1T into position more quickly.

    As an aside, I laid the hoop of the 6.1T on the Blade 98 and found them almost identical in shape, with the Blade 98 being a bit wider at around 10-11 and 1-2 o'clock positions. When compared side-to-side the 6.1T looked tapered at the top, and even a little dainty :)
     
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  14. YesTennis

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    For those using the 2012 model with the open string pattern, would appreciate your thoughts on how it plays. Is anyone using it in stock form, what is your playing level( is this a 3.5/4.0 racquet), how it compares to other racquets you've played with, etc.... Thanks in advance.
     
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  15. Hornet83

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    From what I've read the 16x18 is a bit more forgiving and more powerfull than the 18x20 but up to a certain point they should play similar. I can only say about the 2010 blx 18x20, it is low powered and demands good technique and fast strokes it is not a beginners racquet.

    Cheers
     
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  16. snoopy

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    Can anyone compare it to the PS 6.1 95?
     
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  17. unrender

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    I demoed out the PS 6.1 95, 6.1 95, and 6.1 Team. I like the team > 6.1 95
    > PS. It was a real toss up between 6.1 95 and 6.1 team, but I like the weight on 6.1 team better.
     
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  18. Yinger

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    really enjoyed this racquet... unfortunately, it killed my arm and had to put it on the shelf.
     
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  19. EZRA

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    Been playing with the 6.1 mold since 1991 when I was a ranked junior player in a different country (Pro Staff Classic 6.1) ... 6 yrs ago, for a few months I switched to Yonex RDS 002 midplus only to go back to the trusty `ol 6.1 ... I think I'm never gonna switch to a different racquet ever.... except when I'm to old to pick up a 12 oz. racquet and opt instead for a frying pan power mallet.
     
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  20. sunof tennis

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    I personally like the PS 6.1 better. It is about 1/2 oz heavier and closer to my target weight zone. Something about the box beam just feels right. I think the Team may have more instrinsice pop but I got more control with the PS 95
     
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  21. mpournaras

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    I have 2 k six-one teams. Add me :)

    The BLX dropped way too much swingweight it felt like. The 2012 with the open pattern sounds really nice. If they had 16x18 on the K six-one team it would be perfect.

    K factor forever!!!!
     
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  22. mpournaras

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    I should add that I applied 4 6 inch strips of 1/4 inch lead on the bezels in the handle. (for a little more headlight balance) and then 2 3.5 inch strips on each side at 3 & 9 on the head. Six one team with a bit of lead is so fraking plush and powerful.

    Will add leather grips soon i suppose
     
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  23. Torres

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    You mean the 2012 6.1 BLX 95 Team? Otherwise, the tag "2012 BLX" covers about 15 different racquets in the Wilson range... :)

    One thing the review doesn't mention - and its a bit of an oversight in my view as it would sort out the low SW / ability to hit through the court issue which some of them are concerned about - is how well this racquet takes lead.

    2 or 3 grams at 3/9 and/or 2/10 makes with an 5g overgrip makes all the difference. All for less than $5 for a pack of lead tape....

    Another thing to look out for with this racquet is that there is ALOT of weight variance from the factory. So if you want a heavier/lighter/middling one, simply ask TW to find you one when ordering.

    Also another review, this time from the SW guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g__uMWx8dic&feature=related

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    I RDC'd three of the 2011 BLX 95 6.1 Teams (18x20) last year as the basis for seeing whether they could be turned in to lighter versions of the 6.1 95 (the c350g version). It wasn't possible but the racquets were fun to play with.

    All the racquets were strung with the same string, had the same overgrips on them, and a very, very small amount of lead just above and below the PWS. The 'stock' racquet is without the lead. Racquet 2 felt heavier and more cumbersome than the other two and didn't feel as whippy, which isn't necessarily apparent from the RDC readings.

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  24. Hornet83

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    That is a great analysis.

    I have mine with an overgrip as the only modification, they are both above 310g and I'm happy with the current setup. They do feel solid for the weight, I would try a leather grip (with overgrip) to get a more firm feel on the bevels but I'm afraid it will change the current balance too much.

    Does anyone knows the weight of the wilson pro hybrid grip compared with the wilson leather grip?

    Cheers.
     
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  25. J.Lee42

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    Anyone know where i can pick up a pair of the older blx in 4 1/4? they seem to be rare now...
     
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  26. unrender

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    So it's my second week so far on the six.one team 2012 16x18. Day 9 today, to be exact . I've gone through 3 set of strings. The first were multi-filament @ 52 - only got 9 hours of playing time. The second and third were the beast attack hybrid, and only got 12 hours of playing time out of them.

    Is anyone else having this much trouble with the strings on this racquet?
     
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  27. Hornet83

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    If you are breaking the strings in the middle of the stringbed I can't see how the racquet would have anything to do with it, it's just a symptom of good hitting pace and spin ;)

    Cheers
     
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  28. davedomart

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    Try a syn. gut in the crosses, will last longer.
     
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  29. unrender

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    On polyester, I broke crosses. On the beast attack hybrid, I broke the main.
     
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  30. kingduo

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    Up for this Club!!!

    I also have a non 2012 Wilson BLX six one team 95 (18x20). Such a sweet racquet.
     
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  31. klementine

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    Great racquet! My specs are in the sig. Played with it stock, played with it at mid-range weight but finally settled on an unstrung weight of 325g, the same as my beloved MgPresMids.

    I've owned the nCode 95, k95 and still have a blx95(all non-team versions). Nice thing about these teams is they have a slightly thinner constant beam, way more flex (and imo therefore more feel) and of course, the 16x18 pattern in this edition.

    They come in light, about even balanced (mine was actually 1ptHH strung stock) and are perfect for finding your desired weight and balance.

    Good job Wilson! I've found exactly the feel I've been searching for. Got 2 more frames on the way. Any questions, fire away. :smile:
     
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  32. Torres

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    ^ Where did you distribute the weight?
     
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  33. klementine

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    ^At the poles.

    I replaced the mushy performance hybrid grip with the firmer Pro Hybrid grip (white one), which added 6gr to the weight. At this point the frame was 312gr strung w/o og and damp.

    I settled on 5gr at 12 o'clock and nearly an ounce of silicone inside the handle (25gr). So, a total of 36gr has been added to frame.

    Just did another round using TW's method of figuring out the swing weight (will get it on an rdc later this week) and the average sw came out to be 340.
     
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  34. snoopy

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    You must break string quite frequently.

    When I demoed the team it was super spinny.
     
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  35. klementine

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    The tools of the trade.

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    I used nickels (5gr) and dimes (2gr) to find the weight balance and how far up in the handle I had to remove the wilson foam.

    I placed the nickels/dimes on top of the handle and adjusted. Marked the spot on the og, measured and removed the foam with a thin screwdriver.

    Then before I injected the silicone, I placed a cotton ball in each chamber as to prevent the silicone from seeping into the foam.

    Here's a neat little trick for injecting this much silicone in a frame. Notice the silicone tube end. It is 1/2 inch vinyl tubing attached to the nozzle, which is then connected to thinner 1/4 inch tubing, so as to pass through the chamber of the handle more easy.

    Inject in increments and measure with the scale as you go.
     
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  36. klementine

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    The 5gr of lead at the top of the hoop (which will be hidden under the bumper when I restring) is not directly across the 12o'clock position. It feels as if wilson put quite a bit of weight at this specific location.

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    And there you go! 347gr strung, 8pts.HL and a TW-method estimated swingweight of 340. What's nice is I can match all my 6.1teams now to these exact specs. As many know wilson's QC is all over the place. I've had 6.1's that were 12.2oz, 12.4oz and 12.6oz strung. The team edition is of course softer than the regular 6.1, which a bonus for me.

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  37. klementine

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    I hit flatter and use a poly cross (alu power in this frame). The open pattern helps my flatter strokes dip more, so it works out. I have broken a full set of poly in an nCode 6.1 95, but it's not a regular occurrence for me. The sweet spot is not that open in the 16x18 95. The top half of the hoop is a different story.
     
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  38. Murray_fan1

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    Klem,

    I have tried the silicone injecting before an had issues with the silicone drying. How long does it take to set ? Is this just regular household silicone?
     
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  39. klementine

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    ^Hey man,

    This is outdoor, clear silicone. It's meant for use on windows/doors.

    And yes, you're right, it takes a long time to dry completely, due to the sheer volume. I forgot to add, that I did squirt two little pieces of silicone that morning on saran wrap. They were dry within 2 hours. I pushed those into the handle on top of the cotton balls before the injection for further protection against silicone seeping into the foam. Creating two dry walls of silicone within the handle, as the silicone directly under the buttcap dries in 2-3 hours.

    This way I can play with the frame 36-48hrs after the process and not have to worry about the silicone sliding down into the handle. The whole modification took 2 hours to complete.
     
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  40. ZeroSkid

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    The six one 95 team blx was very unstable too me, does lead tape in this racquet make it very stable or only a little
     
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  41. klementine

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    ^ I added the extra weight for plow-thru, so I could use a more relaxed swing and gain the same power potential as I had using the 6.1team stock as a result of racquet head speed.

    Racquet feels stable in stock form, then again every racquet feels stable to me.
     
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  42. ZeroSkid

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    why don't you just use the six one 95
     
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  43. klementine

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    ^3 reasons. I've owned 3 6.1-95's (still have 1)and all three have had drastic differences in static/swing weight and balance but the 3 main reasons are....

    -Slightly thinner beam
    -Much softer flex
    -The ability to match my sticks to my desired balance, swing weight and static weight
     
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  44. kingduo

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    Hi Guys...I have the blx six.one team (non 2012) This might be a very noobish question. Anyway, how can i add more power to the racquet? is it by adding lead tapes @ 12 o'clock position on the racquet? If so...any recommendation on what type/brand of lead tapes be used?
     
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  45. sunof tennis

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    Yes. Leading up your racquet can lead to a more plow through and more power. Applying lead at 12 o'clock is probably the most bang for your buck. I would also put some weight in the handle (can do this by switching to a leather grip) to make sure the racquet doesn't not become too head heavy. I just use Babolot lead tape
    Changing your strings also may increase your power.
     
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  46. ZeroSkid

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    OMG this racquet is garbage, garbage! I demoed it with good strings too, loool at this club
     
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  47. Simbah2004

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    Love the racquet, using the 16x18 but I do need a tad more weight and stability. The regular blx six-one is too heavy for me. Has anybody in this club customized it?
     
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  48. TennisNut101

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    My Six.One Team setup

    Hi, I am a very keen coach and player, I love the six one 2012, it has a very solid feel for such a light racket. As a coach I have a coaching racket and playing rackets. I added about 9g lead tape to each racket, 6 to the hack and 3 to the head.
    Coaching - strung with technifibre pro red code at approx 51 pounds, slightly looser to be able to punch the ball over with less effort
    Playing - I would use the same set up but I break strings easily so all I do is up the tension.
     
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  49. Torres

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    Interesting lead placement:

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  50. mlocke1322

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    Does anyone here know if the 6.1 team 16x18 grommets will fit on a regular 6.1 95? I have a buddy who gave me new grommets for his 6.1 95 but they are for a Team and the bumper design is clearly a bit different. Just want to know before I try fitting them in. Thanks!
     
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