The Wimbledon Draw

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  1. jamesblakefan#1

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    DEL POTRO'S QUARTER
    Juan Martin Del Potro ARG (1) v Arnaud Clement FRA
    Lleyton Hewitt AUS v Robby Ginepri USA
    Rajeev Ram USA v Philipp Petzschner GER
    Mischa Zverev GER v Dmitry Tursunov RUS (25)

    Radek Stepanek CZE (23)v Alejandro Falla COL
    Potito Starace ITA v Jose Acasuso ARG
    Fabio Fognini v Denis Istomin UZB
    Kevin Kim USA v David Ferrer ESP (16)

    Nikolay Davydendo RUS (12) v Daniel Evans GBR
    Victor Crivoi ROU v Bjorn Phau GER
    Frederico Gil POR v Paul-Henri Mathieu FRA
    Alex Bogdanovic GBR v Tomas Berdych CZE (20)

    Jurgen Melzer AUT (26) v Wayne Odesnik USA
    Benjamin Becker GER v Roko Karanusic CRO
    Grigor Dimitrov BUL v Igor Kunitsyn RUS
    Jeremy Chardy FRA v Andy Roddick USA (6)

    MURRAY'S QUARTER
    Andy Murray GBR (3) v Robert Kendrick USA
    Riccardo Ghedin ITA v Ernests Gulbis LAT
    Taylor Dent USA v Daniel Gimeno-Traver ESP
    Brian Dabul ARG v Viktor Troicki SRB (30)

    Stanislas Wawrinka SUI (19) v Eduardo Schwank ARG
    Pablo Andujar ESP v Martin Vassallo Arguello ARG
    Christophe Rochus BEL v Pablo Cuevas URU
    Jesse Levine USA v Marat Safin RUS (14)

    Fernando Gonzalez CHI (10) v Teimuraz Gabashvili RUS
    Oscar Hernandez ESP v Leonardo Mayer ARG
    Juan Carlos Ferrero ESP v Mikhail Youzhny RUS
    Fabrice Santoro FRA v Nicolas Kiefer GER (17)

    Victor Hanescu ROU (31) v Ivan Navarro ESP
    Nicolas Devilder FRA v Nicolas Lapentti ECU
    (LL)Karol Beck* v Andrei Pavel ROU
    Bobby Reynolds USA v Gilles Simon FRA (8)

    DJOKOVIC'S QUARTER
    James Blake USA (5) v Andreas Seppi ITA
    Adrian Mannarino FRA v Marc Gicquel FRA
    Paul Capdeville CHI v Vincent Spadea USA
    Evgeny Korolev RUS v Igor Andreev RUS (29)

    Tommy Haas GER (24) v Alexander Peya AUT
    Michael Llodra FRA v Joshua Goodall GBR
    Sam Querrey USA v Ivan Ljubicic CRO
    Alberto Martin ESP v Marin Cilic CRO (11)

    Tommy Robredo ESP (15) v Luka Gregorc SLO
    Edouard Roger-Vasselin FRA v Stefan Koubek AUT
    Dudi Sela ISR v Santiago Gonzalez MEX
    Xavier Malisse BEL v Rainer Schuettler GER (18)

    Mardy Fish USA (28) v Sergio Roitman ARG
    Jan Hernych CZE v Janko Tipsarevic SRB
    Simon Greul GER v Michael Yani USA
    Julien Benneteau FRA v Novak Djokovic SRB (4)

    FEDERER'S QUARTER
    Fernando Verdasco ESP (7) v James Ward GBR
    Nicolas Mahut FRA v Kristof Vliegen BEL
    Diego Junqueira ARG v Guillermo Canas ARG
    Grega Zemlja SLO v Albert Montanes ESP (32)

    Ivo Karlovic CRO (22) v Lukas Lacko SVK
    Steve Darcis BEL v Frank Dancevic CAN
    Simone Bolelli ITA v Daniel Koellerer AUT
    Andrey Golubev KAZ v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga FRA (9)

    Robin Soderling SWE (13) v Gilles Muller LUX
    Marcel Granollers ESP v Andreas Beck GER
    Nicolas Almagro ESP v Juan Monaco ARG
    (LL)Thiago Alves BRA* v Feliciano Lopez ESP (21)

    Philipp Kohlschreiber GER (27) v Florent Serra FRA
    Ivo Minar CZE v Maximo Gonzalez ARG
    Guillermo Garcia-Lopez ESP v Agustin Calleri ARG
    Yen-Hsun Lu TPE v Roger Federer SUI (2)

    *Baghdatis pulls out w/knee injury; Nadal pulls out w/ knee injury
     
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  2. MichaelChang

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    Murray got the easiest draw, hands down.
     
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    Gulbis in the 2nd isn't a cakewalk by any stretch.
     
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    Gulbis hasn't gone past the second round of any tournament this year, and now he would beat Murray? I don't see it happening.
     
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  5. MichaelChang

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    Come on, Gulbis may not even pass the 1st round. Honestly, among the top 4, Murray got the best draw.
     
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  6. Sentinel

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    Nonsense.
    He's got Dabul -- remember ???? :)
    He's got Gabashvili who was in Nadal's quarter at FO, and remember Nadal had the toughest quarter.
    He's got Lapenti who almost took out Nole. Remember !


    Nadal's got the easy quarter. He's got some chaps who were in Fed's q at RG, and Fed always gets a cakewalk. PHM, Acasuso etc.

    Federer's got Tsonga , Soderling !!! and Verdasco (again Nadal's draw last time), so officially Federer has the toughest draw.
     
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  7. Rhino

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    Wow, I can't believe Nadal might have to play Hewitt in round 2, that will be a huge match!

    I see another first round exit for Bogdanovic :)
     
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  8. viduka0101

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    wow :shock:, federer got grega zemlja in the quarters,hope he can get past him:neutral:
     
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  9. Arrows

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    Nadal/Hewitt rnd 2: potential? (considering their exho match)
    Nadal/Roddick: I hope this one happens
    Verdasco/Tsonga on grass: reads like a great match-up
    Guess there's no Soderling/Nadal rematch then, unless the former blows Federer off grass.
     
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  10. Gorecki

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    here we go again... so who is going to pull the "rigged draw" card?
     
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    Gulbis the only one besides Fed to take a set from Rafa last yr. Dent's tricky in the 3rd. GOAT Safin possibly in the 4th. And Gonzo in the QF. I'm not saying it's hard, just saying it's not a cakewalk. Not that he's gonna lose any of those matches, just he'll have to bring his game.
     
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  12. CountryHillbilly

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    If all had turned out well for Gulbis in the last year, today we'd be saying Gulbis has an easy draw!!!
     
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  13. viduka0101

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    what are you talking about, you've pulled it out just now
     
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  14. kafelnikov

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    Poor Hewitt.. can't catch a break.
     
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    if there is a poster that never said a word about rigged draws it's me. but the ones i adress this question are clearly identified...

    as for your point... since when placing a question is making a statement?
     
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  16. P_Agony

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    Fed actually has a tough draw. Murray's draw looks he easiest one. There should be no excuses for him not to reach at least the semi final.
     
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  17. Telepatic

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    Is that Novak having Tommy Haas and Delpo before SF?.......
     
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  18. CountryHillbilly

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    Yes, but not both. Haas and DelPo have to decide it among themselves first.
     
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  19. MichaelChang

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    The biggest advantage for Murray is not really about his opponents in the first couple rounds, but the fact that Nadal is not in good shape. Very likely Nadal is not going to reach the semi, that I think has a pretty high % probability right now. In the other half, Federer has to clash with Djoko/DelPo, either one of these 2 could be deadly for Murray.
     
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  20. CountryHillbilly

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    In short, Murray is on cruise control for a long time.
     
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    To me, Djokovic's ddraw is the least challenging. But of course, that's if Djokovic plays well.
     
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  22. CountryHillbilly

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    Don't talk nonsense, please. It's Djokovic that has DelPo before semis.

    Murray has the easiest draw by far, unless Gulbis decides to step it up.
     
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  23. swwong

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    What happens IF nadal decide not to defend his title?

    Federer will be no.1 seed but his position in the draw should be the same??

    Thanks
     
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  24. MichaelChang

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    Theoretically, I think Nadal and Djoko have the tough draws. BEFORE they could reach semi, Nadal has to play Roddick, and Djoko has to play DelPo. Who does Murray has to play before the semi? Simon. lol.
     
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  25. CountryHillbilly

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    DelPo becomes No.1 seed IMO. Can someone confirm it, please?
     
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    Whatever. I'm not going to get into arguments over easiest draw. It's all about the form of the opponent. If Gulbis decides to show, Murray's draw suddenly isn't as easy. Who knows.
     
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  27. Halba

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    yes. his section is stacked with grass court specialists like muller and tsonga.
     
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  28. Halba

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    people have been expecting this gulbis guy to show for over 2 years now. it hasnt happened.
     
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  29. CountryHillbilly

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    Gulbis has been staying in his room for a long time now. So what makes you think he will come out now?

    Murray got the easiest definitely, the rest three about equal.
     
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  30. MichaelChang

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    It's ok. Whoever plays the best tennis for the next 2 weeks is the champion, regardless of the draw. I think what most likely is going to happen, is that Murray will meet Federer in the final, and Sampras give Federer the cup in the ceremony and for the 15th as Sampras promised. :)
     
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    Seriously tho, he only shows for one set at a time, and only in slams. Like last year vs Nadal, and at the USO vs Roddick. He's shown flashes, but has sucked recently losing to Alberto Martin in Queens. But you never know. He's unpredictable. I don't expect Murray to have any problems. But again, you never know.
     
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    You also forgot about:

    Nicolas Mahut FRA <--- great grass court player
    Ivo Karlovic CRO (22) <--- the serve


    Fed's definitely got his work cut out for him.
     
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    DelPo is a big unknown, he's 2-2 at Wimbledon, and I don't think he's played a single grass event in the run up to it? I'm hesitant to consider him the biggest 1/4 challenge present
     
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  34. CountryHillbilly

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    Yeah, I know. And Djokovic has Federer in the semis, who lost to some clay court specialist last year, and hasnt played on grass recently.
     
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    Nadal has the easiest draw of the lot.
    1:Clement
    2:Hewitt(the best of the lot until QF)
    3:Tursunov(easy again)
    4:Ferrer/Stepanek
    QF: Roddick

    Murray
    1:Kendrick(IMO the toughest 1st round opponent)
    2:Gulbis
    3:Dent
    4: Wawrinka
    QF: have no idea, wouldn't be tough, let's say Gonzo

    Djokovic
    1:Benneteau
    2:Greul
    3:Fish/Tipsarevic
    4:Schuettler
    QF: Quarrey/Cilic/Haas/Delpo

    Federer
    1:Lu
    2:Calleri
    3:Kohli
    4:Soderling/Lopez
    QF:Tsonga/Karlovic

    All in all Federer and Djokovic have the toughest as the best servers are in their half - Karlovic,Tipsi,Fish,Quarrey,Cilic,Haas,Delpo,Soderling,Kohli,Lopez,Llodra...
     
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    Murray vs Safin in the 4th round.

    I see an upset already.
     
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    Maybe - if Safin can make the 4th round for the third time in his career.
     
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    Federer has the easiest draw IMO. He will probably cruise to the finals with that draw. Poor Rafa got the toughest draw. :(
     
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    Nadal may go past the 4th round this time - Soderling is not in his draw! Lucky guy.
     
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  40. TheTruth

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    Wouldn't it depend on how they play on the respective surfaces? You can take the same guys and put them on different sources and the outcomes would be different.


    Not saying how these particular guys fare on this surface, but for example, Blake on clay isn't as good as Blake on hard.
     
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  41. TheTruth

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    Raises hand!
     
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    Agreed. Verdasco's worst surface is grass. He has done nothing on grass his career that I know of. Tsonga is better on grass than clay, but any type of hard court or indoor surface is by far his best now. Soderling's least strong surface might be grass given his recent FO performance on clay and all his strong hard court tennis over the years. Plus it is the matchup for Federer. He never has problem with one dimensional flat hard hitting opponents. Del Potro played some of the most insane power tennis at the FO this year and still wasnt able to beat Federer on his worst surface. A different style opponent would be alot tougher on him, and that is why I feel his draw is easy for him.
     
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  43. Fedace

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    I thought Nadal was going to pull out ?
     
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  44. TheTruth

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    I agree....
     
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  45. JennyS

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    Nadal and Roddick haven't played each other in a Slam since the 2004 US Open, so I really want to see them play each other here.
     
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  46. Enigma_87

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    Cilic,Delpo,Querrey,Fish,Karlovic,Tsonga, Soderling, all big hitters from the serve but Roddick are in Fed's and Djokovic half.
     
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  47. JennyS

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    Anyone else excited about the potential Karlovic vs Tsonga 3rd rounder?
     
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  49. shadows

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    not so much, it'll be a serve fest, and I'll be too worried about Jo breaking Karlovic after what happened in his match with Haas ><

    I'm more looking forward to a possible Tsonga/Verdasco match though since that should be rather more interesting from the back of the court.
     
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  50. FlamEnemY

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    Federer's draw is :shock:

    Murray should reach the final with this draw. He's playing very good lately. Then again, if Nadal is 100% I don't see him do it.


    And Dimitrov has to play Roddick if he reaches 2nd round :( Talk about a showstopper.
     
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