Thin vs thick grip

Discussion in 'Other Equipment' started by Fintft, Aug 28, 2013.

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What grip do you prefer?

  1. Thinner, so that you can swing faster?

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  2. Thicker, so that the racket doesn't slip out of your hand?

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  1. Fintft

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    I've just changed from 3/8 (the racket was slipping out of my hand) to 1/2 (or close, just by adding one more grip), but now I don't seem to be able to swing so hard....

    Which one do you prefer?
     
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  2. pingu

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    I always prefer thinner. If racket slipping out of your hand, it's better to try different type of over grip. I think it's better than adding more and increase the grip size.
     
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  3. Muppet

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    You may be used to gripping the handle tight. If you loosen your grip you may find more swing speed.
     
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  4. Fintft

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    Thanks and that could explain the heavy sweating as well...
     
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  5. Chotobaka

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    Are you actually serious about the choices and rationale for each?
     
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  6. Fintft

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    As per my limited knowledge yes.
     
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  7. PhrygianDominant

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    I can't decide either. I can lag and rip the racquet more with a smaller grip, but I don't feel as solid on volleys.
     
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  8. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Finft :)

    1. I think you might be connecting dots that have only distant relationship to each other? There is a widely accepted idea that a smaller grip allows for a bit more pronation of the wrist. This is considered to be beneficial to producing topspin, especially on the FH side. That is the reason most will offer up when pressed to explain the trend of smaller grip sizes on the pro tour. However, a floppy wrist is not so good for volleys, this might explain why net specialists tend to prefer larger grips. While it seems there is a connection with regards to wrist mobility and grip size, I think it's a big stretch to say that smaller grips increase swing speed.

    2. Also consider that most players are not swinging at maximum speed, at least not on groundies anyways. You are likely intentionally dialing it down a few notches in order to maintain consistency. Swinging as fast as you can is just going to produce a whole lot of unforced errors.

    3. I vaguely recall a study done not long ago, done on the effects of grip size and tennis elbow. Electrodes were hooked up to the forearms of College tennis players. They were given racquets with various grips. As it turns out, they squeezed all of the grip sizes with the same amount of pressure. I don't have the bookmark handy here on my traveling laptop, but that study is out there somewhere on the inter tubes. I guess that's not such a surprising result when you think about it. While the surface area of the larger grip is greater, the size of the surface area of contact does not change, because your hands are still the same size.

    Hope that helps!

    Jack
     
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  9. Fintft

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    Thanks Jack!

    I'm still not feeling the serve (relaxed arm) with the thicker grip yet, but that might have nothing to do with the grip per say :) Starting to get back more of my power on the groundies while the volleys are better.
     
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  10. Muppet

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    I think my point was lost, as I didn't come right out and state it.

    A hand that is holding the racquet tight will have tense muscles and tendons that hold the bones rigidly in place and will slow down swing speed.

    A relaxed grip will allow the muscles, tendons, and bones, as well as the racquet, to move much more freely. A relaxed grip allows for soft hands, which allows for higher swing speeds.
     
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  11. stringmaster

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    I picked thinner grip but I dont think that it has anything to do with swinging as hard. Sorry I couldnt help I dont know much about this topic.
     
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  12. VoodooBoot

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    Jack, any chance of posting a link to that study? Thanks!
     
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  14. ChicagoJack

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    Oh hello again VoodoBoot,

    Yeah cool, I found the article. It's a quick review of a study originally published in The American Journal Of Sports Medicine, circa 2006.

    http://phys.org/news84199141.html
     
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  15. BLX_Andy

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    I prefer thicker grips because the racquet feels more secure in my hand. You would be able to achieve a faster swing speed by just loosening you grip a little.
     
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  16. liam1

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    Have a racket on demo at the moment that is 4 3/8 however the shop pro tells me that 4 5/8 is my correct size and I have to say it does feel good, easy to distinguish between the bevels where as the smaller grip feels too "round". BTW my current racket is 4 1/2 with a Tourna overgrip that i have to use due to sweaty hands. This intrigues me because I by no means have large hands or long fingers. If you take a look at the "For Sale" thread you'll notice that the vast majority of rackets have a grip size of 3/8 with the odd 1/2 thrown in.5/8 are virtually non existant. Does this mean that the majority of guys are playing with too small grip sizes? It also poses the question that if I purchase a 5/8 and ever want to resell it the I could have some difficulty. I'm thinking I should go for the 1/2 and build it up. Does anyone know how many overgrips it would take to achieve this and if some are better than others for this use in terms of weight, thickness etc. I know Chicago jack has done a lot of work in this field.Also is there any danger of losing the feel of the bevels by attempting to build up the grip using this method? Thanks.
     
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  17. VoodooBoot

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    Lots of questions in that single chunk of text, trying to answer them all...

    Yes, most men are using a grip size that is too small for them according to their measurement, but they seem to be happy with that. It's a trend that's started, I don't know, 10-15 years ago.

    One, say medium thickness, OG will roughly give you 1/2 size, so 2 grips = 1 size. But OGs are going to round off the bevels and add (a lot of) weight. If you want to keep the sharpness of the bevels you can use balsa wood, install a pallet (e.g. Head), or do a custom mold.

    And yes, it seems to be more difficult to sell 5/8s than the rest. I recently bought a mint Prestige Pro off the bay and I was the only bidder. 3/8s have 10-20 guys bidding on them.
     
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  18. Asmith89

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    I will prefer thinner so that I can swing it easily and have good grip.
     
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  19. Knife

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    Grip size is very individual, not only due to hand-size. I´m meticulous to have the "right" fit, otherwise my game falls apart, can only think of the d****d grip! I think this issue is the same like when choosing a frame, go for as heavy as possible, the largest grip as possible to. With todays modern synthetic grips I can feel the gripsize decrease toward the end of a playing session. Very annoying, but then again I´m much to precise. A larger grip helps (me) relaxing the hand and arm with all the benefits.
     
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  20. cocarrot

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    I used to be a popular 4 3/8 grip size player but my preformance on the court is simply much better with a bit thicker 4 1/2 + thin base grip (i.e. Skin Feel). My volleys love this setup!
     
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