This sleeper is better than the PDR, Exterme Pro 2.0, and Pro One

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  1. DustinW

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    Tecnifibre TFlash 315 SpeedFlex

    My opinion of course, but this is by far my favorite out of the 11.8ish oz, stiff, widebeam, open string pattern frames that I tried.

    - Plenty of power and spin without sacrificing control
    - Swings light/fast but still has tons of plow-through
    - Huge sweetspot, and great solid feel without any vibrations
    - Lively upper hoop (hard to find IMO)
    - Crisp feeling like a stiff frame, but has a nice flex in the throat

    Here are the frames that I have recent experience with if anybody wants a comparison. I sorted these in order from most favorite to least favorite. For reference, I'm a 4.5 player and I typically string with full poly in the low-mid 50's.

    Babolat PDR+ (2009 version)
    Head Youtek IG Extreme Pro 2.0
    Babolat 2013 APD+ (with and without lead)
    Babolat Pure Storm Tour
    Prince EXO3 Warrior (with and without lead)
    Donnay Pro One 16x19
    Tecnifibre TFight 320 TP
     
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  2. spinovic

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    I've always been curious about the TFight series, but never had much interest in the TFlash. I'd like to try the new TFight 315.

    Congratulations, I'm glad you found one you like. Hope it "serves" you well.
     
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  4. DustinW

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    Different from the PST, but it's definitely in the same category as the P1.
     
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  5. ohplease

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    Agreed. I'm using the 315 speedflex currently and also evaluated the Extreme 2.0, EXO3 Warrior, and Pro One. Not exactly plush, but much more arm friendly than you would think given the specs and amount of pop.
     
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    P1's practically a 95, and lighter with mass towards the hoop. The 315 seems to play bigger than a 100 according to TW Chris, and seems to be more HL though heavier overall. Apart from the headsize, I do like the specs of 315 though.
     
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    I agree with DustinW. Especially with your comparison list. Especially P1 and PDR were disappointments for me. Perhaps TFlash is more near to APD? If you are looking for racket in that category TFlash is definitely worth checking out IMO.

    I used to play with TFlash 315 some years ago and it had power but controllable power. Only funny thing for me was that it seemed to lose tension with regular polys very quick. Maybe relatively open pattern, stiff stringbed area and large head?

    After that I tried TF320 and found it to kill my shoulder (it started already with TFlash 315).

    Now I am back with Prestige MP for years and I am happy. I have tried many others on the way but keep coming back to Prestige.
     
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    In what ways, if you don't mind me asking?

    Very low powered stick though control is fabulous. Are you playing stock?
     
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    I suppose so, but anything between 95 and 100 plays about the same to me.

    The 315 is WAY more maneuverable and faster than the P1. I was not a fan of the weight distribution on the P1.
     
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    Low powered maybe but I would more emphasize the control. Of course 18x20 string pattern provides control. Level of power depends a lot of stringing. If you pull full poly +24kg for sure the power is lower. I strung my other with Gut/poly hybrid at 23/22kg and other syn gut/poly at 22/21 kg. I am very happy of the feel and also nice (controllable) pop. But what is interesting I find no limitations in generating spin. Before I used to play with full poly, Signum Pro Tornado strung at 24kg.

    My Prestiges (YT and YTIG) are kind of stock. YT happens to have 10g more static mass than specs say. I have added 2g lead in in 3 and 9 so it weights 350g at the moment. SW is 315. YTIG was 336g, added 4g at 3 and 9 so now it is 340g. SW 316. I will balance the sticks so YTIG should have about 8g more in handle and some in the hoop.

    I like how YT plays. I feel that the head is little bit more flexible than YTIG. But let's see how it will be after balancing.
     
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  11. ollinger

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    I demoed this racquet in its last prior paintjob and found TW's rather dismal review to be accurate: poor feel, uncomfortable, remarkably unstable given its weight, didn't do much of anything all that well.
     
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  12. DustinW

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    Are you maybe confusing it with something else???

    [from TW review] "The TFlash 315 SpeedFlex delivered when it came to power. The playtest team found easy access to power from all areas of the court. This power, paired with the easily generated spin, resulted in a forgiving stick. The comfortable feel and forgiving nature of the racquet made this a standout racquet in the mid-11 ounce range. This racquet has plenty to offer for a range of skill levels, from intermediate to Open players, and should land on the list of must demos."
     
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  13. Chotobaka

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    The Speed Flex T-Flash's had the worst feel of any in this series for me -- very pingy and overly stiff. The earlier (2009-ish) T-Flash 310's had far better feel and comfort. They also took well to customization.
     
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    When I was researching opinions on the speedflex, there are some pretty consistent haters. That's cool - they're entitled to their opinions.

    But there are also people who consistently praise the frame - myself included. Ultimately, people still need to demo. For me personally, it came down to the speedflex 315, pro one, and juice pro - and the speedflex won.
     
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  15. ollinger

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    no, not confusing it with anything else. I find TW's number ratings more useful than their prose, especially their summation paragraph (that you quoted) which usually tries to put as positive a spin as feasible on the thing without completely trashing it. Stability and control were rated mid 70s, not very good, and feel was a dismal 71. My own experience with the racquet was similar to theirs.
     
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  16. DustinW

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    Interesting. I know what you mean about the TW reviews, but the individual players will usually say if there was something that they hated about it. I guess this is proof why you should try frames out for yourself instead of trusting other's opinions or reviews here on TW. :) I've only spent a few days with it so I suppose my perception could change, but I think it was one of the most stable and comfortable frames I've hit in a long time.
     
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    Absolutely. Demo if at all possible. Everyone has their own preferences. It doesn't matter if 99 out of 100 dislike a racquet, as long as you like it and can play well and comfortably with it. To each their own.
     
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    Just a follow up... I've now spent a few weeks with this frame and played both singles and doubles with people ranging from 3.5-5.0... and this one is a keeper!

    Seriously, I've hit a ton of frames, and this one does everything well for me. With every frame I've ever hit, I could always find one thing that I didn't like, but not with this one.

    My mini-review:

    It is very much like the PDR+ I was using previously, but more maneuverable, better feel, and much better on touch shots. Power on serves and groundies is there just like the PDR, but the speedflex is much better at the net and on those quick reflex shots.

    I didn't mind the stiffness of the PDR, but the speedflex definitely feels a bit more flexible while retaining that crisp, responsive feel of the PDR. Maybe the Speedflex thing actually does something, because I can feel the flex in the throat instead of the head... which I much prefer. That flex that I feel sort of reminds me of the old Fischer Pro 1, but this one is obviously not as flexy.

    The overall feel is fantastic. It is solid, has a large sweetspot, hits a nice heavy ball, has a lively upper hoop, and has very little vibration no matter where you hit it. In a single word, it is 'comfortable'. This is definitely a frame that I prefer hitting without a dampener because there is so little vibration. I've never hit with a stiff frame that was so good at hitting drop shots, touch shots, and nasty angles. It also plays lighter than it is... if I played without knowing it's weight, I would guess it was in the 11.3 oz range.

    With all that said, topspin groundstrokes are where this frame really shines. It just hits deep, heavy groundstrokes with power and plenty of depth and directional control.

    Strung with Volkl Cyclone at 52#.
     
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