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  1. aimr75

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    I'm heading to New York in a few days and was wondering how much people usually tip in the US?
     
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  2. 10s talk

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    10-20%..... depending on service
     
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    I tip 100 % for the haircut...
     
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    Or slightly less, if you are Pete Sampras (apparently:))
     
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    Normally I tip a buck per bag for people that help with luggage. (or more, depending)
    10% is normal for taxi drivers, I hear.
    15% - 20% for food service, depending on quality of service.
    Bartenders I tip heavily at the start of the evening so I'll get good service. As the evening goes on I tip less and less so they'll slow down. (I always pay by the drink - I don't like running a tab.)

    I tip my barber $5, but he's just a regular barber - it's not a fancy hair salon like women go too.
     
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    i tell them i am british and not to expect a tip.
    In a truly multicultural city they should understand that, and I would expect a genuine "thank you" from me would be enough compensation for them to do the job they are paid to do.
     
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    I'm hoping this is a troll attempt but in the small chance that it's not I'm going to tell you that servers do not recieve a normal wage and in fact rely on tips to make up the bulk of their salary. A simple thank you will not compensate them enough to improve the 1.65 base hourly wage they get and in fact will probably lead to you not having good service anywhere in america.
     
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    I hope you're not being serious. Being British doesn't excuse you from tipping.:?
     
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    15% non negotiable and 20% if you are really happy with the service. I always tip 15% regardless of anything and up to 30%...
     
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    10-15% mostly.

    I also put one dollar on my bed in the hotel.
     
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    thanks for the replies..
     
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  12. ninman

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    Tip nothing, don't succumb to social pressure.
     
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    What about when the service or the tip is "included" on the bill?
     
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    Tell them to remove it, and that you're not paying it.
     
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    For $1 the staff just swaps your sheets with someone else's that just left $1.

    If you want clean sheets you need to leave at least $5.
     
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    remind me never to stay in an American hotel. I would tip zero and demand clean sheets. If no clean sheets are coming then I'm going to complain to the manager.
     
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    If a service/gratuity charge is already added onto the bill then you're not expected to add more. The amount of grat varies between places but it ranges from 15-20%. However, if you feel like your server deserves more than the grat listed, feel free to add more. A few extra dollars can make a huge difference in a server's night.

    The gratuity is there for big parties to protect the server from getting stiffed on large parties and actually lose money. Where I work, we have to pay out 3% of the total bill to the hostesses/bartenders/bussers so getting $2 on a $100 tab means we actually lose money. If the service is horrible, you can talk to a manager and get it removed and leave what you feel was deserved.

    So tip well and just because you're foreign isn't an excuse! When in Rome, do as Romans. And don't tip in Japan.
     
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    10-15%, but most of the guys who get tips are living really skimpy lives. Make their day and tip them a bit extra. :)
     
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    well, I was only trolling a bit earlier, I actually dont live in the UK right now, and I get good service from people on very low wages here, so i DO TIP. In the UK generally no, perhaps a couple of quid in a food place if service was good, but generally it isnt that good in the UK, to be honest.

    I would hate to feel pressured to tip because its the done thing, but if a waiter is on a very low salary, and makes effort to ensure i have a decent experience, then sure I would tip, anywhere between 10-20%.

    But if i get Americans telling me no no no you have to tip because its the custom and because the employers are stiffing their employees and when in rome etc, then I would resist it.

    however, as I said above, if service was GOOD, then I would tip and perhaps tip a bit more if i knew the waiters were getting paid peanuts.
     
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    In other words, you're a lousy tipper.
     
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    Actually I am just asking to see if it required to add more on top of that. I used to work as a waiter at the beggining of College I know that the tip is important for the waiter income, laws and customs are different in every country and every place, for instance here, you will always get a 10% service included on your bill, that is the payment of the waiters, and like 99% of the time people will leave a tip on top of that, so you usually end up paying between 15 and 20% of tip. In other countries you do not even have to leave a tip but that is because the waiters have a normal monthly salary, so the tip or service fee is not required, so it is always good to ask how the tip thing works in every place.

    Ok, thanks for the information, I totally agree with you about tip according the local customs.
     
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  25. sureshs

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    15% all the time. Just easier to be consistent and the math is also easier (involves shifting a decimal point, dividing by 2, and adding). 10% is considered too little and I think 20% is way too much. 15% keeps everyone happy, specially if you also look poor and wearing old mismatched clothing, like I do.
     
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  26. Rockitdog

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    Says the guy dealing with the crazy Chinese women...
     
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    If I was a cab drive who had an British person who was actualy arrogant enough to tell me they weren't going to tip I'd drive their *** all over town and make a 15-20 ride 2 hours!
     
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    Only do less than 15% if waitor is very rude or neglects you. If the level of service is reasonable, then you should be tipping closer to 20%.
     
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  29. sureshs

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    A good strategy is to pretend you just arrived in the US and speak very little English and don't understand the currency. Some guys will actually demand tips, like the curbside checkin guys at the airport. Just pretend you don't understand what they say.
     
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  30. raiden031

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    I'd beg to differ on this one. If you are too poor to tip adequately, then you should really eat at a place where you purchase your food order over the counter? No?
     
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  31. Cindysphinx

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    Just tip 20% and have done with it. It is the rare server who is deliberately rude and surly.

    Do unto others, golden rule, karma, old-fashioned human kindness . . . all good reasons not to walk the earth stiffing people on tips.
     
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    As a former waitress, please tip closer to 20%. Most of us depend on your tips to balance out the minumum wage we receive. Thank you.

    -Jennifer
     
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    sureshs is not poor (i presume) but he might dress as he claims, thereby reducing tip expectations.
     
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  35. Bartelby

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    A tip should be for service beyond normal expectation. It shouldn't be to recompense staff for normal service because wages are miserly. If it is a compulsory payment that goes directly to staff, then that's a different matter.
     
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    As a customer I'd like to explain that tips are not obligatory and that restaurants are not charities, and even if they were they should not be demanding donations. It's not up to us to pay your salary, it's up to your boss.
     
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    Who's fault is it that you chose a profession that pays "minumum wage"?
     
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    Is it morally right that someone wait on you (and other tables simultaneously) for 45-60 minutes, both knowing that the value of their work is worth more than minimum wage, yet choose to make them work for minimum wage? Seems wrong to me. Seems like taking advantage of someone for their own personal gain. That is why I'm disgusted with people who don't have enough decency to tip.

    Don't like tipping, Don't eat out!
     
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    There is a reason why in some places the owner doesn't pay the waiters salary, if you have to add the cost to the plates then the price of the food would be too high! so they only pay part of the waiter salary and the rest is earned by tips. In some places you can actually go and ask the food at the counter and do not pay for the service. I wonder if any of this cheapos are willing to do that. In some places the waiters actually preffers the tip way and it is on the law and on the contract in the case there is an union involved.
     
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    Perhaps you should look the meaning of the word "tip" in the dictionary. Tips are non compulsory payments awarded for exceptional service. Morals and ethics have absolutely no meaning here. If the service is poor, they don't deserve anything. I couldn't care less what their situation is. Being a waiter is a low skill job, which only requires having a pulse to do. They don't deserve anything.
     
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    The dictionary definition is irrelevant. And morals and ethics have EVERYTHING to do with it. Why would a decent human being make someone work for almost nothing? Only a jerk would do that!
     
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    Of course not! These jerks want to get something for nothing.
     
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  43. inthemisosoup

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    generally, 15-20% in restaurants and hair salons and the like but i usually leave about 18%. just easier to figure out that way, in my state the tax is 6% so i just triple it to figure out tip. ;)

    if i am at a bar generally $1 per round (for me, it's usually just 1 or 2 drinks a round so it's not like i'm ordering 5 things and tipping $1), unless it's a very large order, then you give accordingly. some people like to give more to ensure better service, maybe tip $5-$7 to start off the night and you're on the right track. you can open a tab at many bars at the start of the night and at the end, again tip maybe 10-15%.

    at hotels usually give the bell man $1 per bag of luggage. every day the maids come and tidy your room and i usually leave $3-$5. but $3 really is fine.

    i don't really take taxis but i'd guess it to be around 10-15% again. usually this is a safe guess if you're not sure.

    just a note. there are a lot of subtleties to tipping culture here that i know is hard to catch on. for example, if you are at a restaurant where you go up and order your food at the counter and clean up after yourself, usually no tip is necessary. if you want to leave $1-$3 or whatever that's up to you. but if you are waited on and have to pay at the counter at the end of the meal, a tip is still necessary. there are also lots of other services where a varying tip is often expected, but is not quite as necessary or large. often at coffee shops there are cups/bowls on the counter for tip. usually i just throw my spare change in there, or one dollar if i am also getting food. but don't feel like you have to tip 15% there!! or really anything, i feel that is quite optional.

    a lot of people here seem to think tipping is really optional. while it technically is optional, the unspoken rule is that you'll tip. a lot of these people are getting paid LESS than minimum wage because of the fact that they are getting tipped. generally, the tips are most of their income so keep that in mind. if you feel like your service was really poor, i'd still give no less than 10% but at the end of the day it's up to you. you could always talk to the manager or owner and explain why beforehand, so the waiter/waitress can keep these things in mind for the next group s/he serves.

    and, like others said already if gratuity is added already to your bill, there is no need to add a tip!! unless you really want to.

    hope that helps! if you aren't sure you could always ask someone around you for help. americans in general are very friendly.
     
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    So they are being forced to work in a restaurant? I did not know that.
     
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    Who is MAKING them work? Maybe you should take your argument against the managers who employed those poor souls. If they are being underpaid, you should blame the manager, rather than calling the customers cheapos.
     
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    The client is not the employer and the client has not set the minimum wage.

    The client is not responsible for what the employee is paid nor for the system of industrial relations.

    Tips should not be in lieu of decent wages.



     
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    Tipping is the best way to handle the salary of the waiters, it rewards the better worker and it almost a guarantee that you will get a good service, for both the owner and the customer.

    The better the waiter the more money he gets and everybody is happy, the client, the restaurant and the waiter.

    I am pretty sure that the whole tipping thing started because waiters were and optional service, if you wanted to be served then you had to pay directly to the waiter, nowdays everybody take it for granted and think they HAVE to be served.
     
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  48. Juges8932

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    Typically, 15-20% is the amount that is respected.

    Me, personally, I always tip generously (25% or more) unless:

    -They give crappy service (Not attentive, horrible attitude, etc)
    -They grat me. I will not give them a penny more.

    Also, I notice those who are outside of the US are critical towards tipping/don't understand why it is there. Personally, I agree, I think the corporations should simply pay their employees better, so the clients don't have to tip, or at least not as much. However, given the circumstances, waiters should get tips. They get paid ~2.15-3.15/hr, which is not minimum wage and obviously, they can't make a living off of that and depend on the tips. However, the more they work, the more tables they have, the more people, thus more bills and more tips. So, in theory, they make an amount proportional (directly) to how much they work, which isn't that bad.
     
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    So, you tipp the guy charging your bill at the supermarket line??
     
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