To bee or not to bee

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by sureshs, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    Today my partner started the serve when a bee attacked the returner's face. He turned away and shooed it off, but the serve was on its way and landed in. He did not touch it. We played a let.

    What would you have done?
     
    #1
  2. IA-SteveB

    IA-SteveB Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    982
    Location:
    Iowa
    I would have done the same. Good sportsmanship.
     
    #2
  3. dcdoorknob

    dcdoorknob Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,560
    Yeah, I'd play a let. Even in a 'competitive' match.

    "A bee attacked my face" seems like an acceptable reason to play a let imo.
     
    #3
  4. BobFL

    BobFL Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,692
    Location:
    Orlando
    I have no idea. Maybe you should ask Cindy....
     
    #4
  5. AutoXer

    AutoXer Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    Cartersville, GA
    My partner(we'll call him Tom) was serving. The receiver(we'll call him Bob) was in the ready position. Tom served and Bob "claimed" he wasn't ready because a bee attacked his face. Bob wanted to play a let, but I had my handy rulebook in my tennis bag. The USTA big ole book o tennis rules stated that since Bob was in the ready position it was an ace, but I was too tired to get my rule book and didn't have time to explain the rule to these simpletons, so we argued just to have some drama during my match and then we played a let.
     
    #5
  6. Xisbum

    Xisbum Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    Messages:
    670
    Location:
    Elvisland
    In Paul McCartney's immortal words, "Let it bee, let it bee, let it bee."
    :)

    Or should we say "Bee it let, bee it let, bee it let"?
     
    #6
  7. JoelDali

    JoelDali G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    10,505
    I think you should stop using the 88 and get back to your roots.

    I think you should GOATify Cindy too.
     
    #7
  8. Taxvictim

    Taxvictim Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2007
    Messages:
    501
    Location:
    Wake County, NC
    Even if the receiver was in the ready position, a bee attacked him. If you believe that's what happened, then it should be a let. It's no different than if the receiver had been in the ready position and a ball had rolled onto the court during the serve. Something from the outside came into the court and disrupted play.
     
    #8
  9. CaldwellYSR

    CaldwellYSR Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    179
    Location:
    Shelbyville, TN
    I'd just give them the let and be done with it. Even in a tournament or league play... If the guy got attacked by a bee and you saw him react to that and make no move to go for the ball then there's no question... Now if he tried to go for the ball and missed then claimed it was some bee's fault then it might be a different story.
     
    #9
  10. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    What would Cindy have done?
     
    #10
  11. zcarzach

    zcarzach Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    803
    For sure a let if it was obviously true, and not just a Chris Farley routine.
     
    #11
  12. jswinf

    jswinf Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,141
    Congratulations. It's hard to train a bee that well. :)
     
    #12
  13. zcarzach

    zcarzach Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    803
    I could see a CSI episode where someone uses bee pheremones on an opponent's racquet handle or something to make the bees attack. Maybe they've already done it.
     
    #13
  14. jc4.0

    jc4.0 Professional

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    803
    Florida die-hards?

    You didn't mention whether the bee actually stung the guy. We have so many bugs on our courts, it's rarely a let if someone is distracted by one of them. The other day, we were playing doubles when an entire HIVE of bees descended on our side of the court. There were at least a thousand of them, no kidding. I just kept playing, while my partner went into a frenzy. We won the point, and the discussion of a "let" was never had. The bees were only there for that point, then they moved on off toward the west.

    on the other hand if you want to be nice about it, no problem with that. I'm just so used to being "attacked" by bees, gnats, wasps, mosquitoes, birds, etc. that I'd only stop the point if something actually stung me, and then would not necessarily expect to replay the point. We have lots of birds who occasionally defecate on us, and the point continues.
     
    #14
  15. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    I don't think the bee stung him. It got near his eyes and he panicked of course. It may not have been a bee after all, who knows?
     
    #15
  16. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Glad I play in an urban environment here in Florida. Growing up in suburban Florida and playing tennis on summer nights was just scary!
     
    #16
  17. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,083
    In Houston, we had to flick the Copperheads off the court in the morning with our rackets. Never had one of the snakes crawl back onto the courts while playing that I remember, though. Would that have been cause for a let? What if it was a Water Moccasin?
     
    #17
  18. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    Alligators from the nearby lake? Or just mosquitos?
     
    #18
  19. jc4.0

    jc4.0 Professional

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    803
    snakes & frogs & bugs oh my!

    poisonous snakes? think i might draw the line there. Do you also play in pointy-toe alligator boots? LOL

    During early spring, we have millions of baby frogs too, that hop all over the court. We try to flick them off, but oftentimes they get squished underfoot. I always feel guilty.

    I would say that our worst critters are actually the "no-see-ums". At dawn and dusk, these teeny biting gnats descend in clouds upon the courts, and they'll bite through the strongest insect repellant. I have courts at my house, which are close to a mangrove swamp - it's pretty unbearable in the hotter months.

    Gotta love florida tennis! At least we can play outside 365 a year (other than the rain). I prefer fighting off critters, to fighting for an indoor court.
     
    #19
  20. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Where I grew up, there were alligators in the canal behind the courts. It was always an adventure retrieving a ball back there that did not make it all the way into the water.


    Luckily where I play they spray for insects. I forget about all the critters at night until I play at a neighborhood court.
     
    #20
  21. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,083
    I've had snakeskin boots and lizard boots, but rarely played tennis in them.
     
    #21
  22. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Had to fight off a huge bumblebee on a changeover this evening. I looked like Zorro for about 15 seconds.
     
    #22
  23. jswinf

    jswinf Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,141
    ^^I'd think it'd be tough to play in a mask and a cape.

    In Arizona we mostly worry about rattlesnakes and sunstroke. Maybe the odd Gila monster.
     
    #23
  24. corbind

    corbind Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,308
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    You Florida residents at CRAZY! Gators, snakes, swarms of insects the norm...sounds more like a survival event. Any ball near he water is the gator's...
     
    #24
  25. dParis

    dParis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    1,635
    Great thread. Time to pin some stars on this one.

    My God, this sounds more like a recurring nightmare than a day at the tennis courts. A THOUSAND BEES desended on your court for only ONE POINT? Sounds like a very fickle colony, but I do hear from many people that they (people, not necessarily bees) prefer the Gulf Coast to the Atlantic, so maybe not so strange. You really kept your cool under the circumstances. You wouldn't happen to bee the Bee Beard Guy, would you?

    Regarding the incontinent birds, some cultures say that getting hit by bird crap is good luck. Did you win the match?

    Count our blessings in the 312.

    I was golfing in Florida and one of the sand traps was playing host to a large alligator. So when they say if you go into that bunker you're dead, it isn't hyperbole.
     
    #25
  26. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    I was walking back to our condo a few months ago with the wife after dark. Just after getting into the gate, my wife said "Oh my God". I had no idea what frightened her. She pointed about 15 feet away and there was a 5 foot alligator smilling at us. If people don't feed the gators, they are scared of people. Still is unnerving when they get that close.

    I grew up on a lake and a handful of times, a water mocassin got between me and the shoreline. Kinda scary. Another time, a buddy of mine killed a mocassin with a shovel. He tried to use this long pole to grab the snake and fling it over his head behind him into the water. He did not get enough velocity and the snake slid down the pole right on his head. He was flailing around in the water with a dead bloody mocassin on him!

    Last story for the day. A few years ago, a co-worker of mine had a large hornet's nest in the base of a tree that his lawn guy begged him to have a professional remove. So he got "the cheap guy" who came without a bee suit. The guy claimed he could kill the nest without needing a suit. The key was to stay calm and show no fear. My co-worker has the video of it. About 10 seconds after the guy started spraying, he started slapping his arm a little. Then he drops his gear, his glasses fall off and he goes off in a full sprint with a swarm of angry hornets behind him. Would be great material for America's Funniest Home Videos. The nest was about 6 feet long when they finally dug it out!
     
    #26
  27. Taxvictim

    Taxvictim Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2007
    Messages:
    501
    Location:
    Wake County, NC
    Somebody mention Zorro?

    :)
     
    #27
  28. OrangePower

    OrangePower Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,049
    Location:
    NorCal Bay Area
    That's nothing; here in NorCal we have cougars.
     
    #28
  29. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    I don't consider middle aged women as dangerous as alligators...until you break up with them. :)
     
    #29
  30. OrangePower

    OrangePower Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,049
    Location:
    NorCal Bay Area
    Oh, no, I meant actual cougars, as in, mountain lions from the nearby hills.






    NOT!!
     
    #30
  31. jc4.0

    jc4.0 Professional

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    803
    You think we don't have cougars in south Florida?! My entire team is made of cougars. Grrrrrowwwwwllll!!!

    I defy you to find a ladies' league team down here that doesn't have at least a few. We are fierce! And we'll stalk day or night! Not that I'm looking for prey at the moment, personally - I just keep my bright green cat-eyes open. I'm allowed to watch Nadal change his shirt - and wish I was 20 again!
     
    #31
  32. OrangePower

    OrangePower Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,049
    Location:
    NorCal Bay Area
    This is true. But definitely a different subspecies from what we have here in the Bay Area. (I'm often in Fort Lauderdale, so can only comment on that area - don't usually head down to Miami or north to Palm Beach.)

    By the way, we really do have mountain lions in the Bay Area (although sightings are rare)... and South Florida has panthers (endangered).
     
    #32
  33. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Might as well tell my Panther story too. There was one brought to a high school football game since one of the teams playing had that as their mascot. This was a big sleek black cat. It was on the other side of the fence with a chain around its neck. I put my finger through the fence to pet the great beast. The big cat instantly turned around and tried to attack me through the fence! I got yelled at by the owner and moved along.
     
    #33
  34. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    What a coincidence

    http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/thespin.aspx?articleid=18220&zoneid=32


    When JJ Met Bee: All of the buzz in Birmingham was that Francesca Schiavone and Sabine Lisicki lost in the second round, but Jelena Jankovic faced a tough out herself when a bee came at her as she prepared to return serve against UK challenger Melanie South. Here is the best part of that write-up: "Instead, Jankovic suddenly darted toward the back stop, calling out 'Wait, wait, wait.' South then double-faulted."
     
    #34
  35. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    It was Roddick wearing a Lacoste shirt.
     
    #35
  36. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    Gila monster think you da odd one
     
    #36
  37. axel89

    axel89 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1,161
    please post more stories there AMAZING!
     
    #37
  38. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Hmm, what other material do I have. Let's see, I was about 10 years old riding my bike and a bumblebee decided to fly up my shorts and sting me on the leg. Not fun. Another time, I knocked a hornet's nest off a ledge and ran like heck and was fortunate they could not catch me. The next morning I went back and all the eggs had been eaten out of the nest and there were 10 dead hornets and a dead blue jay. Guess they had a little tussle after I left.

    When I was 16, I was tasked with killing hornet's nests at this old mansion being converted into a tennis club. They will chase after you, so you need to spray and get into a safe place in a few seconds. The spray goes about 20 feet so you get a head start, but these things are fast. I had successfully taken 2 out the day before, but this one required the longest running distance to the door. I sprayed and instantly saw 3 fly towards me. I made a "bee" line for the door and closed it. Thought I was OK until I looked down and there was a big black hornet on my thigh. It stung me and my entire leg turned red for a few days.

    I had the same thing happen in college in South Carolina. I sprayed a wasps nest and my future father-in-law, closed the door as I ran in. He knocked the wasp off my thigh just before it stung me. They seem to go for legs.
     
    #38
  39. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    Why were you wearing shorts when dealing with bees, wasps and creatures like that? Usually long pants and shirts, gloves, and a netting over the head is the protocol.
     
    #39
  40. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    Alligator smile because you tasty
     
    #40
  41. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Well, I was a kid when most of these stories happened. Also, I was not walking up to the nest and doing a documentary. It gets a little warm here in the summers so I only wear pants under protest. :)
     
    #41
  42. axel89

    axel89 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1,161
     
    #42
  43. chatt_town

    chatt_town Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,989
    Exactly what I was talking about in another thread....You don't get two chances to win a point. I'd play a let as well as long as they didn't attempt to return the serve first.


     
    #43
  44. Fuji

    Fuji Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,587
    Hey Mike,

    Awesome stories! Love reading them! I have to ask, are people really afraid of alligators? I always thought of them to be like strage dogs, if you leave them alone they will mutually leave you alone?

    The only thing I've dealt with here in Alberta are rattlesnakes, huge bears, and rats with hooves (deer) that will try to stomp you to death haha!

    -Fuji
     
    #44
  45. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    19,554
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Alligators are scared of humans. The problems typically happen when people feed them and they lose that fear.
     
    #45
  46. Fuji

    Fuji Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,587
    Ohhhh! Makes sense! :)

    -Fuji
     
    #46
  47. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,782
    What about crocodiles?
     
    #47

Share This Page