To lift or not to lift ; THAT IS THE QUESTION?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Farz77, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. Farz77

    Farz77 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    128
    I have heard diverse answers about whether to lift from the knees on the 1hbh or just stay with your knees bent. I personally think that lifting imparts more spin on the ball since the angle at which your racket accelerates upwards in bigger. Anyway, if anyone can post any vids where it is clear that pros do either,or, that would be great. Also your opinions would be greatly appreciated as well.
     
    #1
  2. gastro54

    gastro54 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2008
    Messages:
    226
    #2
  3. ThA_Azn_DeViL

    ThA_Azn_DeViL Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2008
    Messages:
    536
    This was discussed, it depends on the situation, a low ball is usually struck and the player stays low, whereas a high ball with be followed through with the toes.
     
    #3
  4. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    36,365
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Yeah, lift when you want to exagerate the topspin, especially on knee to shoulder high balls.
    That appears to be the new style....tons of top at the expense of pace.
    Needs some energy expenditure to, so you'll be forced to get in shape.
     
    #4
  5. mistapooh

    mistapooh Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2004
    Messages:
    573
    I never read that discussion, but I lift and get on my toes because it helps me time my weight transfer.
     
    #5
  6. BullDogTennis

    BullDogTennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,216
    Location:
    Big Orange Nation
    Lift! Lift! Lift!
     
    #6
  7. Farz77

    Farz77 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    128
    Every shot?
     
    #7
  8. jasoncho92

    jasoncho92 Professional

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    900
    I have a hard time believing that a 5.5 would have to ask this question. Rofl
     
    #8
  9. 1st Seed

    1st Seed Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Messages:
    759
    Location:
    Toronto
    Youzny Has it down.Emulate his backhand. head up, front foot with your weight, and yes lift.
     
    #9
  10. 1st Seed

    1st Seed Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Messages:
    759
    Location:
    Toronto
    Agreed

    I 5.5 should be teaching 1HBH
     
    #10
  11. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    36,365
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    I think even 5.5's can work on their strokes, if they want to change it or get to another level.
    Some tennis players can hide a flaw in their stroke repetoire really well, and it doesn't become exposed until they play better players consistently.
    NEVER EVERY.
    Every shot is different. If you want to drive the ball for a clean winner, lift is not needed.
    If you want to hit exagerated topspin, lift can help, but GuilermoVilas never lifted, nor did Borg.
    First thing that goes in good level tennis is your big quads. When that goes, you're late reacting, you don't hit consistent serves, your shots start to mishit, you don't bend for low balls or adaquately get up for high balls.
    I say....say those quads for the fetch and the positioning, and try to hit using as little energy as possible.
    I'm old, you are young, we need to play a different style, eh?
     
    #11
  12. BullDogTennis

    BullDogTennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,216
    Location:
    Big Orange Nation
    yes. unless the ball is like high, and lifting is just out of the question. or like a volley. go watch federer. unless the ball is like a beautiful spot waist high, or wherever you love to hit it, yes id lift. it leaves a LOT of margin for error. add spin, helps hit deep.

    its not only a lift though. you've got to be shifting weight at the same time. lift and shift weight at the same time.
     
    #12
  13. RestockingTues

    RestockingTues Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2007
    Messages:
    771
    Location:
    Fremont, Ca
    Ouch... Megawhooped Farz77 :lol:
     
    #13
  14. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    36,365
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Yeah, I see a lot of Nationally ranked Juniors with a high amount of leg straightening to enhance the topspin shots.
    Both sides.
    Then I look at the current pros, and almost NONE of them expend their energy lifting the whole body with their quads.
    Yesterday hit with #2 for Harvard. He lifted on some topspin backhands, but for forehands topped or plain ole 100mph, his torso stayed level and supported by bent knees driving forwards, not up, and torso twist, generated a fair amount to the shot.
    Day before, I watched and served to a couple of Nationally ranked girls 18's, fresh from the Nationals in Arizona or whereever.
    Both lost before the 4th round. Both said they got tired. Both lifted on almost every groundstroke....almost. On shoulder high balls, both would plant slightly closed stanced, racket high, and TWIST torso into a very flat looking topspun ball with a "POP" neither could achieve with their first serves.
     
    #14
  15. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    36,365
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Yeah, I see a lot of Nationally ranked Juniors with a high amount of leg straightening to enhance the topspin shots.
    Both sides.
    Then I look at the current pros, and almost NONE of them expend their energy lifting the whole body with their quads.
    Yesterday hit with #2 for Harvard. He lifted on some topspin backhands, but for forehands topped or plain ole 100mph, his torso stayed level and supported by bent knees driving forwards, not up, and torso twist, generated a fair amount to the shot.
    Day before, I watched and served to a couple of Nationally ranked girls 18's, fresh from the Nationals in Arizona or whereever.
    Both lost before the 4th round. Both said they got tired. Both lifted on almost every groundstroke....almost. On shoulder high balls, both would plant slightly closed stanced, racket high, and TWIST torso into a very flat looking topspun ball with a "POP" neither could achieve with their first serves.
    I suspect you can hit thru your knees OR you could hit with your upper body, it's more your style than anything "correct" or incorrect.
     
    #15

Share This Page