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  1. region2champion

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    Just interested what is your ranking and how many coaches have looked at your profile, I only have 9, i'm in 8th grade
     
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  2. kctennis1005

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    im a senior.....have 502
     
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  3. RestockingTues

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    Tennisrecruiter isn't really a place for colleges and coaches to check you out... That's only if you're CRAZY, 5.0+ good. For the rest of us mortals it's more like facebook for tennis players.
     
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  4. kctennis1005

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    tennisrecruiting is the place where coaches look for recruiting so idk what ur talkin about
     
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  5. Johnsw92

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    im a junior and i have a little over 200 coach visits or whatever..i think its pretty cool because it gives you an idea of who is checking you out
     
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  6. scraps234

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    where does it tell u how many coaches r looking at u
     
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  7. RestockingTues

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    I don't get checked out by anyone :( Then again, I'm not good at all xD
     
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  8. scraps234

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    where does it tell u if u do or dont?
     
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  9. kctennis1005

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    when u sign in and look at ur profile it says
     
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  10. region2champion

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    I know, but it is pretty interesting
     
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  11. scraps234

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    do u need to have the membership that costs money?
     
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  12. dallasoliver

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    There are several questions in this thread... Let me make a few general comments about the coach views here. Apologies for the length.


    College Coaches at TennisRecruiting.net

    We have a process where we qualify users as coaches using information provided by the Intercollegiate Tennis Association (ITA) and from the colleges themselves. As of today, TennisRecruiting.net has 996 different users who are confirmed college tennis coaches.


    Coaches' Visits

    TennisRecruiting.net tracks visits from confirmed college coaches to player profiles, and we show that information to players. If you create a free account and link it to your player profile, you can see the number of coaches who have visited your page. With a Recruiting Advantage subscription, you can see information about which particular coaches have visited.

    I do not have the numbers in front of me right now, but at this time of year, HS juniors are probably getting the most visits - followed by seniors, sophomores, and then freshmen. There are sporadic visits to middle school kids, but these visits are fewer are farther between.


    Coaching Advantage Coaches Make More Visits

    Confirmed college coaches can also subscribe to our Coaching Advantage service. Coaching Advantage gives coaches a number of different features, including the following that are relevant to this dicussion:

    • Access to player visits (analagous to coach visits, but visits from players to their college team pages)
    • Ability to create custom rank lists (e.g., juniors with a 3.5 GPA in New England)
    • "Watch lists" of players to enable the monitoring of players of interest
    • Access to contact and academic information

    Several hundred of these thousand coaches subscribe to Coaching Advantage.

    Why is this important? Because coaches with Coaching Advantage have powerful tools that allow them to sift through our database to identify recruiting targets.


    More Coach Visits from information in Custom Rank Lists

    The majority of our coaches are looking for recruits that meet some qualification - or have lots of information. An Ivy coach probably wants kids with high GPAs... a D3 coach in Texas may be recruiting regionally... a coach in the Big 10 may be interested in kids expressing interest in other Big 10 programs... and ALL coaches are probably more interested in kids who have readily-available email addresses and phone numbers.

    Coaches have the ability to create custom rank lists that include kids with any of the qualifications listed above.

    What does this mean? The more information you list, the more coaches' lists you will show up on.

    As an experiment, I looked at all the junior boys ranked 500-550, and the number of coach visits averaged around 12. The numbers ranged from 0 (2 boys) up to 178. There were six kids with more than 100 visits from college coaches. What set those six kids apart? All six had linked to their profiles and provided contact information, and four of them had also provided some academic information.


    More Coach Visits due to Player Visits

    What about the other two kids mentioned in the example from the previous section? Those two players had visited many college team pages - and so coaches could see the player visits. We often see a lot of that - players visit a team page that the coach sees... and then the coach visits the player page... and so on, and so on.


    ...

    Those are a few initial thoughts on coach visits. Again, I apologize for the length, but we often get questions from players about how to increase their exposure.

    I'll scan down this thread a bit later and answer any specific questions that I see. I hope this helps!

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  13. dallasoliver

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    You can see summary information (e.g., you have 32 coach visits) with a free account. Seeing which coaches actually visit requires a Recruiting Advantage subscription.

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  14. dallasoliver

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    The older you are, the more visits you will have because the statistic is cumulative - we keep track over all time. All the visits you have during your freshman year will stay with you for all time.

    However, you can sort by last visit or number of visits.

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  15. dallasoliver

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    You'd be surprised! Here is a email I just got this past weekend from the parent of a 2-Star recruit who is now a college freshman (edited for anonymity):

    Your service greatly enhanced my daughters ability to be recruited despite only being a 2 star recruit. Her team, <deleted>, won the <deleted> tournament and will go to the NCAA's in the Spring. A great deal of coaches looked at your site and looked at her academics and her athletics to see how the school could attract her. Those parents not updating both athletics and academics on your site have limited the middle ranked players from being recruited. We had interest from your web site from numerous coaches and schools that we simply were not aware of and gave my daughter numerous options.

    There are plenty of coach visits to 1-Star and 2-Star players - even some that are not rated at all.

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  16. dallasoliver

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    As I mentioned in my longer post, try updating as much information as you are comfortable sharing. That will usually lead to some hits. And, of course, be patient!

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  17. scraps234

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    thanks =) how much does it cost and do i have to link the player?
     
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  18. MIGHTY MANFRED THE WONDER

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    Thanks again for everything, DALLASOLIVER

    I think today's update (Tuesday 11/11) is a good example of Tennisrecruiting's class and reporting;
    While everyone likes reading about the "very top" national players, like the tenniszoo articles (and dreaming), you also highlighted many different levels ("stars") of boys and girls.
    This shows players wherever they are on the rankings- There are college opportunities to match players,scholastics and tennis- same as Coach Carter has been saying all along in the College section.

    With the signing countdown tommorow- A question, can "nonsubscribers" see where their top players signed by state (or even better,by USTA junior region)? That is asking a lot, but maybe you will consider "cutting" your data this way.

    I'm sure a lot of players would like an easier way to track 18s/Seniors in their regions without going back and forth via names/colleges?
    This would go a long way for some younger players to match their skills-goals with these seniors they have watched, and what they know they will have to do to get into a "level" of college team.
     
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  19. dallasoliver

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    Monthly subscriptions are $7.95. Annual subscriptions are $49.95 for a new membership - but renewals are only $39.95.

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  20. dallasoliver

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    As always, thanks for the kind words.

    As to your question, we do not currently support it, but state/region pages is a feature that is finally moving towards the top of our roadmap. I hesitate to give any dates, because schedules are always fluid with us, but we do plan to have state/region pages where we show information (rankings, commitment lists, local colleges, news, etc.) relevant to that region.

    For the time being, you have to sift through all the data. Sorry!

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  21. scraps234

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    where can i find coach vists?
    do i have to link a player
    Overview | His Activity | Historic Charts | Update
     
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  22. dallasoliver

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    Coach visits are not publicly available to everyone. You need to create a free account and link to your player profile to see the summary statistics.

    Best,
    Dallas
     
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  23. MIGHTY MANFRED THE WONDER

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    It looks like a good deal.
    Other "recruiting" sites cost a fortune, promise the moon, and you can read about their worth in other posts/thread- College section.

    Nobody has written anything positive about the "high dollar" recruiting sites; You are talking about a college/university "minor" sport, and at least for men, it's a college "job" with not much scholarship money.

    If you don't understand that you are going to be "working" a lot of hours, your freinds are pretty much your team mates, and with travel, the commitments on your grades (like if you want post graduate degree) could be hurt. These are things you better think about when you "dream" of playing College tennis. Part of your money for school may come from a job with the athletic department- Don't be suprized if you are asked to man the tennis court office for recreational hours, handing out basketballs at the gym or covering other duties for other minor sports like making sure the Gatoraide buckets are placed and filled for the women's field hockey team. You do what you have to do to play and pay for school.

    If you still really want to play, you have to have the grades, so the tennis coach can go to the school and squeeze you in by getting you other scholarship money- The foreign players get the tennis money, and you get a mish mash of scholarships, grants and work- This isn't football- You have to be creative and help lift the load.
    After all, remember you are going to school to become one of a thousand careers- but tennis pro is not one of them.
    I hope the readers here understand all this, and don't think a 'tennis scholarship" is some pie in the sky deal- They would be fooling themselves as badly as any kid who thinks he is going to be an NBA pro.

    IF you are really low on money, it looks like signing up annually when you are a JUNIOR in H.S. to TENNISRECRUITING- That's when the recruiting really starts to kick in and all your hard work starts you climbing and you get contacted thru the mail.

    I'm kind of suprised DALLASOLIVER hasn't offered a small needs-basis scholarship/grant set up for the cost of membership.

    Lots of players I have talked to say their JUNIOR year is when they started getting noticed.
    Also don't forget the NCAA clearinghouse sign up-You go NOWHERE without that- $50.00 (but a waiver is possible) see your school councilor.
     
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  24. Roger Federer 95

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    Ha ha. nice sig. RestockingTues!
     
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  25. ayyhwang

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    my experience with tennisrecruiting is that unless you put some college names under schools of interest in your profile, you won't get any hits unless your a 4,5, blue chip recruit.
     
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  26. Jdrizzle03

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    when you link an account, what does is all the information used for? does the site send you anything in the mail or call your number?
     
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  27. dallasoliver

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    Contact and academic information is ONLY provided to confirmed college tennis coaches. Our policy is to never share that information with anyone other than college coaches.

    Let me know if you have more questions on this subject. We have been live since 2005, and I think you will find that NOONE has received any unwanted mail or phone calls due to uploading information to our website.

    Best,
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  28. MIGHTY MANFRED THE WONDER

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    Are you saying that everybody on this thread isn't at least a four star player?
     
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  29. 10isDad

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    I wouldn't say you won't get any, you may not get as "many" but I know some 2-stars with several "looks" that don't have preferred colleges listed.
     
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  30. killR4hand

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    Questions for dallas oliver

    Questions for dallasoliver.

    1. When will tennisrecruiting come out with a similar ranking list for international players? :lol:

    2. Looking at the commitment lists, girls or boys, is there any way to tell which players have just been recently added? When the list becomes a few pages long how can you spot the new additions to the list outside of memorizing the list?

    3. Why doesn't tennisrecruiting count the ITA Summer Circuit Tournaments towards their player records? Those tourneys include high school players + mostly incoming college freshmen. Many matches are between 2 players 18 years and younger. The funny part about the ITA Summer Circuit is that it doesn't count towards one's junior record or college record. I guess its just for practice. :mrgreen:
     
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  31. Eastern Technifibre

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    i am a 5 star
     
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  32. MIGHTY MANFRED THE WONDER

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    Don't forget modest, as well.:)
     
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  33. dallasoliver

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    Answers...

    (1) We actually have information on quite a few international kids through our ITF results - but we don't really have enough data to do a very accurate ranking. We do make those lists available to college coaches, however... they can make custom lists with all US and Internataional kids - or, say, kids from Oklahoma, Texas, and Mexico.

    (2) This is something we are working on right now. No dates right now. (I know better than to promise a date!) But we are working on it. Suffice it to say it will not be available in 2008.

    (3) Good question - and one that we get a lot. The issues come down to a) good availability of results and b) sufficient cross-play with known quantities. We have very little data on many of the college kids right now. To include these results, we would need to pick up a lot more data - more than just those tournaments. It is something that we are thinking about and want to do - but we have many other goals as well that we are working towards.

    I hope this helps.

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  34. game set match 46 TIMES!!

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    age is privite but i have 12 coach views and 150 people views...
     
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  35. region2champion

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    i thought you lived in England
     
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  36. ayyhwang

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    why would i say that..? im just saying that unless you put some names under your colleges of interest, you won't get nearly as many as if you do unless your a highly valued player
     
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  37. game set match 46 TIMES!!

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    i live in arizona...
     
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  38. killR4hand

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    More question for dallasoliver

    More question for dallasoliver.

    1. Why don't I see any international players indicating their schools of interest? Do international players have the option to?

    2. For the international players on the commitment lists, who actually inputs that the player has given a verbal to a school? Is it the international player himself, the coach receiving the verbal or does tennisrecruiting do it?
     
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  39. Jdrizzle03

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    dallas do coaches actually look at facebook/myspace pages? and if so should i make one for coaches only?
     
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  40. dallasoliver

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    Answers...

    1) International players do have the ability to upload information, and some of them do. But our appeal and reach is much more within U.S. tennis. Expanding internationally is something we have talked about, but it will be difficult to bring much of what we do to international kids.

    2) It's a combination of all three. Players and coaches both have the ability to set commitments on our website. We also monitor "official" sources such as official athletic department websites and websites of recognized newspapers.

    I hope this helps.

    Best,
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  41. dallasoliver

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    Absolutely they do - and they will find all of your pages - especially pages that have embarrassing material. I have heard several stories about coaches getting bad impressions of kids based on their facebook pages.

    Best,
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  42. Jdrizzle03

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    so would it be smart to keep a clean page just for tennis
     
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  43. ayyhwang

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    i really doubt coaches would be able to see your pages unless you friend them first on facebook. so when you get the friend request just clean up your page- making another page for tennis coaches is just excessive
     
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  44. Jdrizzle03

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    also sry for asking thsi has already probably been answered but do the records reset at the end of the year?
     
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  45. ClarkC

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    There is an FAQ page at tennisrecruiting.net.
     
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  46. IMSPONSOREDBYDUNLOP

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    im only in sixth grade and im a one star recruit i dont know how to check how many coaches have seen me tell me how
     
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  47. BigBUBBA

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    People can see friends and photos without being added...the simple soloution is to just clean up anything naughty and don't have any rude/bad wall posts or anything public
     
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  48. BigBUBBA

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    I have 177 people views but only 1 coach view. I'm a 1 star but can beat 2 stars and 3 stars in my age group.
     
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  49. Tikiman53

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    WHOOO!!!! 22 TOTAL VISITS!!! **** YEAH!@!!!!!


    oh. 0 coach visits...

    damn...

    I'm gonna go sit in the corner of my dark room and write emotional poems...
     
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  50. JMS

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    12 coach visits and i'm not even rated, oh yeah
     
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