"Tomic will be top 5 within 2 years" - Brad Gilbert

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  1. meg0529

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    It would be hilarious if this thread is resurrected by Tomictards a few years from now, when he's GOATing.
     
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    I never really thought I would agree with you 100% on anything but.....You have just made my week, maybe even my year.
     
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  3. Ambivalent

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    Tomic is like a poor man's Murray. Great returns, not much on the serve, and poor shotmaking. He'd be lucky to get into the top 10.
     
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    Even if it happens, I'll be Talk Tennis Guru by then.

    Assistant Mod, maybe.

    I control teh forumz.
     
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    From what I've gathered recently, Tomic's biggest problem is his attitude. If he gets humble and puts in the 'hard yards,' as Lleyton Hewitt once put it, he's got the potential to make top 20. If he doesn't get rid of the arrogance, he'll be relegated to 100-150 perenially.
     
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  8. BLACKOUT

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    Tomic is tall, crafty, looks to be hitting the ball bigger, he definitely has ability, I'd say top 20 at least, Dimitrov and Berankis can just hit bigger than him consistently and they have good tennis IQ as well
     
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  9. slice bh compliment

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    I don't want to sound like a cynical old guy who longs for his younger days, buuut...

    if tennis turns into Monfils and Tomic from top to bottom, I'm officially falling out of love with the pro game.

    I just don't see the appeal.

    I'm just going to have to hold on to the current Rafa/Roger hegemony and cherish the memories of the days when tennis was aesthetically pleasing. I'm talking about Laver, Ashe, Nastase, Newk, Nastase, Borg, Mac, Noah, Becker, Cashy, Edberg, Pete, Stich, Rafter and Guga.

    -cynical old guy, rooting for Dimitrov and Berankis to beat up on Tomic.
     
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  10. HackersRUs

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    All around you, you just have to listen.
    so why is the 'cynical old guy' dead set against Tomic?

    Monfils, Ok. Ball bashing mental midgets ahoy, but Tomic?

    The arrogant littel twerp plays some quite old school tennis.

    And Michael Stich aeshetically pleasing tennis? You serious????
     
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    Well the ****-Dog just straight setted the 31st seed Feliciano Lopez.

    Looks like he could be the real deal. Will be interesting to see his game up against Nadal tomorrow and see if he can avoid a massive beat down
     
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    brad gilbert, and predictions. square peg, meet round hole.
     
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    Duran Duran called and want you to join the band.
     
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    watched this guy tonight, already my 2nd fav behind fed. Plays like me except he is good
     
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    Berankis destroyed Nalbandian, told you this guy will be the real deal.
     
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    same her.. well said
     
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    From the "Brisbane Times":

    I can bring down Nadal, says Tomic

    Dream believer Bernard Tomic insists he can upstage history-chasing top seed Rafael Nadal in their third-round Australian Open blockbuster on Saturday night.

    No Australian man in almost a decade has conquered a world No.1, but Tomic believes anything is possible after upsetting Spanish 31st seed Feliciano Lopez 7-6 (7-4) 7-6 (7-3) 6-3 on Thursday to reach the last 32 of a grand slam event for the first time.

    "I'm hitting the ball great, my confidence is up there, especially after two matches, I played a left-hander before I played him, that's always good," Tomic said.

    Advertisement: Story continues below "There's not much weaknesses (in his game but) I don't think he'll like my game.

    "He'll like the players that give him a lot of time, a lot of rally shots. The way I mix it up, he's not going to like."

    Not since Mark Philippoussis shot down Andre Agassi in the fourth round at Wimbledon en route to the 2003 final at the All England Club has an Australian brought down the men's world No.1.

    But while Philippoussis was already a grand slam finalist and accomplished grasscourt exponent, Tomic will enter his clash with Nadal as an 18-year-old wildcard ranked 198 places behind the reigning French Open, Wimbledon and US Open champion.

    Nadal has won his past 23 grand slam matches and is bidding to become the first man since Rod Laver in 1969 to hold all four major titles simultaneously.

    Tomic, though, is undeterred and earnestly believes he can stop the Spanish juggernaut.

    "Oh, I believe so," Tomic said.

    "I mean, it's an opportunity that I get. He's the world No.1. I'll just have a go.

    "When you step out against a player like that, you don't have nothing to lose.

    "But I'm not going to go and win this match if I go out there and play not to lose. I've got to play to win."

    Nadal will enter the marquee match-up a raging favourite but, carrying all the pressure, Nadal is nevertheless on guard.

    "He's very young, he's playing well I think, he has a very very good future ... hopefully not for the next round," Nadal said after trouncing American qualifier Ryan Sweeting 6-2 6-1 6-1 in his second-round encounter.

    Nadal said a prime-time showdown with Tomic on Rod Laver Arena would be a nice occasion and recalled his days as a teenager himself taking on dual grand slam winner Lleyton Hewitt in Melbourne.

    "I remember when I was here when I was 16, 17, I played against Lleyton (twice and lost both times). If you win, it's unbelievable. If not, it's OK," he said.

    Even if he loses against Nadal, Tomic is guaranteed a rankings rise of about 20 spots from his current career-high place just inside the world's top 200.

    The teenager's landmark win over Lopez - a two-time Wimbledon quarter-finalist and Queen's Club victor over Nadal last year - more than made up for fellow Australian Alicia Molik's 6-4 6-1 second-round loss to women's 13th seed Nadia Petrova.
     
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  19. vive le beau jeu !

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    ... then please do it, kid !!! that would be cool. :)
     
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    looks like a straight set drubbing is in order for Tomic. If the versatile "Swiss Maestro" has 14-8 record record against Nadal, I dont see what Tomic's variety will bring to the table.
     
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    Go Tomić, take El Toro by the horns!
     
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  22. Xemi666

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    Looks like the victory against Feliciano has got to his head to me. He's going to find out that Nadal is a whole different animal :twisted:
     
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    He isn't really cocky, IMO. He is just trying to be optimistic for the match. I just don't think that he has sufficient variety in his game, at least not enough to trouble Nadal.
     
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  24. kOaMaster

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    I call this overconfident.
     
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  25. morten

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    Lopez can play so bad sometimes.. I do not believe Tomic is so good
     
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    From my point of view Tomic should be pushing top 10 in the future. In the space of 1 year his movement has improved quite a bit and his groundies have gotten alot bigger. He's added 20kmph onto his serve in the space of 1 year- he's still got a bit of growing/filling out to do as well, once he gets a bit stronger he will be a beast. The kid is a smart player. His backhand slice would be one of the best on the tour already. He just needs to keep improving his movement, he's got all the shots already.
     
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  27. namelessone

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    Well his attitude is great for a young player but let's see how he walks the walk when he is eating spin all day long.

    I saw some highlights from his match with lopez and if he slices Nadal all day I don't see anything good for him.
     
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    A two-handed backhand.
     
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    Another rubbish prediction by Gilbert. You rarely get to No. 5 with no class...

    Nadal will toy with him in the next round. It won't be pretty!
     
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  31. dandelion_smiley

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    even if hes overconfident its better to say "I believe I can win" instead of "well Ill just enjoy the moment and see what happens".

    If he doesnt believe, might as well go home
     
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  32. namelessone

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    He is home, he's Australian :)
     
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  33. slice bh compliment

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    Didn't think I could be sucked into not liking a player because of his 'look', buuuut... the glasses remind me of Hewitt's mother. That is not good on ya, not good on him...not good on anyone. To quote the great Paddy Rafter, ''sorrymate''.

    One one hand, I love that he thinks he can beat Rafa.
    On the other....I think he's making a career out of 'fake it 'til you make it'.
     
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  34. dandelion_smiley

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    doesnt have to go far, then :)
     
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    At least we can give Tomic a little credit for taking down on of Rafa's patsy Spaniard compatriots who would have likely just bent over at the net for Rafa if they had made it to the next round.

    Sure I have no faith that he stands a snowballs chance in h3ll of winning the match but its comforting to know hes going out there with the right attitude and will try his hardest.

    Anything is better than Lopez or Verdasco going out there saying "Mi papa es el mejor de la historia usted puede ganar!!"
     
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  36. ksbh

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    I posted this in the match thread but it's better suited here.

    Don't think Tomic stands a chance against Rafa but refreshing attitude from him. We need more of Tomic kind of guys and less of Andy 'I don't mind losing 8 finals to Federer' Roddick kind of losers with such a poor attitude & self-belief!

    For just bringing this kind of attitude, I hope Tomic wins a set or 2!
     
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    Yeah that Roddick, he's only been top 10 for 9 years, what a loser.
     
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    Someone with that attitude is a winner in your book? You have pretty low standards!

    It explains why Roddick is a 1 slam wonder though. If you can't believe you can win, you'll never win. I'd rather pull for guys that have self-belief like Tomic than losers like Roddick.

     
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    Bruce38 ... you might be surprised to hear this but ... agreed X 100!

    :)

     
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    Does Tomic have some technical issues with his serve? Seems hurried and awkward at times.
     
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    So you pull for guys like Donald Young who believed he was going to win 8 grandslams and announced it in an interview? That's is self belief! :)
     
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    Yes, I'd rather that than pull for someone who declares to the world that he would like to lose 8 grand slam finals to one of his chief rivals!

    It's exactly that kind of attitude that made me feel Andy Roddick deserved no respect when Federer pulled the 15 jacket after beating him in the Wimbledon 2009 final! That was a disgraceful act by giant nose but Roddick deserved no better!

     
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    Easily the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard BG say. Tomic is a pusher and I'd wager his career high rank will be around 20-30.
     
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  44. meg0529

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    If Tomic wins a set, or god forbid two, that won't look too good on Rafa. Even if Tomic pulls out his best performance to date, if Rafa is to win this tournament, at most they will have a close set. No offense to Tomic.
     
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    Dandelion is bruce38?

    If i had to guess I would have guessed eternally_damned. :razz:

    Too bad for him he couldn't keep the "philosophy" out of his kournocopia id.:lol:
     
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    I don't know Tomic suprised me yesterday against Lopez. It seems like he has an adaptive game similar to Simon. He does push, counterpunch and can inject pace for a winner when the time is right.

    He is very quirky but who wasn't when they were 18 or now?

    If he can take a set from Ralph I will be very suprised. But hell I hope he beats Ralph! Go Tomic!
     
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    There is a difference between self belief and delusion. Just thought I throw that out there...

    You seem to get very worked up over how certain pro athletes behave. It is as if is a personal affront to you or something.
     
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    While what you are saying is true, if a player has no self-confidence, or as in the case of Roddick, is happy to tie the shoe laces of his opponent, he should just stay the hell home. Why waste the time of other people who actually pay money to come see the matches? As Goober is saying, and perhaps rightly so, maybe Tomic is being delusional but I'd rather that attitude than Andy Roddick's!

    Bruce38 wasn't too bright at all, unfortunately, and Dandelion is showing all of the same characteristics! :)

    ROFL Goober! Good observation! :)
     
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    That may be what Roddick says, but I highly doubt he actually believes that. If he did, there would be no point in trying against Fed, which Roddick always does - usually to no avail, but still.

    He still tries and works his ass off against Fed, and implying he doesn't because of one soundbite seems disrespectful to the guy. In his case, actions speak louder than words, and even though he comes up short most of the time I've never seen Roddick not go down swinging against Federer, no matter what he says before or after.
     
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    I dont know if its been mentioned before, but Moya apparently tweeted somethin like: "watch out for Tomic, potential GS winner in the near future".

    Have never seen Tomic play, hopefully he's gonna showcase his stuff and 'potential' against RafaYel.....

    btw, why in hell cant announcers say Rafa-el??? Everytime, its RafaYell!
     

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