Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by tusharlovesrafa, Oct 20, 2012.
That's the way to go rafa!LOL at the bolded part!
Toni is probably just lowering the expectations. Providing Nadal rests sufficiently then I don't really see why he won't attain something close to a peak level for a little while longer.
This reminds me of the end of 2009 when Rafa was able bluff everyone into underestimating him into retirement, and the he became the only play ever to win slams on clay, grass and hardcourt in the same year (2010). I can only imagine how much that hurt Talk Tennis. Hopefully this time he won't win 3 slams, but 4. The whole 'layoff' thing really helps Rafa remain the underdog.
I think a good rest, and lowered expectations from others can work to his advantage, but I do think age is a factor in how well you bounce back from an absence. IMO, he's still young enough and keen enough to do it this time, but I think he'd struggle if he needed another extended absence in a couple of year's time.
That's probaby right. As Rafa fans on this forum have alreay pointed out it's a guarantee that he'll win AO en RG next year. Toni knows this.
I personally think Nadal winning Roland Garros is the only guarantee in professional sport, barring Nadal's parents divorcing.
And also Pico splitting with Nadal ..
Toni is just lowering expectations in case he doesnt win anymore GS but i still think hes gonna win RG next year
Toni is right. It is going to be near impossible for Nadal to get back to the top or win anymore slams. They know it,and are not getting their hopes up because they know he's done.
Nadal at 80% can still win Roland Garros.
Not with ******* around he can't. There are other players like Delpo and even Murray who can give him fits as well.
The only year Djokovic gave Nadal trouble on clay was 2011, when he was basically Super-Man. He'll be 26 next year when the French Open happens, 2 years past his peak.
And there's no way Murray can do anything to Nadal on Clay, that's his worst surface. I doubt he'd beat even 31 year-old Federer on Clay.
I disagree. With Nadal practically put out to pasture,and Andy starting his peak I think he can beat Nadal on clay. He did take a set off of him in MC last year,and has always given Nadal tough matches. He will end up beating Nadal more often than not in the future.
Maybe, but not on Clay. It's his weakest surface by a significant margin and Nadal's strongest, again by a significant margin. Not to mention, Nadal is the better overall player. And it's not like Nadal's 40, he's just one year older than Murray is.
yeah youre right the second set that Murray won in the MC encounter was 6-2 but then again Rafa won the third 6-2 or 6-1 but still
Djokovic will never get to 17 Slams. Suck on that.
Well played, sir.
I agree. The positive is that Rafa loves being the underdog. It's a situation that suits him perfectly. He likes to lower people's expectations in general. The negative is: time is ruthless and it's not easy to win titles after 27 years old although currently title winners tend to be older than they used to be.
Only because the big 4 are so dominant.
I don't know man. Look at this year for instance. 59 titles have been won so far. None of those were won by anyone under 21. Only 2 titles were won by a 21 year old (Raonic ). 1 title was won by a 22 year old (Nishikori). 6 titles by 23 year old (Klizan, Dolgo, Cilic and Delpo). 5 titles by a 24 old guy. All of that makes 14 titles. That leaves 45 titles won by players of 25 or older. That's not a very balanced ratio. + 11 titles have been won by players in their 30s (the oldest winner being Haas at 34).
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