Toni Nadal out of touch with tennis reality

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  1. Crisstti

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    Is it me or does that seem like something Google translated?.

    Cannot find any sources in Portuguese or Spanish to see if there's some mistranslation...

    Yeah right. He still won them, and beating the best at that. Which wasn't the way some other top player managed to win all 4...

    That doesn't have much to do with it being fair or not.
     
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  2. Crisstti

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    It's odd that Toni mentions Rafa's and Fed's ages as reason for them not being friends, and then says he prefers to be friends with guys like Monaco, Ferrer and Feliciano Lopez. Aren't they all close to 30 as well?.
     
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    Federer has made more FO finals than Nadal has USO and AO finals combined. Try again. Thank you.
     
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    nope, I'll give you that. Judy is very articulate. It is unfortunate that Djokovic is coming from a 'partisan' family but it is what it is. it's not his fault. at the end I think we all have some interesting characters in our own respective families :).

    Nobody is perfect, except Clarky who can't do anything wrong plus she is always right :twisted:
     
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  5. Crisstti

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    Yep. Finals.
     
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    Assuming these quotes are accurate, it goes to show that not everyone who is good at doing or teaching is good at commenting.
     
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  7. VPhuc tennis fan

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    Slow even MORE the courts. That's what he was trying to say. Let's play underwater, for instance. How about molasses? Slow enough for ya?
    Anything where fewer than 100 strokes/point are considered ILLEGITIMATE!
     
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    Jiggity jiggity boo.
     
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    lol, make tennis players to play tennis using badminton shuttlecocks instead of tennis balls. Rafa back to #1 in no time :).
     
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    Making this clear

    I have to make this clear. I think that Toni is a phenomenal coach. I opened this thread because I just couldn't understand that someone like him who is around tennis so much for so long can't see that fast court tennis doesn't exist anymore and that the courts have been slowed down hugely across the board in the last 10-20 years. Why would he say that the majority are 'super fast' - it just doesn't make sense.
     
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    No he's not. He has a diarrhea of the mouth too. According to him,Andy and Cvac are going to carry tennis,and have a Fed/Nadal level rivalry. They are the future of tennis,and Fed and Nadal are now irrelevant. You don't see the bs is saying something like that? Especially about Roger Federer?


    And sorry,what he did in Madrid DID mean something,and if I said just exactly what I think of him it would get me banned for sure.
     
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    Funny coming from a guy whose favorite players best surface is slower than slow hard court. :lol:
     
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    hm, not sure Vajda said that about Nole and Mandy but OK, if he said that he is not that far off considering the fact that Rog is 31yo and Rafa is getting injured all the time. therefore, Novak and Mandy in their prime do become 'future of tennis'.

    As for Vajda's celebration I couldn't care less. Anybody can celebrate any way they want to. It's not like they celebrated in front of Rafa's house, not sure what a big deal is. They celebrated in front of their hotel and Cvac wasn't even there :confused:.
     
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    yup, you are right, I just tried to be funny but I guess I failed :). No H.C. left btw except Cinci and Dubai.
     
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    Yes he was there. He is right there in the video cheering him on. Do you need glasses,Evan? Lol.



    So,you honestly believe than Andy and Cvac are going to carry tennis at the same level as Fed and Nadal have? You believe their rivalry will be as popular or desired? Do you believe they will ever have as many fans,or draw as many new fans to the game? I really hope not because I will have to question your sanity if you do.


    And Andy and Cvac are only a year younger than Nadal. Yes,I know Nadal has a lot of mileage on him,but your boy has racked up the miles himself over the past 2 years. Just how long do you think he is going to go winning everything in sight and making finals? His style of play is highly physical as well,you know.
     
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    I never said that they (Nole/Mandy) will carry tennis or be ever as popular as Rog/Rafa. That will be very hard to achieve but also tennis is not a popularity contest (not to me). Usually the more you win the more popular you become. Rafa's millage is a big problem tho regardless of his young age of 26. Novak also plays a very psychical tennis but he has never suffered from any serious injuries. Mandy was out for almost a year with his wrist injury.

    All I'm saying is that Vajda wasn't too off with what he said. as simple as that. Btw, I don't want Rog to retire and I do want to see Rafa 100% healthy as I love tennis and love top 4 rivalries. The thing is Fed will slowly fade away and not sure what to make of Rafa's health etc.

    As for that celebration (with or w/o Cvac), really not sure why it bothers you. I said already they didn't celebrate in front of Nadal's house.
     
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    Maybe you didn't,but The Car Humper did.


    Yes it is or else we wouldn't have favorites,or fans. And let's face it,every sport needs stars to thrive,and Andy and Cvac are not Fed/Nadal level stars.


    Not yet,but with his style of play it's bound to happen sooner or later. He beats his body up too.


    No,he was way off with that statement because Andy and Cvac will never be at at the level Fed/Nadal are as he suggested they will be. Never. It will not happen,and they cannot be expected to carry the sport the way Fed/Nadal have for many years.



    No,but they threw a block party out in front of the players hotel where everyone,including Nadal and his team could see them. They made such a ruckus out there that the Bryan's were posting on Twitter about it because it woke them up,and even Tweeted pictures of it. It was ridiculous,and totally disrepectful for them to do what they did. Trash is as trash does,though.
     
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    Dear Clarky (didn't want to quote you again),
    just love your wording (Car Humper, lol, hilarious). However we disagree here and that's it. You are still my imaginary internet gf. just can't help it as I like your style.

    I said tennis is not a popularity contest to me but if you think it is that's fine with me. Rafa is as popular as Roger if we judge their popularity based on Facebook. They both have around 10 million followers on FB. I think both Cvac/Mandy have around 3 millions or something like that.

    To me the most fascinating rivalry in tennis history is JMac/Borg, but again that's just my personal opinion/preference as most of Fed/Rafa matches have been very one sided (except indoors). We'll see what future brings. Some new kids will show up (hopefully soon) and we'll start all over again.
     
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    Exactly.

    Though Clarky is right about Djokovic's parents. They're really annoying, but I never saw Vajda do anything out of place.

    I have nothing against Nadal, I don't know why you seem to think i'm a Rafa hater or something :-?. I don't like his style but I respect him a lot and think he is a fantastic tennis players (one of the best ever). And I wouldn't care if his parents or Toni where celebrating like that. If you're not doing it in front of your rival or his team it's fine for me.
     
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    Grass and Hard Courts have been slowed down over the last 10 years significantly so I am not sure what Uncle Toni is talking about.

    I prefer that ATP speed up the courts a small amount as we have too much baseline bashing and not enough attacking and net play in the game now.
     
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    Molasses court. That's what uncle Toni wants.
    Reason: For Rafa to rack up another 100 GS titles before his knees give out (or in, or whatever). For Rafa to be considered as the ...GOD (GOAT is of course way inferior than GOD, don't you think?)
     
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    But he was doing it in front of his rival, wasn't he?.

    I would think he means most of the tour is played on hard courts = favours Fed over Rafa. Something that has been pointed out here as well.
     
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    No, he was NOT. do you understand words coming out of my mouth? Rafito stupido was not there.

    No he wasn't celebrating in front of his rival. Get some brain please.
    really not sure with you Rafa women being so sensitive to how players/their teams are celebrating their victories against Biceps Steroid Punk. Who gives a ****? is Rafa Qeen of England, NO, he is just a Spanish uneducated dude who can somehow play tennis, winning by pushing and griding with zero tennis skills. No, djokovic was not celebrating his victory in front of Rafa's hotel room. womentards being obsessed with Butpicker, are the worst **** base in tennis history. All you know is Rafa's looks and his biceps and your pretentious Rafa can't do wrong ****, he is da best at everything. just pathetic.
     
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    Yes he was. He was out IN FRONT OF THE PLAYERS HOTEL FOR ALL TO SEE. Do you understand now,or do you need me to draw you a picture?


    He is no more uneducated than Cvac is. Last time I checked,Cvac wasn't graduating with a Ph.D in Neuroscience. He is no more educated than Nadal is. Did he even finish school? Nadal did.


    Anyway,your entire post was really pushing it,and beyond nasty. Did you have a bad day or something? I think you kind of went overboard with this one,Evan.


    And why do you call him "Spanish" as if it's an insult? Do you have something against Spaniards?
     
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    WTH would Federer and Nadal have in common aside from both being great tennis players? Nadal likes to hang around other Spanish people, which makes sense since he is Spanish. All of his good friends on tour are Spanish players.
     
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  26. Crisstti

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    I don't know, football?. Not my point anyway. I'm saying, them not being friends cannot be because of the age difference because Rafa is friends with several guys around Feds age (as the guys Toni names as examples, for that matter).

    Spanish speaking, I think you might mean. And Murray (unless you want to count him as Spanish speaking, which I guess you could).
     
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  27. Prisoner of Birth

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    Indoors have been one-sided too :)
     
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    This. Lopez,Monaco,Ferrer are all nearly the same age as Fed.

    Does Murray speak Spanish ? Guess he would have picked up some since he went to train in Spain at a young age.
     
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    Not much. He was in an international academy and everyone spoke english there. Each time he tried to speak spanish with some people, they answered in english. As a consequence, his spanish is very limited.
     
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  30. Crisstti

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    They are, so that's a weird comment by Toni. For that matter, Moya is older than Fed by a few years.

    I don't know what Murray's level is, but he surely speaks some. He lived in Spain a couple years, hangs out with several Spanish speaking players, Danny Valverdu on his team. And there's this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18603900
     
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    It could be that the reason they answered in English was because his Spanish was so limited...:confused:
     
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    Obviously, you are not good right right from the beginning. If you want to improve your language skills, better speak with people who are patient enough to let you try....
     
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    Yes, age is not the issue, it is more the fact that Nadal hangs out with mostly Spanish speaking players, this is no secret. Andy Murray and Nadal do not hang out as far as I have read. They are friendly but Nadal hangs out with the Spanish speaking players.
     
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    We are dealing with a poor near-slamless crooked-tooth Scottish man who endured deep trauma whilst a kid in school.
     
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    Meanwhile, Murray is laughing all the way to his bank.
     
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    He had his loot stashed away at the Shanghai central branch of HSBC, which is not insured by the Feds.
     
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    They do hang out at tournaments.

    Even Rafa talked once in some interview about a language barrier when asked in he and Fed were friends.
     
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    Exactly. I really wish people would stop spouting bs about Nadal's supposed friendship with Andy Murray. It's getting ridiculous at this point.


    *Sighs* No.They.Do.Not. They are not friends so would you please stop insisting that they are. Nadal does not have any friends on the tour that are not Spanish speaking. Why do keep perpetuating this bs? Seriously?
     
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    Really, are we going to have this discussion again?. They say they're friends. Go and tell them they're lying if you want...
    Anyway, here we were just talking about them "hanging out during tournaments", which they do. Have you missed Murray posting on Facebook the results of their PES games?.
     
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