Top-10 Duke v UVA x2 @3pm Friday

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  1. mikej

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    two good Duke-UVA battles tomorrow, should be fun

    i'm not going to go for a line by line prediction for the men, since the Duke lineup has been too shifty lately due to injuries etc - Clemson's line by line in the other thread was fairly reasonable though - and i don't know quite enough about a few of UVA's women to do a line by line there either

    i think basically the matches come down to this:
    Duke men and UVA women need dubs pts - with dubs pts in hand Duke men probably have a 1/4-1/3 chance of winning and UVA women probably have a 1/3-1/2 chance of winning

    neither UVA mens dubs or Duke womens dubs has been anywhere near dominant this season, so plenty of potential for those interesting scenarios to happen

    if UVA men or Duke women win dubs, 95% chance they close it out in singles, possibly in 6-1 or similar undramatic fashion

    anyway, good luck to your teams clark-automator-and-co., should be a fun afternoon and it would be a pretty landmark day for either school's programs if they won both
     
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    Big weekend for all. ACC title could be determined by todays results.
     
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    yikes still no wietoska for duke

    this will likely not be a pleasant match on the mens side
     
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    UVA/Duke - Live Stats - Looks like you can watch video with a subscription - Video
     
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    yeah if duke wins dubs i might buy the one month to check out singles action

    in which case i'll try to share the wealth - don't know if they'll allow simultaneous logins, but we'll see
     
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    duke women looking not so great in dubs, not surprising

    i think they'll drop #2 singles, so will be a close one
     
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    i caved and got it for 10 bucks

    but...looks like i can't really hide my credit card info under the 'my account' section...so offer withdrawn unfortunately

    jarmere with a hard-fought hold to get uva up 6-5 on the deciding dubs match...cunha to serve
     
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    love hold

    6-6 and courtney to serve
     
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    an opening:

    double fault then mengel up the line winner off a big first serve

    0-30

    another double fault 0-40
     
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    break for duke!

    both uva guys up at the net volleying back to mengel

    after 5-6 laser groundstrokes jarmere catches the frame on a volley

    mengel serving for it!
     
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    shake my head every time I see M.Franks ranked #1 in the country playing #3 for Virginia ...
     
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    30-15 courtney frames a return and he's getting frustrated

    40-15 wicked cunha poach

    here we go!
     
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    dubs pt to duke!

    mengel with an up the line laser that jarmere can't handle at the net
     
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    ok, with duke up 1-0...there's some hope...i think...

    cunha can win

    mengel caaaan but is not a favorite for sure...domijan has to be a bit off a la vs thacher last yr

    hemmeler has been good this year but he's not a great 3 when he fills in for wietoska, likely frank in straights

    saba is a definite underdog vs courtney, but as chronicled above his serve may not be 100% and he's a bit frustrated, we'll see if saba can make it interesting

    duke needs a tahir win at 5, i don't know who the favorite is there

    marchese has been out of form and uriguen is tough, this would be a steal


    sooooooo yeah, need cunha and tahir and a little bit of luck

    go duke!
     
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    one thing i will say:

    i didn't see a single line call questioned in those few games i watched, and there were some well placed serves

    i think there's a level of respect b/t these two teams that isn't present when duke and unc play, for example

    it's constant arguing when those two teams play
     
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    hammond gets the nod at 6 - given how he's been playing in dubs i'm cool with that

    court 6 strangely does not appear to have a video feed haha

    if that becomes the deciding match i'm clearly going to raise hell with duke athletics
     
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    quick breaks for domijan and frank

    (frank not impressed at all by hemmeler's S&V attempts)
     
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    cunha vs jarmere is really a great battle already

    2-1 cunha

    baseliners going at it, but not at all passively, both guys trying to assert themselves and both have finished off a handful of pts at the net already

    i hope it gets to finish, and doesn't go to some 10-pt breaker or something
     
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    shane breaks after a long tahir service game

    uva striking first blood on a few courts - duke needs 2+ first sets badly to keep spirits alive i think
     
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    Having done a few men's match the respect seems to be higher with them versus the ladies, although I have noticed having an official in a chair versus roving also greatly improves the line calling and arguing.
     
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    hemmeler breaks back - frank got overruled calling a blistering return out - he didn't put up a whole lot of an argument fwiw

    i don't know if hemmeler has the weapons to take down frank in the long haul, bit i love the way this guy plays - great spirit fighting back when he's playing up out of position against the #1 player in the country - glad he's around for 3.5 more years
     
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    yeah always a chair on every court @ duke

    still, i've seen it pretty out of control, esp. with unc (and miami for some reason) in the past
     
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    domi up 5-2

    mengel playing fine, but he looks locked in
     
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    courtney breaks with a big backhand up-the-line

    5-3 serving for it
     
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    and frank very much back in control, hemmeler's flurry of winners appears to be over
     
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    #1 - one of these guys will eventually cramp up and/or die - no breaks - crazy impressive points
    #2 - domi 6-2 (hard to tell, looks like mengel is on verge of competing - domi just needs to make a few less perfect shots)
    #3 - frank 6-2 (frank should cruise in 2nd)
    #4 - saba breaks back - serving at 4-5!
    #5 - shane 6-3 (but tightly contested)
    #6 - scoreboard is all i can see

    duke very much needs sets at 1,6
     
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    #1 - 4-4 - both players still alive
    #2 - UVA 6-2, 1-1
    #3 - UVA 6-2, 1-0
    #4 - saba breaks at love - will serve 6-5!
    #5 - tahir breaks - 2-1 second set!
    #6 - DUKE 6-4 - wish i could see your skills hammond!
     
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    2 incredible break points fought off at 4-4 so far for cunha - back to deuce - man jarmere has come a long way under boland - he has made cunha fight like hell for most of his holds
     
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    matches soon to finish:
    #3 - 2-6, 0-3

    maybe soon???:
    #2 - 2-6, 2-2

    will never finish:
    #1 - 5-5 - both living

    friggen battles:
    #4 - 7-5, 0-1 - coach stokke focusing efforts on this court and #6
    #6 - 6-4, 1-2
    #5 - 3-6, 3-2 (up a break)
     
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    domi gets a 2nd set brk

    could be 2-1 uva soon

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    also go duke women - fighting hard after looking terrible dubs and beginning of singles
     
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    jarmere serving 5-6, 0-30

    edit: wow 4 incredible 1-2 punch pts from jarmere, to the tb we go!
     
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    jarmere with a mini, 3-2

    edit: 2-5 jarmere up cunha serving

    edit2: 5-4 jarmere serving
     
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    jarmere 7-6 (7-4) - great play bu UVA's captain - cunha didn't give it to him at all - i never count out cunha in this type of match but he has his hands full today
     
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    tahir serving for 2nd set at 15-30

    edit: break for shane, sloppy errors from tahir, 5-5
     
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    2-1 UVA - i gotta run unfortunately - hope Duke makes me proud (if not on the mens side then the womens side) - but good show for the men even if they cant get this done
     
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    Jenkins clinches with a dominant 2nd set. 4-3 Virginia in a tight team match with really no close individual scores...only one set went tiebreak.
     
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    Solid work by Jenkins even if I didn't get to see that second set - he looked impressive

    I'll take 3-4 vs UVA with a missing #3 and a Cunha loss - makes me believe it's realistic to take these guys down later in the year

    Congrats to UVA men and duke women - solid singles performances by both
     
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    UVa - Duke women's match story.
     
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    Looks like the injury to chilli was huge. Too bad.
     
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    Maybe - who knows Who would've won those last two three setters if the team match had still been on the line

    I never trust post-clinch results
     
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    SoCal10s...you post this everywhere and it's ridiculous. Jenkins, a 3rd year with a lot more college level experience and ranked #3, is playing ahead of him as he has all year. And, he has been lights out for UVA there...witness the closeout of Cunha on the road in this match. In most matches, Domijan (2nd year) and formerly ranked #1 in the country, has played ahead of Frank (not Franks) all year. Domijan (injury) played virtually no pre-season tournaments and Jenkins very few--they each played a few Challengers so didn't build up ranking points. If you actually watch them play, factor in the experience/seniority factor--the placement is justified and reasonable. A case can be made for any of the placements, but they aren't obligateed to blindly follow the rankings, especially given Jenkins is all of 2 slots behind him and having an exceptional season so far at #1.
     
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    I know.. if I were the coach Frank would be playing #3 also.. freshman must pay their dues ... but Frank could play that #1 position with no problems.. he's so good..
     
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    Agreed. Also, he's played at #3 all season for the most part. I know another team not ranked near as high that did the same thing starting some strong freshman lower in the line up and they have not changed. Now they are ranked. The polls don't dictate line-ups, coaches do.

    Frank can prove himself out in the year end NCAA individual championship tournament. One can try an argue he did so at the indoors, but that person would be an idiot. The indoors is a very, very nice championship but can not be compared the the year end NCAA individual title.
     
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    UVA looking good this year. This year could be their year and become the NCAA champions.
     
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