Top Spin 4 Discussion Thread

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  1. jamesblakefan#1

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    The same 2K that got outbid for the NFL exclusive license by EA. 2K also canceled their NHL series due to loss of money. That stuff doesn't grow on trees, you know.

    If Wimbledon has an exclusive license w/ EA like the NFL does, there isn't much 2K can do about it.
     
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    For manual preperation, do you just tap the right or left button as soon as you see which side the shot is on? Or do you wait sometimes?
     
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    Are you serious? Wow, people are naive. Yeah, they were too lazy to make a phone call..lol. No. Wimbledon is extremely hard to deal with when it comes to licensing. It is not nearly as easy as you are insinuating. Regardless, who cares? Tennis games (well, the rare good ones) are best enjoyed against a human opponent. If the grass court in the game does not say Wimbledon, it's not really going to affect me in the least.
     
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    My keyboard keys are left shift for leftside, and right shift for rightside, a quick tap is all you need, keep in mind you can switch to the alternate side if you decide to change your shot selection from backhand to forehand and visa versa. Delay your choice when you are running down balls whether they are hard dtl or drop shots, you will get to the ball quicker. Make sure you complete all the tutorial tips, and spend a bit of time in the practise area-groundstrokes to get a feel using manual prep and playing around with shots.
     
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    Wow, you actually play Full Ace with the keyboard? That must be even harder. I use a gamepad. When not grab a cheap Logitech gamepad? It will make the game more enjoyable IMO.

    I did all the tutorials...Very helpful. This is also the first tennis game where it's actually fun to hit off the ball machine. I dont think any console game can come close to the depth and gameplay of Full Ace. I also tried Dream
    Match Tennis and it's good too, but I didn't like how you have to wait until almost hitting before pressing the button to hit. The timing was throwing me off. I think Full Ace is the best.
     
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  6. flyinghippos101

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    It's hard to convey sarcasm over the internet...

    I'm just saying since they had Wimbledon in Top Spin 2, licensing Wimbledon may have been possible but was a disappointing that they didn't have it in TS4.
     
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  7. LameTennisPlayer

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    Yes, I use the keyboard, but I've been playing it for a long time. Don't get me wrong it took me a long time to win one point on easy, let alone a game then a set. I'm just happy to use the keyboard for now, may try it with a gamepad later at some point. I also agree it is the best tennis simulation game atm and great value, after trying every other game on the market.
     
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  8. Power Player

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    What I heard happened is that EA spent a ton on it for Grand Slam tennis. Thus pricing out the competition. They do this a lot (Madden buying exclusive rights to the NFL). It's lame and has really hurt sports video games in general.
     
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  9. stoutman11

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    Electronic Arts is the largest or second largest video game publisher in the world with activision being the other. EA has a substantial edge in assets and money. They more than likely have an exclusive deal with wimbledon for a certian amount of time. Thus top spin is left in the cold when it comes to that. EA actually tried to aquire 2k=TakeTwo (ttwo) about a year or so ago but take two wouldnt sell.

    Anyhow Top spin is looking to be the best bet for a tennis simulation on a current console. Virtua Tennis games can be very fun however they are very arcade like and more of a pick up and play with friends game. Although top spin is missing quite a bit of features that would make a complete tennis game.

    I would really love if they either Take Two or EA would make an ATP game only. With the top 50-100 players in the world. Dont waste any money on the ladies players. I honestly dont care about retired players or lengends either save that money.... Like Nba 2k11 or Madden they are very official and try to be very sim. Give me the top 50-100 male players in the world. Give me the top tennis sponsors, the real outfits, and equipment down to the strings. Give me challenges (spot shot) like in smash court. Give me all the grand slams, all the masters series and the actual stadiums they are played in.... they can make up stuff for the 500 series and lower- that is fine to save money. Give me real player motion and animation for all of them. Bring in 2-3 guys to motion capture the top-50 guys on tour. Watch a game or set and mimic these guys in a motion cap studio! please.

    Now for the complainers wanting the WTA maybe if the ATP game does well they could take turns releasing the game every other year like in Toronto and Montreal. so every other year you would get a new release with wta and Atp.
     
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    Prediction for the Aussie Open final.

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    Found this on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF0TeNDTp7c

    Looks good but some of the animations and the sound effects are kinda...iffy, but they still have a bit before release. The game will probably be a whole lot diferent than this demo
     
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    I also hope that there's options for day/night matches this time, since the AO final is during the night. But apparently not. :?
     
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    I liked it a lot..it looked good. But a little choppy at times. I saw a lot of signature shots, which was nice.
     
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  15. Mansewerz

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    Wtf, this needs night matches, especially at the US Open. If you're having more interactive crowds, you need night matches.

    I wish EA would just get on their horse and make a PS3/360 version. It's sad when Grand Slam tennis has better signature styles and technique than Topspin.
     
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  16. canuckfan

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    Impressively close! How did you get the game if it's supposed to come out in march?
     
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    Just play Topspin 1 just before. Forgot how amazing that game is. So simple, yet so fun. Much better than Topspin 3 IMO
     
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  18. jamesblakefan#1

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    I don't have the game, it's from Topspin's Facebook page.
     
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  19. dr_punk

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    These topspins are a joke. I always go back to the 1st topspin on the original xbox console, and that is far beyond better than any tennis game that has come since.

    This franchise and others are a shame to what tennis is represented as in video game culture. Truly.
     
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  20. flyinghippos101

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  21. Mansewerz

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    Finally, some more content.

    That said, Tennis Elbow 2011 is badass.
     
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  22. flyinghippos101

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    Anyone buying at launch? I think I'll hold off till I hear from some player reviews. You can't trust the big name reviewers these days.
     
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  23. Tennisguy3000

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    As a former complete addict of Top Spin 1 & 2 I am looking forward to all of your comments on this one. Looks like a March 15 release, wish it was now with the wet outdoor courts in my area http://2ksports.com/news/topspin4/414

    We used to run leagues & ladders and play for hours.

    OK.. just found this... Looks Awesome! http://apps.facebook.com/topspinfour/

    Cya on the courts
     
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  25. JackB1

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    Not even in the same league as Full Ace Tennis
     
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  26. Mansewerz

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    Some of us have computers that can't run Full Ace
     
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  27. JackB1

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    Ahhhhh. Did u try lowering the resolution and all the details?

    I have T Elbow on my work computer for that reason :)
    Plus its easy to play with a keyboard.
     
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  28. leonidas1982

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    Advertising and claiming to have player signature styles and then the trailers shows the contrary only speaks volume of the game's honesty and grade.
     
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  29. Mansewerz

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    Not sure if that'd work. When I try to install/run (can't remember) I get a error message saying "Open GL drivers missing." I don't remember all of the details, but I think at the time, I saw that i need new video drivers, or something of that nature.
     
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    You might just need to install Direct X.
     
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  32. Mansewerz

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    Sounds interesting. What about DLC? Are they actually gonna come through this time?
     
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  33. flyinghippos101

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    Their track record says no but then again its a new developer so lets hope
     
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    I have it pre-ordered but I don't know if it is going to be stellar...
     
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  35. leonidas1982

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    They've already duffed it up by blatantly giving inaccurate serving motions of Sampras, Becker, Blake, and others. That doesn't bode well just like TS3.
     
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  36. flyinghippos101

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    Not too sure I'm gonan buy this at luanch, some decent high profile releases during March. I'm probably gonna end up spending my money on Shogun total war instead and just wait till the end of the year when the price has gone down.
     
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    The attribute distribution is terrible... Since when is Murray's forehand better than his backhand? Do they even watch tennis? :???:
     
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    Personally, I think TS4 will be horrible. I was a big fan of TS 1 & 2, as well as VT 3 & 2009, but TS3 was HORRIBLE and this looks pretty much the same. Terrible animations and no fun to play at all. The VT's may be a little "too" arcade-y, but they are crazy fun with beautiful animations and character models. If they add some kind of error system in Virtua Tennis 4, I know I'm going to love it.
     
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  41. Pidgeon

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    Virtua Tennis 2009 is the WORST tennis game ever !
    I bought it, played 2 matches and never played it again.
    0,0 % realism
    you just hit as hard as you can, no game plan , service is just trying
    to hit the top of the bar , ...
    really no variation, players springt like usain bolt , the volley system is even more terrible (when u smash on a player he just volleys it back) , ...
    ughh
    hate this game so much (although VT 3 wasn't that bad ...)

    hope TS 4 will have a nice online feat
     
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    The animations, especially of the strokes, still look far from natural... Why can't they fix it?
     
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  43. Meriko

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    Yea, I agree, but I still had tons of fun on it online :p I don't understand why people say VT3 is better, it's like the exact same thing?
     
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    Attributes are terrible. Fed's serve and speed suck, and Murray's forehand is nowhere near his backhand.
     
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    The rap music on the trailer video seems so out of place.
    The isn't NBA Jam! :)
     
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    Well at least they know that Murray's forehand is better than the Sampras serve.


    Oh wait...:)
     
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    I think they were a little harsh on Fed's volleys lol
     
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  48. bezs

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    Game coming out next month and no gameplay preview videos?
     
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    For TS3, the demo came out after the game was released.
     

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