Top Spin 4 Discussion Thread

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  1. grimmbomb21

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    Day one for me. But I also bought Agassi Tennis Generation. So yeah, day one.:)
     
  2. leonidas1982

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    I'm not based on 2K's false advertisement and lies.
     
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    From a quick glance at the Legende trailer they seem to have gifted Becker with the same horrible standardized service motion as Sampras/Agassi/Murray.
     
  4. flyinghippos101

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    Very few early reviews to give an impression of what some people think. Strange considering how soon the release is and its status as a relative high-profile release. Most games that have gone gold maybe a month before have reviews popping up well before release.

    Anyway, I'm definitely not picking up this game, at least not on release. I'm just so frustrated by 2K's decision to completely throw out the obvious "match the licensed players in-game style to their real life style" concept. What were they thinking?! And the craptacular single player career seems to be back with a few extra bells and whistles. Sorry, not worth $60, think I'll spend it on Shogun 2 Total War instead.

    Immersion and realism really taking a back seat in this one, possibly outright thrown out the window during development methinks.

    stay classy 2K.
     
  5. salsainglesa

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    It looks awful!
     
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    It does look pretty lame but Ill probably get it since I recently switched from Wii to Xbox and now I can play something other than that Grand Slam garbage. I will wait for it to be like 20 bucks though on ****
     
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    I'm still skeptical.

    I wanna play the demo before buying it. Still think the first topspin was the better of all 3
     
  8. jamesblakefan#1

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    What are these games you speak of that have reviews a month before they come out? Most if not all games are reviewed by most sites/magazines until a few days before they come out, sometimes reviews are done after the game is out, so I dunno what you're talking about, very rare for full reviews to be done on any game 3 weeks before it's released.

    Maybe you mean previews, which there have been plenty of to help the consumer decide whether or not to buy, and a demo is expected soon as well. So it's not like they're hiding info, in fact they're going out of their way to release info, at least compared to the secrecy other games are treated with.
     
  9. flyinghippos101

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    I recall the total war games on PC getting relatively early reviews, mainly from European magazines. And the release date for Shogun is about the same for the entire world. Even games like black ops and oblivion that went gold for some time before their release and were very high profile had a few reviews trickling from game magazines a few weeks prior to release.
     
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    truth !
    topspin may play slow and stiff but it's the most realistic tennis game there is...
    other games just makes you hit shots by pressing a button and when pressing it long enough makes the shot more powerful ...
    arcade playstyle..
    topspin actually mixes it up with timing your shots and controlling your serve by using the 2 joysticks etc
     
  12. Born to play

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    YEs, I saw one in the this video
    But the commentator just speaks in the beginning.
    [youtube] jb4EKODeDIE [/youtube]
     
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    This is not a full tennis season -- only one preparation and one tournament a month. Definitely not a deep career mode. Only 5 rounds in a slam = not authentic.

    Smash Court 2, back in 2003, had rolling calender system with accurate gaining, defending, and losing points. They had a tournament every week. They had lead ups to the slams and Masters. Smash Court had a complete season; this offering from Top Spin 4 is almost insulting.
     
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    Awesome. Can't wait for the demo! If anyone else is getting this day one, please post your username if you want to play.
     
  18. luke_1983uk

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    just played the demo its on the xbox live market place right now, played about 6 tie breaks during my lunch and i have to say its back to its best!!!! really enjoyed it, felt really smooth and really like real tennis definently a day one buy for me!!!

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    First impressions on the demo (after 2 TB, one Fed/Nadal, one Serena/Ivanovic) on hard difficulty.

    -I cant serve! Seriously though, the timing of the serve is a lot different it seems from TS3, so I'm still getting used to that. Lost the first game w/ Serena against Ivanovic on a double fault. :oops:

    -Shot timing is a bit different, but definitely seems like variety in shots is more pronounced.

    -All the ingame helpers on screen is a bit of an annoyance, I turned most of them off b/c they got in the way

    -Nadal destroyed me, definitely played very true to the real Nadal.

    -Seeing guys sliding on clay is awesome, movement is definitely an important factor in this game.

    -Overall frustrating but fun, definite buy for me.
     
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    JB#1...awesome..will grab the demo tonight and crush balls when I get home. this sounds fun..how is the feel of the game..meaning..is it addictive, with tight controls?
     
  22. jamesblakefan#1

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    I played the demo a few more times, and it definitely feels good. The signature strokes aren't in for every stroke, which can lead to some awkward looking shots at times, but overall the feel and game speed is better than TS3.

    Also I finally figured out serving, and I have to say that serving w/ the right stick when you time it right is great. You can definitely hit big serves and take control using the serve. Also had a great sequence where I was Fed against Nadal. Hit a serve out wide, FH to open court off the return, and was able to seamlessly come to the net to put away a volley.

    Movement feels just overall better. Maybe the best movement of any tennis game I've played, I mean on clay it's beautiful how guys slide and maneuver to shots. Is it perfect, no. But definitely improved. I'd recommend keeping the timing helper on for shots, until you get a bit more used to it, but all the other helpers are unnecessary IMO.

    Can't wait for March 15.
     
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    Hell I can't wait to caress the demo later tonight before crashing. sounds awesome. this game is all about online play and tournaments, so people whining about career modes need to crawl out of 2001 and get with the times.
     
  24. leonidas1982

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    Even Federer's serve is inaccurate. They gave him a pinpoint stance when he serves on the ad side.
     
  25. Mansewerz

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    Wow, way to **** up signature styles 2K. Still, I need to play it to see how it is.
     
  26. Araxen

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    Rosters are definitely disappointing. Why the heck is James Blake and Safina in this game but Kim Clijsters and Del Potro are not included? What a big mistake by 2k.
     
  27. grimmbomb21

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    Just played the game. I thought it was a major upgrade over TS3 as well. The addition of the inside out forehand by pulling the left trigger is awesome.
     
  28. PeterPanda

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    I missed that kim is not in it. That's big when they put in Safina. I do understand del potro because his tennis carrer is going to the downlow.
     
  29. Mansewerz

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    Very happy 2K decided to make this change. Well done.

    Just played (enjoyed the demo) and kicked Rafa's ass on the first try. Wish they had more difficulty settings on the demo :). I guess all of that TS3 has helped

    The Good:
    -Topspin shots are actually, dare I say it, spinning? They are kicking up off the ground. It's really wonderful, especially on clay.
    -I can make errors off the ground for bad timing, but not as many as TS3 (which is a bit off a turnoff, because this may be easier, but still, I have experience here, so who knows)
    -Seemed more pick up and play friendly
    -I could hit off the rise! *tear* It was great. I could definitely see this TS being more realistic, especially in Rafa-Fed matches where Fed will need to hit off the rise to do well
    -Graphics were pretty good and player models looked better!
    -Movement felt more natural and clunky
    -Drop shots are way more natural and fun to hit, but still risky!

    The bad:
    -Though movement is less clunky, the gameplay is still a bit slow for my tastes. It could be a bit faster
    -Still no commentary and still that same old announcer voice!
    -Movement still didn't look world class tennis pro quality

    The ugly:
    -Looks like 2k did not try at all in getting motions correct. Federer has the same motion on serve as Murray and Agassi, and I think Sampras as well.
    -Service motions in general look ugly and funky. 2K needs to look at Virtua Tennis 3 to get good service motions down.
    -Hitting motions were not that great either. Federer's forehand does not look authentic, and Rafa's forehand is way, way overdone when it comes to the lasso whip buggy forehand.
    -Setting up for shots did not look natural to me.

    Overall, I give the demo a solid score, and I will most likely get this game. But, I hope 2K does something about player motions, through some sort of patch or update.
     
  30. grimmbomb21

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    After you select your players, you can select the difficulty on the next screen.
     
  31. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    hmm

    used to enjoy virtua tennis on the Wii, but it was hard on your game irl!

    Did Eugenie Bouchard end up in the game? I saw her play a few weeks ago at a challenger in the middel of nowhere and she was great! (won the thing, despite being the youngest player in the draw)
     
  32. Mansewerz

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    Huh? Where at? I must've missed it.
     
  33. grimmbomb21

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    I did too the first few times. After you select the players, it show a picture of each player over a tennis court. The top player has "Normal" next to the photo. Just move it to hard difficulty, which was way more fun.:)
     
  34. grimmbomb21

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    Yep. She is in.
     
  35. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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    Is it just me or do they seem to just be just slapping the ball in these rallys.

    And I am not to keen on the weird power bars under the opponents.

    Oh and stock racquets :(
     
  36. jamesblakefan#1

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    Those are stamina bars, you can turn them off under options BTW, or just set them to show up only before serve.
     
  37. quest01

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    I downloaded the demo for the 360, it seemed pretty cool.
     
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    Enjoying it so far, the sliding on clay animation is nice.

    So the vintage Agassi is only in the game if you pre-order from Gamestop?
     
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    I like the game so far, but I still do not know half the secrets. Any tips? It is tough to learn when you can just play a tie break. I am trying to the right stick serve, it goes in, but not very fast yet. I did figure out Right button is needed for turbo and that is about where I am at.

    Also tough to hit winners with topspin..almost seems like you should just hit flat all the time.
     
  40. Mansewerz

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    Anyone else notice Rafa grunts like a girl!
     
  41. Rock Strongo

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    Federer's Ad-court serve is similar to the standardized motions of Sampras, Murray et al. Did anyone notice that the Nadal service motion is the 2008 one? I'm not impressed and will stick to Mario Tennis on the N64.
     
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    It's very odd. It seems they went out of their way to ruin everybody's strokes. And yet they are claiming "signature" strokes.
     
  43. jamesblakefan#1

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    With the right stick, you have to push up just when the ball reaches the top of the toss, to hit big serves. With Federer I'm pretty automatic at getting big serves in.

    As for topspin, I've played w/ Nadal the past few times and been dominating w/ topspin FH to the Fed BH. :twisted: You really have to mix your shots though, can't rely too much on one shot over another in my view.
     
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    Do you hold the Left trigger for that inside out stroke?
     
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    downloaded demo, it looks sweet, better than t3, but strokes sometimes still look odd
     
  46. PeterPanda

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    do you guys know an secret codes for top spin 3?
     
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    Yeah, but it doesn't work for every shot, you have to be in the right positioning to be prepared to hit it inside out.
     
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    I'll be getting this on release day for the 360, so if anybody wants to play just let me know. My gamertag is x The Djoker x.
     
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