Top Tennis Academies

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  1. Henmans-Backhand-Smash

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    Hi,

    Can anyone recommend a residential tennis academy for a 12 year old boy?

    He is nationally ranked and is interested in either a summer or a year at a top academy and I promised a friend I would cast my net further than Bolliteri's, Saddlebrook, Sanchez-Casal and ISP.

    Full time accommodation is a must and schooling of course if they chose the year-long option.

    Cost and location at this stage is not a problem!

    Thanks guys!
     
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  2. Henmans-Backhand-Smash

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    So far I have found these ones, but I'm sure there must be more?!

    Mouratoglue
    Bollateri
    Saddlebrook
    ISP
    Global Tennis
    L'Academie De Tennis
    Bruguera Tennis Academy
    Newks Tennis Academy
    Saviano Tennis

    Thanks again!
     
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  3. lightthestorm

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    I've been to Bollieteri... but I've been Smith Stearns, Evert, and Tournament Tough (in FLA) tbh. Those are the only 4 "major" camps I've been to.

    Honestly, I liked SS the best, Bollieteri, Evert, and TT were great too though.

    EDIT: I forgot to put some academies. Randy Pates is excellent (one of my friends went there), as well as Smith Stearns.
     
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  4. Rafa4Ever

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    advantage tennis academy
     
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  5. HughJars

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    Just checked out the prices of the Bolliteri academy. No where near as expensive as I would of guessed.

    I would kill for something like that in Australia, where you can pay and pretty much live tennis for weeks on end.

    Hell, Id even consider doing it for a holiday and flying overseas......

    That's if they ran things like this for intermediate players.........which I doubt.
     
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    any feedback on Global Tennis? is this in Spain?
     
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    4Slam in barcelona
     
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    How much for an hour private lesson with Nick Bollitieri?
     
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    I trained at Newks Tennis Academy and it was phenomenal. I am now a former academy student and will go back and teach sometimes!
    TeamFamilyTeam!
     
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    any feedback about it?

    how much it cost to do a month there?
     
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    Mallorca Spain has one of Rafa and Carlos Moya's coach and is a small intimate academy, schooling, residence, and maybe 8 - 12 other kids 12 yrs old living there. Most of all court ratio is small and it's like family there...an academy that lives and breaths tennis.




     
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    Its all on their website: google 4slam
     
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  13. ga tennis

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    STRIVE TENNIS ACADEMY!!!! We have no more than 8 students. We travel to all the tournaments with the kids. Check out the website www.strivetennisacademy.com Go to every one else first and then come see us and you will see the difference :)
     
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  14. sureshs

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    So it has only two coaches, you and your wife? Or are there others not mentioned on the web site?
     
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    The two coaches are Heath Waters and his wife Lindsey Lee Waters who was top 30 in the world.I am one of the coaches for the travel team. Next year when we start the boys academy i will be there full time with the little boys.
     
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  16. tennis_balla

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    Nothing wrong with the top academies you posted, not sure why your friend wants you to look further.
     
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  17. sureshs

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    What about Evert's in FL? Is that a residential academy? I think it has clay courts and is used by the USTA too
     
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  18. Mrnoital

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    I read that it costs about $900 for one week- one hour a day. This is from an article that said junior player Mia smith received free lessons an hour a day from Nick.. The article said the free lessons were worth $800-900.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    Yeah but those numbers maybe like MSRP when said in such a context. No one actually pays that. Is it like the "$1000 worth" of installed software that you get for "free" when you buy a laptop for $300?
     
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    Nick B charges about $500/hr
     
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    Nick B's coaching isn't the strength of Bolleteri IMHO - I think his other coaches seem a lot stronger. I love to take a lesson from the serve doctor..
     
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  22. Mrnoital

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    Apparently we are both wrong. It's almost twice that amount if I'm interpreting the sentence below correctly. Here is a quote from the article

    "Bollettieri arranged for a 30 percent discount on the academy’s fee for Smith and has coached her an hour a day for free, a service that usually costs $800-$900. "



    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-400-000-as-teen-tennis-champs-disappear.html
     
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    You've taken lessons from Nick and the other coaches, have you? Do you think they can cure Sloane Stephens of her lazy, halfhearted and lackluster intensity?
     
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    I remember that article, what a sad case and lesson for parents. These were not wealthy people. The real deal is everyone gets a 'discount' at these academies. Its their selling tool and half the players were 'spotted' by the head of the academy.

    3-4 kids that they truly believe in play for free. All the rest pay the 'discounted' fee. But its not really a discount, the sticker price is inflated and nobody actually pays that price. Its a money making factory.

    These parents sold their house, spent their money for nothing that a solid local coach and program could not have accomplished. She is now 15 and can barely crack the top 500 ITF.
     
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  25. sureshs

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    http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/6865672/tennis-nick-bollettieri-going-strong-80-years-young

    "his going rate for private instruction is $900 an hour"
     
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  26. sureshs

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    In other words, it is just like any private University for academics :)
     
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    The one difference is the University does not tell the parents their kid will be the next Sharapova. The academies have a sales force that has lots of tricks. Its amazing how many blond girls parents are told they have the next Sharapova, shorter girls told they are the next Henin, etc.

    A coach at an academy told me years ago "if you are paying for your kid, that means they do not think he will be a pro".
     
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  28. sureshs

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    We are going through the college app process now, and I see a lot of slick marketing going on by the private schools, so it is not all that different. That is why we are applying only to public Universities.

    BTW, the "tiered" system is not bad. It is often the only way that works in a variety of private and government contexts. Poor and older people pay less, those who can afford more pay more, and some will pay the sticker price which no one else pays, either unknowingly or by being forced to.
     
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    I hear you. But to me the lame part is telling parents they have the next 'insert name of former star player'.

    There is a video online of a famous coach saying this girl he teaches will be the next Capriati. The only problem is looking at the girl and her parents, she will likely be around 5'2" maybe 100 lbs as an adult.

    How is a player that size going to play like Capriati, who was 5'8" 140 lbs?
     
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    $900 an hour? You got to be kidding me...
     
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  31. sureshs

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    there must be something more like he may already have reviewed your video going into the lesson etc and come prepared with expert analysis
     
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  32. Mrnoital

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    If you have the money and want your kid to attend one of these academies, more power to you but there are credible instructors everywhere who can teach your kids and you don't need to live and play tennis 6 hours every day and pay hundreds of thousands to reach the level that most of these kids reach.

    Even the best of the academies claim only to have produced a half dozen or so players to ever play at the highest level. That's a half dozen out of thousands or perhaps tens of thousands. It's a simple math equation that these academies are pretty much worthless if your goal is to become a top pro player.
     
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    For a dweller of the caves Mr know it all speaks the truth.
    Statistically speaking I believe you'd find this to be true.
     
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  34. sureshs

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    Becoming a pro player is not the only reason to learn tennis.
     
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    What other reasons would their be for spending hundreds of thousands on an academy? To become a teaching pro?
     
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  36. sureshs

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    College.

    A high-end non-boarding private school costs around $25K a year here. Add boarding costs and tennis costs and see if a residential tennis academy is really that much more expensive.

    You have to do something abnormal to reach the highest levels of tennis. Either drop out at age 16 like Fed and Nadal, or do alternative schooling, or spend 4 hours after school everyday and ruin your studies. You can't have it all because by age 18 your future is decided, while for most other kids, it is at least 4 years away.
     
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  37. Mrnoital

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    :confused: Invest $200,000 in a tennis academy so your kid could get a college scholarship worth $200,000? :shock:
     
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  39. Mrnoital

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    What are you trying to say?:confused:
     
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  40. Overdrive

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    I wouldn't take sureshs' posts too seriously.
     
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  41. sureshs

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    Everything isn't about money. And moreover those who can will do it. Why drive a Mercedes when a Kia will do fine?
     
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    Instead of clarifying your statements, you manage to make less and less sense each time you post.
     
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  43. sureshs

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    I am just saying people have different priorities. My friend has sent his daughter to a private school all her life paying 20K+ every year. She is trying to get into a top private liberal arts school on the east coast now. How long will it take her to make the money that her father would have spent on her?

    He does it because he believes in it.

    You are the one who reduces everything to money. Here is some news for you: find out how much it costs to raise a child till age 18. Should everyone stop having kids then?

    You say academies are extreme and a waste of money. I say succeeding at tennis is extreme and so usual rules do not apply.
     
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    Elite Tennis Academy in Barcelona
     
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  45. Mrnoital

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    That's great but it's not an accurate analogy because more than 2-3% of liberal arts students will make a living in their field.

    Actually I said pretty much the opposite when I said, if you can afford it, go for it.
    :confused: Wow. I didn't say either. I qualified the statement by asking what the expectation was.

    :confused: I have no idea what this means.
     
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  46. crosbydog

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    My 12 yo is spending the week at Solomon's and he has not given her a second of his attention despite the first sentence on his website that says he works personally with every student - BS. I have asked him every day for 3 days and he just isn't doing it. I am angry at being misled.
     
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  47. crosbydog

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    If you go there can you request a lesson with "the serve doctor" and actually get it?
     
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  48. EP1998

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    Yes you can. If you're from out of town I would inquire in advance to make sure he is there and has availability.
     
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    Academy attendee

    I went to Nicks and Hopmans in the eighties for about 2-3 weeks each. Nick came to our court once for about 15 minutes. My timing on Hopmans wasn't great as he died the day before I arrived. Understandably, the coaches weren't in a very involved frame of mind. Pluses for academies: No shortage of match play and ranked competition, play alongside pros and future pros. Kick stein, Arias, Carling Bassett, Agassi, Courier and Melissa Gurney were there when I was. Pros at Hopmans were Bonnie Gaduseck, Kathy Rinaldi and Andrea Jaeger and a phenom named Jared Palmer. I think as an addendum I would add that the staff professionals at both places were very accomplished and realistic. Each player needs to be involved with their decision to attend.
     
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    Have you found a place??
     
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