topspin is over rated

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  1. tennis_balla

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    Come on, not another one of these threads.
     
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  2. luvforty

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    come on balla, it's winter, what else are we gonna do, other than the 3 hours of polar bear tennis i already put in today!

    20F out there, 12mph breeze, wind chill 4F
     
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  3. rkelley

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    It depends on what your goals are. A simple arc swing can certainly accomplish a lot. You have a nice, smooth motion and are very consistent. But the more modern technique allows you hit harder with consistency. If you want to improve you just have to commit to learning the new technique and suck for a while during the learning process. But I love that feeling of wailing on the ball.
     
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    Many people over rate top spin doesn't mean that top spin is over rated. There's kids on my highschool team that just lob thinking oooooo top spin, and then there's the guy at the park no one plays with because he just junk balls all the time. The simple tennis philosophy as I know it is, hit it hard and deep -> step into the net. Top spin for the average joe is not for the high bounce, or rather shouldn't be, but for how it makes the ball dip with in the lines.
     
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    People over rate top spin, that doesn't mean that top spin is over rated
     
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  6. 10isfreak

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    Actually, getting some bounce can be a good way of neutralizing your opponent. I personally use loopier strokes as a variation and I tend to aim forehand side for these... for what I do, it works well: it‘s very hard to be incisive off an heavy ball without risking too much, besides the kick often pulls my opponent off the court.

    However, that‘s me and that‘s what is fit for the situation... different situations call for adjustments and different player use different qualities as their staple shots. Some do hit good and heavy forehands. Of course, between moonballs and heavy forehands, there is a margin...

    As for your emphasis on deeper strokes, it‘s always making the best use of the court‘s geometry. The harder and flatter you hit, the more linear and the less angular your game becomes: it makes it easier for your opponent to cover the court. I might work for you because of some of your personal qualities, but it‘s not a one size fits all advice.
     
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  7. tennis_balla

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    Footwork is waaaaay over rated. Actually, its not even necessary in tennis. Its absolutely useless! All you gotta do is just hit aces and service winners when you're serving and hit winners off your returns. That's it! Pfff, tactics who needs those when you can cream the ball like Rosol at Wimbledon.


    True story.
     
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    This is what I've always said. Yes topspin is an important element but it is not the end all be all that we think it is. Most people don't do near the damage the think they do with "all" their topspin. What people fail to understand is that all the better players seem to hit with a lot of topspin today and we are used to responding to it. No one ever beat me because of their massive topspin, and I often play on red clay. Who here will admit to being beat by someone just because they put too much topspin on the ball and he/she couldn't handle it?
     
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  9. chico9166

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    Don't know the exact numbers (it's variable) but most club players are operating at 5,6,7 to 1 ratio of unforced errors to winners ..(maybe more) REal improvement is made in the unforced error department, which is where topspin really comes into play. Forget about the merits of topspin as a winner producer, it simply allows a player to start to swing out and actually have a chance to keep the ball in play... and perhaps start to execute 4 and 5 ball shot patterns..
     
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  10. Relinquis

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    topspin helps with long rallies and gives you flexibility when constructing points.

    also, you need a bit of topspin for some passing shots, where you want the ball to dip below the netcord. not all topspin is Nadal-esque.
     
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  11. thecode

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    I like slice.
     
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  12. TennisCJC

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    Del Po and Gilles Simon hit very moderate topspin. I watched them play a 5 setter a few years ago at USO from court side 3rd row. Very moderate ball rotation. Some shots it was like the ball rotated so slowly that you could see that it was barely turning. Amazing power and consistency too.

    Stosur and Kuznetsova are pretty good examples on WTA of players that hit very good topspin forehands.

    But, I agree with your assessment in general. ATP players tend to shape shots with topspin and slice while most WTA hit more moderate spin.
     
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