Tourna Big Hitter Black 7

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  1. Chyeaah

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    use those thimble things then.

    I really hope this string is available in Aus, but i wont be expecting it since hardly any tourna stuff is available in aus except the grips.

    but Nice review.
     
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  2. TheOneHander

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    Same thing with the thimbles. Personally, stringing doesn't actually tear up my fingers so much as it leaves them burned. It's a little bit of a bother but not enough to impede play afterwards.

    But thank you, I'm glad it helped.

    SteveI,

    What gauge did send out?
     
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  3. frunk

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    My "Final" Review

    I've gotten about 8 hours with this string.
    My normal Setup is:
    K Blade Tour: BHBR 17 x OGSM 16. 53lbs x 52lbs.
    Tested: BHB7 16 x OGSM 16. 53lbs x 52lbs.

    Serves:
    I honestly didn't do too many serves with this setup, mainly due to a few blisters I got during the play test (obviously not the string's fault). I don't have a kick serve to write home about, but like BHBR, this gave me a better amount of spin due to its construction. Flat serves were flat, and kick and slice serves had a TINY extra jump. So said my opponents at least.

    Groundies:
    One word. Pocketability. As previously stated, it was a little hard to find this string's mojo at first due to the difference in stiffness, but after I got used to it...OMGBBQ. Every forehand was loaded with spin and I painted the baseline like never before. It's like RPM in it's first 30 minutes...except this lasts for hours. Backhands also had a nice razor-like touch. Slice backhands dropped appropriately shorter than normal and spun slightly more than BHBR.

    Volleys:
    I didn't hit a single volley with this string...sorry.

    Overall Impressions:
    It's like a durable, tension-maintaining RPM blast that (from what I hear) will be cheaper. I've advertised the string to several friends and they've gotten interested in the string. Would I switch from BHBR 17? No. BHBR gives me a little SOMETHING else which I like. I can't put my finger on it just yet.
     
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  4. nickarnold2000

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    You played with this string for 8 hours and didn't hit one single volley? Why not?
     
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  5. frunk

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    Because I am strictly a baseliner. I may have come up for like a put away shot but those are pretty hard to miss, and are impulse shots.
     
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  6. nickarnold2000

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    Ok, but being able to hit a decent volley will give you another weapon and something else for your opponents to think about.
    Spend a little time practicing and maybe you'll surprise yourself! :)
     
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  7. SteveI

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    17G. Thanks for the nice review
     
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    Better than or equal to what from what you felt?
     
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  9. Boricua

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    Wonder how this string will feel in a stiff racket, the racket you use is quite arm friendly.
     
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  10. Boricua

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    Its similar to any poly you used in the past?
     
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  11. ben123

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    is it a slippery string like rpm?
     
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  12. Nefarious_Ly

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    "a little something else which i like." which is? lol.. i'm currently using BHBR 17 too, and love it. but am kind've dissapointed in how much power it can blast. XD it takes alot to get used too. i have to really tone down my hits. i was using og sheep micro before and was literally trying to arm the ball, cause it wasnt giving me the spin or power i was wanting. (in the end, i had to take a break from tennis for awhile, but now im back on track in my tennis.) BHB7 looks pretty amazing though, i'll be willing to try it next, full bed.
     
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  13. Torres

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    I've copied and pasted your post in into Google Translate but I still don't know what you're trying to say.
     
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  14. pvaudio

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    It is a soft, and yet crisp string at the same time. The closest thing to describe the feel IMO is Typhoon grey. In a full bed, it is superior to B5E. More spin, more power, less feel. It's like a control-oriented BHBR.
     
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  15. pvaudio

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    Tourna Big Hitter Black 7

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    Stringing: Not bad. As far as textured polys go, this doesn't have that kinking memory. It is, however, rather sharp. In that regard, it reminds me very much of Polyfibre Hexablade. It's got that feeling that if you're not careful, you may cut your fingertips. Luckily, that didn't happen. Strung in full as shown, tension of 47/47.

    Groundstrokes: This is a fantastic baseliner's poly string. It has a very, very unique feel to it that lets you know that you are generating spin. While not as much as it's blue brother, BHBR, it is still well above average. This is a baseliner's poly for those with high RHS and who employ a slice. While slices do tend to float more than with other spin polys (even for a large amount of pace, you tend to get more RPMs than you expect), this same feature is great for those with large forehands and backhands. It lets you hit heavier shots than your stroke would otherwise produce. I do not mean more spin: I mean heavy. I define heavy as the intersection of pace and spin whereby the speed of the ball appears to be amplified as it loses little speed upon bouncing. Some strings create spin which tends to have the ball float (i.e. Spiky Shark, Cyclone, Blue Gear). There are then those select few which create the heavy spin I am describing (BHBR, Tour Bite, Barb Wire). BHB7 falls into the latter category, coming second only to Tour Bite in this aspect. Tour Bite's downfall is where BHBR and not surprisingly BHB7 take the step ahead: they only impart the spin when you desire. In short, this is a poly for the baseliner or all-court player who is able to control what sort of action they want to put on the ball.
    Overall: 9.5/10

    Serves: If you hit flat first serves, then please continue on to the volleys section. If, however, you employ spin on all serves, then continue as this may be the string for you. I never was without pace with this string. More importantly, it produced incredibly heavy serves. If you put the ball within a foot of either the T or the sideline, it will kick off the court and make the serve seemingly faster. I typically hit first serves in the low 100s since I rarely serve flat anymore. I did hit a flat serve or two while testing, and it really wasn't my cup of tea. Then again, you likely wouldn't be using this if all you do is bomb flat serves with full polyester. So for me, this string fit my serving needs. It does fall short in power compared to BHBR and other similar strings which shine on serves. If this had a bit more pop along with the action it produces, it'd be a lethal combination.
    Overall: 8.75/10

    Volleys: Not much feel at the net, unfortunately. You rarely get a "solid" feel when blocking back hard shots and the lack of power makes reaching volleys more difficult. It does, however, allow you to hit great mid-court pickups or half volleys that are difficult to return. Unfortunately for me though, I just didn't have the confidence I like when up at the net.
    Overall: 8/10

    Durability: So far so good. Strings are still aligned with the crosses moving slightly. These shaped strings in particular (twisted ones don't suffer as much) tend to wear down their sharp edges over time. I didn't see that here, but then again, I haven't played it until death.
    Overall: 8.5/10

    I am not a full polyester player anymore by any means. I do, however, appreciate a good poly when it comes along. I think this could be an astounding string if used in a hybrid with a lively multi. Gut here would be a waste (you don't often hear me say that) since it'd be shredded as the string is sharp, but doesn't notch. Syn gut would simply soften the stringbed, but this is soft already. What I'd cross it with is a 16g lively multi with fairly good tension stability. I will try next (if I can get another set) with Thunderblast crosses and can then compare head-head with B5E.


    Overall: 9.15/10
     
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  16. Torres

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    ^ What's the supposed issue with this string in relation to flat serves?
     
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  17. SteveI

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    Hello All,

    I had the same issue that AV did in relation to flat serves. I was testing side by side with my reg set-up. BHS 17G Hybrid.. same frame.. etc etc. Not sure why yet.. but did much better with my reg set-up on flat bombs. I also did better using another frame (Polylon Ice 17G/Gamma Syn Gut Hybrid). I am testing more tomarrow. BTW.. my review will be very closde to PVs. I have 10 hours on my set-up. Mains 52/48 crosses (Gamma Syn Gut 16G).

    The bottom line I was serving bigger and had a higher percentage with the other test frames over the BHB7 Hybrid. The hard slice and kickers are out of this world with the BHB7.
     
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  18. Torres

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    I serve mostly flat almost all the time with my first serve. In my view, there are generally four factors which a string needs to provide for the purposes of a good flat serve:-

    1. the string needs to be able to provide power and pace on the ball;
    2. the string needs to provide directional accuracy and control;
    3. the string needs to be able to provide some spin - even with flat serves there are still rotations and a shallow trajectory on the ball; and
    4. in an ideal world, the string allows for an unpredictable or variable ball off the bounce when serving.

    Obviously, different strings provide each of these factors to varying degrees, and no string provides the best in all areas because where you tend to have more of one, you have less of the other.

    BHBR17 for example provides pace, spin and unpredictable trajectories off the bounce with flat serves, but where it lags behind is in directional accuracy; flat serves can have a few inches margins of error either side of the lines, particularly when its not freshly strung.

    Scorpion 17 provides the directional accuracy, control, forgiveness and percentages, but doesn't have the same pace, spin or unpredictable trajectories off the bounce that BHBR17 provides. It's pretty good for flat serves when freshly strung but its not a string you want to be using when its gone/going dead and you want to serve someone off the court.

    NG 1.20/Co-Focus 17 scores pretty highly in all areas, excelling particularly in terms of the amount of pace that can be put on the ball but it doesn't generate the same level of unpredictable trajectories and action off the bounce that BHBR17 provides, and it doesn't quite have the directional control of Scorpion 17. That said, the amount of power it contritbutes to flat serving through the court is pretty impressive.

    Silverstring 17, in relative terms, is just useless for flat serves.

    B5E 17, again, not a string you'd want to be using if big serves are a key part of your game. Too underpowered.

    It will be interesting to see how BHB7 compares in these areas.
     
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  19. mikeler

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    Sounds like a pretty good string. My arm is getting better now so I'm wishing I had been in the playtest now. Oh well, next time.
     
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  20. SteveI

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    I think in my case. I would string about 3-5 lbs less and use a more powerful cross. In any case, this was my 1st run at this string with no feedback at all to guide my set-up. I also found this string very effective on serves, both 1st and 2nds as I do not employ a flat hard 1st serve most of the time. There was still tons of pace and spin and a heavy ball produced using a hard slice or heavy kicker.
     
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  21. 2handsbothsides

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    Torres, great post. Can you provide a bit more detail on why you say Silverstring does not work for flat serves?
     
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  22. frunk

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    The power in BHBR is that something else i guess. It's not unrelenting power, for me. It's just right.
     
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  23. drkplayer122

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    I just strung it up full bed at 52. This was a pain in the butt to string since im used to stringing multis not shaped strings. will try to play with the strings sometime this week.
     
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    Torres while I enjoy your reviews this one comment has me scraching my head.
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    I bow to your skill and might I suggest that it's time to dump your day job and join the ATP.:)
     
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  25. Torres

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    LOL. It's funny because I've never had a problem hitting spots when hitting flat serves. You're in control of everything - your stance, your toss, your stroke mechanics, you have all the time that you need etc. My racquet is weighted and balanced in exactly the way I like it, the strings strung at my preferred tension and so on and so on. All I do is relax, toss the ball and let the stroke mechanics take over. The only real variables are the weather and overly elastic strings (which is why I like a medium firm stringbed - there's less variation).

    My kick serve though is fairly medicore. I know players who can bounce the ball to the moon, something which I struggle to do.
     
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  26. Torres

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    Obviously you can hit flat serves with it, but I don't think its any near as good for serves as the other polys mentioned. It's low powered and has a very linear power response from the string. So for example, you hit at 50% and it produces a certain amount of power. You swing at 75% and it will provide an incremental increase in power. You swing for the hills and it still only produces an incremental amount of additional power. The power increase is too linear for me.

    It tames everything, deadens things and dampens down all the extremes. There are a number of people here who like that string, but I suspect its because it suits their larger, open patterned racquets than my 6.1 95/18x20 in which I prefer a livlier string rather than the mutedness that Silverstring offers.
     
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  27. J_aces

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    Thanks Steve. Got the strings. May take a while but I'll put up my opinion when I try them
     
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  28. drkplayer122

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    Usual String Setup: BHBR/MCS 51/54
    Setup: full Bed at 52

    Stringing: It was a pain the butt for me since I'm still a noob at stringing and used to stinging multis rather than shaped polys. But what can I do? Just gotta practice stringing.

    Groundies:
    This string is a beauty. I had plenty of spin and controlled power on both wings when I tweaked my swing a bit. I had many nadal-like shots because of it. My partner was so overwhelmed by the spin that he stood at least 7 ft behind the baseline rather than hugging the baseline like during our usual hitting sessions. 9.5/10

    Serves:
    I completely agree with PVAudio when he says that it is difficult to hit flat bombs with this string. I maybe gotten 1 in out of the 10 I tried. But man. This string can move the ball like no other on my slice serves. 8.5/10

    Volleys:
    I'm not a big fan of volleying with this string. It gave me a little too much power since I like to do touch volleys. The BHB7 made me adjust my volleying to a deep well-placed volley. 8/10

    Feel:
    BHB7 is pretty soft compared to the BHBR. I really think if i hybrid this with MCS, it would feel sensational. 8/10

    Durability:
    I only have 3 hrs on the string and everything is still good. ??/10

    Overall: 9/10 Great string. I will consider switching my BHBR with the BHB7 but gotta test out some more strings first.
     
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  29. pvaudio

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    Still hitting like a dream. Played against my fiancee tonight (played in college), and the loss in power was sometimes hard. She hits with little spin, but stupidly hard and low. That means getting low and moving into the ball. This stuff doesn't help you out like BHBR does, but it does make for more penetrating balls on the return.
     
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    Be careful using this word around a woman. :twisted:
     
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    LOL you guys are too much :lol:
     
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    "Spin, Spin, Spin"

    With these modern co-polys, I'm starting to think that you can put them into 2 camps. Those that moderate and take out the extremes eg. Weiscannon Silverstring (dampened, dead feeling, muted, low power, not much spin for a poly), and those that accentuate and enhance particular characteristics eg. Polystar Energy (power), Tourna BHBR (lively, spin, action/movement on the ball, power), Solinco Tour Bite (spin and power) etc. Obviously there are also strings that fall in between these extremes eg. Weiscannon Scorpion.

    Big Hitter Black 7 (BHB7) falls into the 'enhance and accentuate' camp of co-polys. It is pure "spin, spin, spin", together with some power thrown in for good measure.

    Comparison with BHBR 17

    It feels similar to BHBR 17 in that its springy and elastic. Both strings produce a huge amount of spin, but they differ significantly in the type of spin that they produce. With BHBR you get much more side to side action on the ball. The ball moves around alot, particularly laterally, off the bounce. If you play someone strung with a full bed of BHBR, you'll notice that the trajectory of the ball off the bounce varies tremendously. Sometimes the ball shoots forwards and low, other times it bounces and kicks up, or bounces up and to the right, up and to the left but this time at a different angle, and so on and so on. It makes life uncomfortable for opponents because there's so much variation of movement on the ball. And neither do opponents quite have the same confidence to take a big cut at the ball because they're having to laser lock their eyes onto the ball to track where its going to be moving next off the bounce. It's harder for them to get into a rhythm.

    I'm guessing that BHBR produces that type of action on the ball because of the amount of elasticity and snap back in both the mains and the crosses which helps to produce that variation in movement and spin on the ball as it leaves the stringbed. There's no other string like it.

    The downside of those characteristics and the range of variation off the stringbed is that you don't quite have the same directional accuracy as you do with other stiffer, less springy co-polys. That variation off the stringbed, which does so much to make life uncomfortable for your opponent when the ball reaches their side of the court, can unfortunately, also produce variations in your own directional accuracy when you're trying to hit spots on the court.

    "Spin, Spin, Spin"

    BHB7 is a different animal to BHBR in terms of the type of spin it produces. There's much, much less side to side spin and unpredictable trajectories off the bounce. Instead, all the spin and action on the ball in channelled in a forward direction. You know those times when you play someone and every time their ball hits the ground in front of you, it explodes off the court and shoots forward? This is the type of ball that BHB7 allows you to hit. Provided you've decent technique and stroke mechanics, BHB7 allows you to hit a heavy, heavy, forward spin orientated ball. I'm normally a pretty flat hitter with a low trajectory over the net, but at times, I felt like Nadal. Even with my type of game, I thought there was an awful lot of 'grab' on the ball. You can really feel the stringbed gripping the ball and putting a ton of rotations on it. I'd even go so far as to say that at times, I thought there was too much spin on the ball - certainly more than what I'm used to - as I like to try and hit through the court. Purely in terms of the amount of 'grab' on the ball it feels a bit like B5E, though apart from that commonality, the strings are quite different - B5E is deader feeling, stiffer and much more lower powered. There's alot of adjustability to the amount of spin as well. Have a more vertical racquet path and you can bounce your opponent back beyond the baseline, flatten out your stroke and you're hitting a heavy ball that shoots forward off the bounce, and there are all sorts of variations in between depending on your swing path.

    Power

    On the subject of power, this is a pretty powerful string. That elasticity and springiness to the stringbed adds to the power levels. Is it as powerful as BHBR? It's probably comparable, maybe fractionally more lower powered, but there's not much in it. It's a pretty thin for a 17 gauge string. I don't have any calipers, but like BHBR 17 (which tends to run thin), I'd hazard a guess that's closer to 1.20mm than 1.25mm. I strung it at 54lbs CP in a Prestige MP (98/18x20) and it was pretty powerful. Not powerful in an uncontrolled way but certainly more powerful than your BBOs, Silverstrings, Scorpions, and SPPPs of this world.

    Feel

    When hitting at 10-20%, the string has a slightly brittle feel to it (a bit like Volkl Cyclone). However, when hitting through the ball with more power, that brittleness disappears and it starts feeling much better - you start feeling its elasticity, 'give' and springiness. For touch play, its not the best feeling string out there. It's fine from the baseline but for drop shots and drop volleys there are better co-poly in terms of feel; Weiscannon Scorpion to name just one. Dunlop Black Widow to name another. That said, BHB7 does allows you to 'cut' underneath the ball very well when hitting drop shots, and the amount of backspin you can generate on drop shots is quite impressive. However that lack of feel and the springiness from the stringbed can lead to some inconistency with volleys and touch shots. This is more of a co-poly for players who like camping on the baseline and pounding away, moving their opponents around and then going for the open court.

    Control

    Playability & Performance Longevity

    Comparisons with other co-polys

    Initial Conclusion / Further testing

    [comments to be completed later - am knackered after 3 hours of tennis]
     
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  34. Murray_fan1

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    ^^^^^Great review- Just strung some up in my 400 Tour. Surprisingly easy to string given it sharp edges. First impressions are that this feels quite plastic when compared to the likes of Silverstring, Tour Bite. I suspect this string might be a derivative of Topspin's Max Rotation same feel and sharpness as I recall.
     
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  35. Torres

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    It's definitely a completely different string to Silverstring. In fact I'd say they're polar opposites. More elastic than Tour Bite which feels more solid but much stiffer and less elastic.
     
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  36. SteveI

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    Very interested in the 400 Tour and BHB7 combo as this might be my gear in the spring. I should have my review up in the next day for so. I am also testing the Wilson Blue string. So many strings.. so little time. Excellent review..glad you are enjoying the string Torres.
     
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  37. SteveI

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    Big Hitter Black 7 17G Review - SteveI

    Tension it is strung: 56 Lbs Mains and 52 Lbs Cross (Gamma Syn Gut 16G)

    Your regular string set up: Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G @ 56 Lbs Mains and Gamma Syn Gut 16G @ 52 Lbs

    Racquet brand and model string is installed in: Dunlop 400G (11.6 oz / 8 Points HL)

    Stringing: Strung on a Alpha CP Drop Weight (6-Point). Coil memory was not much for an issue since I was working from a reel and only using 20 feet. Knots were a easy to deal with since the string was a 17G and on the softer side. While stringing there was some play in the string but I had to make only a few adjustments on my dropweight to obtain proper tension. The edges of the string were a bit on the sharp side and you could feel the 7 sides. Overall stringing experience was quite easy and unremarkable.

    Power: Really enjoyed the power level of this string. While the power was available it did not cause balls to fly like other higher powered polys. I loved the fact that I could really swing out and get a very true power output based on my swing speed. I tested this string for 12 hours and the power level more or less remained the same.

    Feel: Feel was not really a strong point of this string for me. I am not much of a feel player in any case as I do not hit many drop shots or drop volleys. Slices and topspin lobs seems to go where I intended them to go but I did not feel overly connected to the stringbed. Feel was average at best, but then again I am not the best judge of this feature. I get a somewhat better sense of feel from BHS 17. The next time I use this string I will drop the tension a few pounds to see I can obtain a little softer feel.

    Spin Production: Nice tight spin production with this string. Very much a driving, tight heavy spin with wonderful directional and depth control. Compared with my regular set-up and increase of 20% or so. The spin really made the balls hug the court. On serve, balls seemed to explode off the court and pick up speed on contact. Hard slices were just wicked and well as kick serves.

    Control: Very impressed with the control on this string. My unforced errors were reduced and I could swing out with very little concern for overhitting. The firm and crisp stringbed combined with the great spin production enhanced control. While drilling the ball seemed to be on a string and I was going hitting closer and closer to the lines with confidence. Nice ball pocketing in general at the start of the testing cycle but as the stringbed became softer, ball pocketing moved to the excellent level.

    Serving: Enjoyed serving with this set-up. As mentioned above, spin based serves were a strong point of this set-up. A bit more effort was involved for me in hitting flat serves. As I worked my way into my hours with this set-up I was getting more out of the flat serves. The string bed did soften and that improved my efforts. Again, I might drop the tension a few pounds to obtain some extra pop on my flat serves.

    Tension maintenance: Best tension maintenance from a poly I have ever used. This string is a 3rd generational poly and enhanced tension holding is advertised by Tourna. They delivered on that claim. I am at the 12 hour mark in testing and at this point my regular set-up is overcooked. If I can get 14-16 hours from this set-up, that will be a solid enhancement. The tension maintenance will make this a nice price/performer.

    Overall comments and feedback: Very impressed by this new offering from Tourna. This string will be a bit more costly over other "Big Hitter" offerings but well worth it in my case. I loved the tight spin it produced, the consistant power and wonderful control. Comfort was about as expected. I never have had a problem with discomfort so I might not be the best to judge. No arm, wrist or shoulder issues repotred by this tester. I am told a set will be appox $9.50 and $110 per reel and a nice price/point for many.
     
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    I am really excited about this string and I can't wait to try it. Has anyone tried Kirschbaum Spiky Shark? How does big hitter black 7 compare to spiky shark?
     
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  39. frunk

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    Well hot damn. After a number of hours of goating, the BHB7 has broken. Looking forward to restringing with the other half set.
     
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  40. bad_call

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    reads like the comfort, control and power level (lack of rather) are worth a demo for this player. not sure about the slightly negative aspects for flat serves tho. doubtful about giving up flat bombs that B5E hybrid consistently delivers. maybe time for this old guy to use more spin serves?...

    pvaudio - look forward to your B5E hybrid comparison.
     
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  41. Nojoke

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    I'd also be curious is PV is finding the same extended tension maintenance that has been mentioned. I love BHBR, but find it loses control somewhat quickly due to tension loss and hoped that this string might preserve some of that goodness for a longer time.
     
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  42. pvaudio

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    I like this stuff so much, I haven't cut it out yet. I normally playtest something and then cut it out once I realize it's just not my cup of tea. I really want to see how this stuff fares. Unfortunately, I don't have any more BHB7 to make a hybrid,b ut I will have a B5E/Xcel FO hybrid to report tonight :)

    Oh, and I guess the Wilson string too.
     
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  43. SteveI

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    PV... I sent out that 33 feet to you over a week ago. Please keep me informed about its' status. I will feel real bad if USPS lost it..

    Drop me e-mail..

    Steve
     
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  44. Nojoke

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    How many hours do you have on it? Are you noticing a degradation in the string's performance yet?
     
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  45. SteveI

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    I have 12 Plus hours on mine..and still going strong.. Very impressed.
     
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  46. TenFanLA

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    For those who have tried both, can you directly compare BHBR and BHB7 in terms of power, control, spin, feel, tension maintenance, etc? In what area(s) does BHB7 outshine BHBR, and vice versa?
     
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  47. Nojoke

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    Sounds good. How many hours would you get with bhbr?
     
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  48. pvaudio

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    Wait what? You sent more than the original set I reviewed? If that's the case, then no, I didn't get anything :(
     
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  49. SteveI

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    I have not used the rough versions of Big Hitter. I am very experieced with non-rough versions. In those two strings.. 10-12 hours tops.
     
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  50. bad_call

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    SteveI - is the BHB7 launchy? also by chance have you tried B5E and if so how does it compare? TIA.
     

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