Towsend and Australian Open 2013

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by julian, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. TCF

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    Ana Konjuh is from Dubrovnik and as far as internet says, she trained there with father and croatian trainer from her 6 year.

    Laslo Djere also train in local club in his hometown Senta, struggled with finances, winters train in some adopted warehouse. Story similar to Nole and Ana in their teenage years.


    You are correct Rina regarding people from Dinaric Alps. Especially part named Hercegovina (background of Dubrovnik ) is full of tall men and women. Man under 1.80 m or 6` is considered small in that region.
     
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    So, you really don't need best academy in the world to become a good junior player or even a pro! Thanks for info Olybel.
     
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    Great...

    commentary. Moral hazard problems abound in a great sport.
     
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    Okay...

    I apologize. That said I did mean to show some empathy to the age fudging that seems to occur. However, it is totally fair to call me out on the other aspects of the comments that are without proof, especially regarding a minor.
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    I will say that LeBron had to deal with the age questions for almost a decade. It is not a left field conversation in today's sports world.
     
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    As previously pointed out this is utter crap. BTW, it's not the TD's job to give credit to every wack job parent who protests and claims so and so player is not the age they claim. If that was the case how would any tournament be played? Protests of these types have to be made through the governing body and if you are going to protest someones age, you better have some proof, like a birth announcement from a newspaper. If you don't know how to protest through the proper channels, you don't deserve to have a kid playing the game.
     
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    Ana Konjuh has just turned 15. She is already playing 18s tournaments and Futures. A girl as good as her would more likely to "fake" her age older and not younger so that she can start her professional career earlier. If a small number of kids did fake their age younger to win a few more matches in the younger division, they would surely be losers down the road. Good kids would always like to play up to improve faster. Common sense?:confused:
     
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    Transition fom TOP ITF Junior to Top ATP

    Please see
    http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_61566_original.PDF

    Pages 11-13

    A quote
    FINDINGS
    Analysis of Top 10 ITF Junior Circuit players from 1996 – 2005 who
    achieved a Top 100 ATP Tour rank in their career, indicated:
    (1) 58% of players who achieved a Top 10 ITF Junior rank between
    1996-2005 achieved a career high Top 100 ATP Tour Rank.
    (2) First ITF Pro Circuit rank achieved at 17.6 years.
    (3) Transition time from first year-end rank to Top 100 ATP Tour of 4.3
    years at an age of 20.8 years.
    (4) Highest ATP Tour rank achieved approximately two years after
    entering ATP Tour Top 100 at 23.0 years with an average of 3.7 years
    inside Top 100 rank.
    (5) Players competed in 36 ITF Junior Circuit events and participated in
    110 matches between age 14-18 years.
    (6) Players competed in 41 ITF Pro Circuit / ATP Tour events and
    participated in 84 matches between age 15 – 18 years.
    (7) Career W:L Ratio of 1.6:1 on ATP Tour, 1.9:1 on the ITF Pro Circuit and
    3.3:1 on the ITF Junior Circuit.
    (8) The ranking benchmarks from Table 5 could be used as an indicator
    prior to a Top 100 ATP Tour ranking
     
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    Would that suggest that 41% of Top 100 ATP players did not rank top 10 in Junior ITF or completely skipped the junior ITF? Like Williams sisters?
     
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    No I meant 42%:oops:
     
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    Taylor updated: new fitness training

    Found this on Paretingaces twitter.

    Taylor is addressing the fitness issue with the new fitness routine. Seems like she is on the right track. Hope to see her progressing well at the pro level. Good Luck with the next tournament.

    http://vimeo.com/58258940
     
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    Pretty cool. That looks like what I expect a future professional athlete to be doing. Nice.
     
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    Good for her. Hopefully it pays dividends for her.
     
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    I think it means that 42% of the top 10 ITF players never make it into the top 100 of the ATP
     
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