Trouble losing weight

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  1. Cameron

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    Hi everyone,

    So I'm a DI college player and I'm 5'8'' 132 pounds and my body fat is 17.5. I've been home training really hard over the break to get ready for our spring season. I was trying to get in better shape and eat really healthy and lose some weight over the break. I've been eating 1200 calories and working out with weights and lots of cardio everyday plus tennis practice every day so I definitely have a deficit of the amount of calories I'm consuming and burning. And I'm also drinking a lot of water. I've been doing this since I got home before Christmas and have not lost a pound. I'm just super confused and frustrated that I haven't been successful and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. So any advice you guys have would be so helpful. Thank you!!
     
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  2. v-verb

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    You're probably losing fat and gaining muscle. Don't worry. Eat right, train hard and get plenty of sleep.

    You'll see a difference in a few weeks/months
     
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    Hopefully, but I doubt anyone could gain muscle on only 1200 calories a day.
    1200 is way too low you need 1500 minimum for a person of your size if you are working out vigorously everyday. Your diet should consist of a moderate calorie deficit and be high in protein. About 35-40% of your calories should be protein so that makes 130-140 grams of protein per day which will be difficult to get unless you supplement.
     
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    I thought maybe it was muscle too but I don't think so... You think I should eat more? I feel like I have enough energy and I'm scared ill gain weight. I understand I need enough to fuel my body it just doesn't make sense why I haven't lost anything despite working so hard. Maybe less carbs and more protein?
     
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    OHBH makes a lot of sense. You need to eat enough so your body doesn't go into starvation mode.

    But you should really get some expert advice - see a nutritionist and get the real scoop
     
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    Are you a male or female?

    If your a male, IMO you are under weight. 5'8" 132lbs.? Wow, hopefully your all muscle.

    If your a female, something is not right, 17% body fat is not healthily.
     
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    I'd have to agree with Tennishacker, regardless of being a male or female, your BMI is in the optimal range. And if you are a female, you are already in the acceptable range for athletes.

    So I guess the question I would like to ask is: why do you feel like you need to lose weight?
     
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    Are you saying that's too high? Women carry more fat and 17% is about right on.
     
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    I'm wondering why this player hasn't made this inquiry of her trainer and /or nutritionist ...?
     
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    I'm a girl, sorry I didn't say that, and I will ask my trainers but I'm home for break so I'm not in contact with them at the moment. I guess I just feel like I should lose weight but maybe I'm wrong. Is 17% too high for body fat?
     
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    First off, it has only been a few weeks so I would continue to stay at it. Some people lose weight easier than others, but ultimately a calorie deficit will work.

    Secondly, are you sure you are counting your calories correctly? If you are guestimating in your head, instead I would get a calorie counter and actually keep record.
     
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    Yes I understand and I've been using a calorie counter and keeping track of everything...
     
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    The scales stay the same sometimes, out of nowhere they drop and very often it keeps going down for a few days. I believe when fat cells empty, they temporarily fill with water, when it goes is when you see the drop on the scales.

    That usually happens for me after I let myself go a bit. I hadn't lost weight for a month before Christmas, I relaxed for a few days, put on 5 lbs in water weight and now a week into the new year, i'm 7lbs lighter than before Christmas! Weird how it happens like that.
     
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    In my opinion, I really feel this is something you need to consult with your trainers and possibly a nutritionist first. The numbers that you have provided are all optimal values for someone of your build and gender, with the 17% body fat and BMI being just right. You have to understand, as a female your body fat percentage will always need to be higher than that of a male (from a biological and physiological stand point), so there should not be much reason for you to achieve a lower weight and body fat percentage.

    If you're hoping to improve on court performance, then there should be an alternative to it rather than just losing weight, since losing weight for the sake of being lighter and having lower body fat percentage does not necessarily correlate to better athletic ability/performance...
     
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    Spot on!

    The OP may want to set other fitness goals (specific goals for speed, agility, or endurance) and see if she can meet those first rather than simply worrying about weight.
     
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    You're in excellent shape based on the info you provided as a DI college female athlete. That bf is consistent with good female athletes but how was it measured - calipers, bod pod, or just one of those electronic scales or hand grips? The problem with the scales and grips is that they use an electric current to determine bf and tend to report a lower bf than what's really there. So your bf could be higher than 17%, but if it was with calipers (7pt test) or bod pod, it's legit.

    The reason I ask if because if your bf is really 17%, my main question is why are you working out to lose weight vs just maintain your level of conditioning? Has your coach suggested it or do you feel you need to be lighter for speed purposes? If it's speed, I wouldn't worry about the weight and focus more on actual speed drills. If it was bf based on scales/grips and your "real" bf is 3-5% higher, then it would be less of an issue to drop weight.

    But first off, at your level of conditioning if that 17% is spot on, it's going to just take longer to see any changes. How many weeks has it been, just before xmas = ~2 weeks? How many calories were you taking in before this diet?


     
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    I think this is really good advice and I think you're right, no one has told me I need to lose weight I just thought I should and I'm a perfectionist so when I couldn't lose weight it frustrated me but I think it would be maybe unhealthy for me to lose weight as a DI athlete. Thank you for the advice and I will definitely talk to my trainer.
     
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    I took a body composition test at my school which is supposed to be more accurate than a bod pod. It reads bf, weight of different body parts, hydration, lean muscle mass and all this other stuff so it's pretty legit. And no one suggested I need to lose weight actually they probably wouldn't be happy if they knew I was trying so maybe I should just focus on getting in the best shape possible. Thanks for your help.
     
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    I'm sorry, but would you mind posting a picture of your physique? Cover your face if you wish, but I truly cannot picture a D1 level athlete who is that skinny but yet not mostly muscular. If anything, you could stand to gain at least 10lbs of LBM. Those four things usually are found in pairs maybe (5.8 and a D1 player or 132lbs and 17.5PBF, but not all on the same person). I am very curious as to what you look like if you think you need to lose body fat instead of gain muscle.
     
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    Ah, this changes the picture entirely. Your stats are actually spot on for a high level female athlete. Disregard my prior post, I assumed you were a male Cameron. :)
     
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    5'8 and 132 at 17% BF sounds about right for a female athlete. I'd focus on eating healthy and maintaining body mass while exercising. You should be taking in way more than 1200 calories a day. At 1200 calories and that much activity, you're running on fumes. Eat enough to support your level of activity. You don't need to lose any weight and trying to keep 1200 calories is going to kill your metabolism and energy levels.
     
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    OP, have a look at this chart. It is a tad small as I can't find the original, but it shows the differences between athletic BF levels for different percentages across men and women.

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    This page is also interesting: http://paindatabase.com/body-fat/
     
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  23. jonnythan

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    That chart is useless BS.
     
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    Not particularly, no. The original is part of a much larger set of information regarding BF levels and LBM levels. The point of the original is that 15% for a male means nothing without knowing their LBM. For example:

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    That is why I was astounded to hear that a D1 player was that tall, but that thin and had that high of a BF% as they should be much heavier due to a larger than normal amount of LBM. Since that assumption was for a male, it no longer holds.
     
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    And OP, yeah, I'm not sure why you think you need to lose weight. You're simply an athlete. My fiancee played D2 tennis and no one in the world would be able to guess her weight because she just has an extraordinary amount of muscle mass at only 5ft tall.
     
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    I've seen that "chart" many times at all kinds of forums. It really is useless. The pictures are all of different people and all the numbers are simply guesses.

    I've seen some much, much more useful charts that feature a single person at various measured body fat percentages.
     
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    Looks like you already have a very good body composition. If you want to improve your fitness for tennis you will need to set more fitness related goals such as sprint times, mile times, and increasing the number of push-up and pull-ups you can do. Goals like that will improve your tennis much more. Andy Murray greatly improved his serve after improving his upper body strength, he can do 20+ pull-ups now, for example.
     
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    I do not see any reason that you need to lose weight from that pic.
     
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  30. sureshs

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    But I realized I do :)
     
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    Thank goodness.

    'Cause I'm not seeing myself on that chart.

    Or perhaps more accurately, I'm not seeing myself on the top row. :(
     
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  32. LeeD

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    Those tests don't account for different body types.
    I know several 5'8" athletic women (full sport scholarships, basketball and volleyball) who were heavier than you, but were broad built.
    Of course, I know several model types at 5'8" who weighed in around 115lbs., totally no reserve, always getting flus or colds, no resistance, and hand to eat a regular schedule.
    Healthy is more important than looking skinny for the boyz. At your weight, average built, you're about right in weight.
    Get in shape, don't bother obsessing about your weight.
     
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  33. sureshs

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    LeeD knows a lot of women
     
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  34. LeeD

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    I oughta, I'm older than most, and have dated more 5'8" tall women who played sports than anyone would dare count.
    Worse, I'm 5'11" and bouncing from 142 lbs in summer to 160 4 days ago.
     
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    thanks everyone for the help... I guess right now I need the muscle and strength for my sport so losing weight might not be a good idea...
     
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    That sounds very true. Eat sensibly/healthy and do your sport and the weight will more or less handle itself.
     
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    Aim middle row anyway. Those are the most attractive bodies.

    Your an athlete so weight isnt your worry. Performance is. If your feeling out of shape than address your strength or cardio needs but leave the scale out of it. your not a figure athlete your a tennis player no need to care about your body fat %.
     
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    Bingo. That about wraps this up.
     
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  40. hobnob

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    5"8, 132 lbs, 17.5% body fat... you're pretty healthy actually.

    You are in the right area for your body fat for women, especially for an athelete.
    http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

    Women are suppose to carry more body fat than men.

    1200 calories is waaay too little for you since you're so active and training for your spring session. The body goes into starvation mode when it doesn't get enough calories in and you're exerting too much energy over a prolonged period of time.

    I'm not a certified trainer or professional, just someone who has struggled with my weight all my life and read up and know enough on weight maintenance and loss.



     
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    haha I use a wilson hyper carbon prostaff 6.1 and its so old, I've been playing with it since I started at 11 years old... I'm 20 now haha
     
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    And thank you all so much for the advice and encouragement. I am about to start season now, back at school and working hard, I'm just going to focus on healthy eating and getting stronger and in better shape and hopefully have a successful season... I'm going to talk to the trainer who did my body composition test today, so hopefully she can help me too.

    Random question, I'm just curious, but what kind of body type on a girl do you guys think is most attractive?
     
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    Don't lose weight. You are probably either in or slightly below optimal performance weight. If you want to get faster, work on speed, if you need endurance work on that but you don't need to lose weight.
     
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    There's definitely nothing wrong with your weight. I feel there is a spectrum of definitions as to what is attractive, but in the end I think most would agree that as long as you're comfortable and confident in your own body guys/men will have an inherent attraction to you.
     
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    weight

    I would just focus in on your tennis training and tennis performance, sleeping, eating and track them and how u play in your in matches. Plus don't forget the mental side of tennis in your matches just as important!! Your weight height ratio is fine. If tennis was just about having a nice body Kournikova would have won more slams than the Williams sisters. I would weigh in before each training and match and weigh after just to check on how much u need to drink to recover. Good luck with your tennis!
    PS: You look great in your black bikini!!
     
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  47. hobnob

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    I'm a female, but I have to say you look amazing! Don't lose any more weight!

    Don't believe the media either, I know a lot of males that say they want a healthy (non anorexic) looking female. Looks may attract a guy at first, but in the end, it's personality, confidence, sense of humor etc that will really make you stand out! Keep up the training and stay healthy!


     
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    Don't bother wiith your weight.
    Get more fit, more tone, more strong.
     
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    You are good - you don't want to get much lower than 17% as a woman. If you do, you will have lots of other issues; like not having periods, etc.

    Best not to go there.

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