TSONGA... again?

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  1. swedechris

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    JO Tsonga looked on fire in the 1st round.. great serves and super movement and groundies and volleys. soft feel mixed with very very brutal pace and power.he could very well be a contender again this year down under..
     
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  2. Fiercer

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    He was injured, and had a surgery. What else did you expect?

    I am just glad he is finding his form again. :)
     
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  3. edberg505

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    What is most impressive about Tsonga is that he missed over half the season and still qualified for the YEC.
     
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    or that could be an indicator of the lack of depth in the field.
     
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  5. swedechris

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    IMO he is a very good player . and it will show this year , like it did last when he was around and could play.
     
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    true, with rookies like those spanish and swiss chaps. j/k.

    I think the guy is immensely talented. Fast legs, power and touch in hands. Someho a lot of folks here don't seem to think he is talented.
     
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  7. swedechris

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    just an idea .. pure specualtion .. maybe they are scared of him .. the sub conscious silly fear factor,Muhammed Ali similiarity and black and all of that..
     
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  8. edberg505

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    What I don't get is the same people that call him over rated comes back and later says that a certain person's draw is tough because Tsonga's on that person's side of the draw. So which one is it?
     
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    we have a saying in my country for that: you cant have sun in the corn fields and rain in the letuces!
     
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    I think he's a great player with a fun style and lots of passion that has had a tough time staying healthy. I hope his back stays healthy and we get a classic Murray/Tsonga rematch.
     
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    Not lack of depth, but parity in the field where players win so much against each other that it becomes difficult to stand out.
     
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    Honestly, what's not to like about Tsonga? He can do everything, he seems like a nice guy, but still shows personallity on the court. He's a great player who has a good comeback story.
     
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    Firstly Tsonga has been injury prone since coming onto the pro tour.

    His junior accomplishments marked him for success prior to that and he finally stayed healthy long enough to gain needed experience and make the adjustments necessary at this new level.

    Also many truly good to great players had to go through a second adjustment period after making their first big splash on a truly big stage like a Major. See Sampras, Moya, Safin, etc. here. That's even if they can make that adjustment.

    Then, like most athletes in most sports, if they went through a valley afterward, and they return to a venue where they had some success, it can cut two ways. To much pressure to repeat or all those good feelings of their prior success return.

    Baghdatis went one way, Tsonga may go the other. Both have been done before.

    But as another poster said after recovering from injury, again, it seemed like Tsonga regained his equillibrium much like Djoker did, by the end of last year anyway.

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    Agree with Nadal Freak here. He can play for sure, but I don't like his attitude. Blaming the ball kids, for example
     
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    Man, Nadal fans are always harping on players for non-tennis reasons. These guys aren't UN ambassadors, they're athletes. Say something about their tennis or STFU.
     
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  16. oranges

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    Tsonga forever. Great game, great guy, great on-court presence. May he be healthy.
    Fans of players with genuinely obnoxious behavior or habits protesting, how ironic. It's a coincidence he kicked one's ass at AO and the other's ever since.
     
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    Just giving my opinion. If you don't like it your problem.

    Other players are often bashed here for "non-tennis" reasons, so why would we have to STFU about Tsonga or Federer only.
     
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    Is Tsonga's back still injured?
     
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    Completely agree.
     
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    I love the big man's game - Tsonga V Murray would be the pick of the QFs for me. Still can't get over him blaming the ballkids at Shanghai though.
     
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    Probably because there are a lot of people here who don't feel compelled to do it even when that is the topic of the thread. But they're probably the type who don't feel the need to talk in movie theaters either.

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    Well you didn't hear me bash anyone for off-court crap, because I could care less. Tsonga has a great tennis game, all kinds of power followed up with hands that would make Pat Rafter blush. Honestly, so what if player X made a comment in the press or said something after a match. You would think as a Djokovic fan you would be annoyed of this garbage as well, maybe taken the high road. Now are you going to start poaching every comment that Tsonga makes? Make every thread about how arrogant he is? This stuff gets really old to me, and that's why I bring it up. Just giving my opinion as well.
     
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    I sure hope this kid stays healthy. Wonderful personality, huge game, soft hands...simply a joy to watch.
     
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    Ed ... you have selective vision. I don't see you complaining about your fellow Federer fans 'harping' on players such as Andy Murray simply because he beat your man a few times! What goes around comes around!

     
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    I sure hope you don't bring up his peronality as an excuse for not liking him when he starts kicking your favourite players off the court. :)
     
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    Anyways to answer the question, no ... I can't stand Jo Willy!

    Losing matches only to blame the ball boys & ball girls is not my idea of a great on court persona! I can't wait to see this guy play Federer and get thrashed in straight sets! Is he in Federer's half?
     
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    OK then, I dislike him because I hate his game. Good enough?! LOL!

     
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    No he's not. It's funny because he likes acting like a bully but against Fed in Madrid, he seemed almost coy: his loud, in your face attitude went completely AWOL! It was quite a transformation to witness...
     
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    No, no. You should dislike him becuase he beats your favorite player. :p

    Well, no. He'll have to thrash Murray and Nadal before he can get thrash or get thrashed by Federer. ;)
     
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    You might be right because I can't think of a single poster on this board who harps on Murray's personality every chance they get. Can you? I do know that Nadal_Freak and Gj011 have probably made 3 or 4 thousand post collectively on how arrogant they think Federer is. Now it's Tsonga? Like I said, when you see the same name, post the same thing over and over again it gets old.
     
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    Are there any non-Djoko non-Nadal fans who dislike the guy? Not to mention the thread actually has a different topic.
     
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    ROFL X 20!

    Jo Willy for all his antics on the court, does have a little bit of intelligence. He probably knew that Federer would take him to the cleaners if he acted in his usual pompous way!

    By the way, you'll see that 'transformation' every time he plays Roger!

     
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    You haven't seen one post from Federer fans about Murray's 1-dimensional game or his boring personality? Give me a break, Ed! I'm not gonna go searching but should Murray beat Federer at the AO, you'll have all the evidence you need!

     
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  34. veroniquem

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    I've seen a lot of criticism of Murray's personality actually (and playing style). Maybe we haven't been reading the same threads...
     
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    I honestly don't see anything he does different than Nadal on court. Well, I take that back, Tsonga doesn't shout allez/vamos when an opponent hits a shot into the net. Other than that no difference to me.
     
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    It doesn't really matter. The bottom line is I can't stand the guy.

    By the way, I'm disappointed to hear he ain't in Federer's half. That means he won't get far enough to play Federer this year!

     
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    1-dimensional? Who on earth posted that? Could you provide a link? And well his personality is boring, but I don't watch tennis to see personality.
     
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    OMG, he needs to take the ass-picker to cleaners once again to justify this pathetic obsession.
     
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    ...and so goes another thread.

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  40. He doesn't do the flying fist pump or donkey-face, either.
     
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  41. veroniquem

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    Is it me or has Tsonga put on weight since last year? He seemed heavier to me...
     
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  42. Fiercer

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    Nor does he look like he is pissed off and hates the world the whole time either. :mad:

    ;)
     
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  43. seffina

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    Maybe, but he was still moving very well in his first game.


    I missed the ball boys/girls incident. Doesn't matter, though. I still enjoy watching him on the court.
     
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  44. veroniquem

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    Well, the difference is that Nadal is 14 months younger than Tsonga, has won 5 slams, 31 titles, 12 master series, 1 olympic gold yet doesn't brag all the time and doesn't yell at ball kids. Other than that very little difference I agree.
     
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    Umm, what the heck does all of that have to do with they way the celebrate winning points? That's what I was talking about.
     
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    Rafa doesn't celebrate winning points like that all the time at all. Only if it was a break point or a crucial point.
     
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    Come on' 505! It's one thing to be pompous on court when you're a multiple slam winner, as Nadal & Federer are, but it's an entirely different thing when all you have to show is a master's series title!

    In any case, I don't necessarily agree that they have the same on court behavior. There's a reason why Nadal is immensely more popular in tournaments all around the world than Jo Willy!

     
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  48. edberg505

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    Well, you could have fooled me.
     
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    Agreed again.
     
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  50. edberg505

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    No, I don't see a difference. Sorry. I'd be ok with me if neither of them did it at all.
     
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