Tsonga forehand lacking extension?

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  1. Mikael

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    Anyone else feel the same? Instead of hitting through the ball it seems like he is almost just "slapping" the ball.

    Check out these pics:

    http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImage...cles/Forehand/2008_08_19_complete_tsonga2.JPG

    http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0505/6997/122519_feature.jpg

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Media/Images/Photo-Galleries/2009/Halle/tues1jpg.aspx


    His cramped forehand technique certainly contradicts what virtually all pros advocate, which is the extension of the hitting arm...
     
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  2. dincuss

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    Many pros use a double bend forehand, Djokovic would be another example....
     
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  3. Mikael

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    I mean extension after impact, not extension at impact.
     
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  4. SourStraws

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    Some pros dont need to extend as much because of the amount of repetition on their strokes whereas a regular player needs to extend in order to have a good shot

    S.S.
     
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  5. Falloutjr

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    He's the #8 player in the world; he's obviously doing something right :p Sometimes the form most people would recommend isn't what works for everyone. You teach form to get repetitive point of impact. If Tsonga's point of contact is the same as any other form, it really doesn't make much difference other than how it looks.
     
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  6. Mikael

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    Yeah, I guess it works. I'd never seen any other player with that kind of form though, slapping the ball. Some have more extension than others, but sometimes it seems like Tsonga has almost 0 extension.
     
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  7. ScovilleJenkins

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    seems like he keeps the same elbow bend all the way through the stroke
     
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  8. NamRanger

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    He hits an eastern forehand that's why it appears the way it does.
     
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  9. Rjtennis

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    Those are a just a couple pics but I cant imagine he does not extend more. All of the pros extend their arm to make early contact with the ball. You could not generate power like he does just using your arm.
     
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  11. ubermeyer

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    when you can hit it that hard, you aren't doing much wrong
     
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  13. ubermeyer

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    you obviously don't watch tennis. Nadal uses extreme western...
     
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  14. ms87

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    you are wrong. nadal uses a semi western grip. there are countless pictures to confirm this, as well as a video on youtube where rafa himself declares it (with racquet in hand).
     
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  15. lilxjohnyy

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    whenever i see cilic play, it looks like he slaps a lot of forehand... but maybe its just me .
     
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  16. akv89

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    He more than compensates for it with the power he generates from his legs and rotating his hips.
     
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  17. Migelowsky

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    Yes his elbow is always locked, but it works for him,
    although I don't think is a good model to copy.
    Jim Courier also had a similar forehand, and if you take Monica Seles
    right hand out of her swing it would look similar.
    I tried to find a pic of Monica's forehand after contact but just
    was able to find this one

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  18. Tsonga#1fan

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    I don't know what you guys call an "eastern" forehand grip, but Tsonga's is anything but that. At the very least, it is sem-western and seems to be more western. It would be difficult to have that compact follow through motion and not have more extension with an eastern grip. Look at how his wrist is cocked well behind the racquet on follow through. Western.
     
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  19. Andres

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    He doesn't. He uses a semi western.
     
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  20. Anaconda

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    Tsonga's forehand is fine and can hammer it - he just needs to tone the power down a little and play % better.
     
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  21. NamRanger

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    It's definitely eastern.
     
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  22. jazzyfunkybluesy

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    Agreed his forehand is one of the top 10 in the game. I am interested to see which Babolat he will use. (Not paint job)
     
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  23. Tsonga#1fan

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    If that is eastern, it's the most western looking eastern I've ever seen!
     
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