Tsonga should chose topspin 1hbh or 2hbh and stick with it?

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Tsonga should chose topspin 1hbh or 2hbh and stick with it?

  1. Yes, he should only hit 1hbh's

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  2. Yes, he should only hit 2hbh's

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  3. No, he should use either depending on the situation

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  4. No, he should use neither

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    18.8%
  1. tank_job

    tank_job Banned

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    A tennis pro needs possibly millions and millions of repetitions of a groundstroke to make it a pro-worthy shot.

    They need to have started hitting either a 1hbh or a 2hbh at the age of 2, and hit it for 12 hours a day until they are 20 - only then will it be a pro-ready shot.

    The grip, the swing path, the contact point - everything is set in stone at the age of 2 - and merely reinforced for those decades and decades of practice and billions and billions of repetitions.

    Having said all of this, how can Tsonga randomly decide he wants to hit a 1hbh instead of a 2hbh?

    There is no time for him now to complete the billions of repetitions needed to internalize a completely alien stroke. If he starts now and practices the 1hbh for 12 hours a day every day - he will be 40 by the time he has a 'pro-ready' 1hbh shot.

    Who cares if a 1hbh offers more reach on a passing shot - he has internalized a 2hbh, therefore he should use it for ALL situations. Does Federer use a 2hbh when returning serve? No, he dies with his ineffective technique, which is what Tsonga should do.

    If he had a coach, none of this craziness would be happening.

    What should Jo Willy do?
     
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  2. MethodTennis

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    I think its a bit like the open closed stance debate here. 9 times outa 10 you want to be open but there is also a time when the more closed shot is the correct choice. So similarly although his stronger 2 hander is almost always the right shot, for an extra bit of reach, or when passing his oponent off of a shorter volley the extra feel and touch a 1 hander provides may be of benefit.

    I dont think we should criticise the decision to play it too much. Watch it the flight path of his 1hb and 2hb is pretty much identical it his body rotation and what his left hand is doing that changes.
     
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  3. WhiskeyEE

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    Tsonga is an elite athlete. You have zero idea how long it would take him to develop a viable 1-hander.
     
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  4. WhiskeyEE

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    This is true. I can hit both a 2hbh and 1hbh. Normally I hit a 2-hander, but sometimes I go for the 1-hander. Usually if I'm stretched out wide and have an open court.
     
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  5. tank_job

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    I'm pretty sure he started using it in matches no earlier than 2011, so it is far, far too late.

    Imagine if Fed suddenly stated using a 2hbh, how ridiculous that would be.

    You just can't change your strokes even a tiny bit once you're a pro - any slightly modification would be undoing decades of muscle memory, and you would have to start from scratch.
     
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  6. Murrayfan31

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    If he is stretched wide, he should go for the 1hbh. The same says for everyone who wants to be a pro these days.
     
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    We are talking TOPSPIN 1hbh here u kno...

    Everyone, even Djokovic goes to a 1hbh slice when stretched wide, Tsonga is the only 2hbh one who hits his 1hbh with topspin.
     
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  8. dcdoorknob

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    I voted "no, he should use neither," because sure, that makes sense. The 3 handed BH or the 0 handed BH are both better options.

    :shock: :lol:
     
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  9. WhiskeyEE

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    No... it wouldn't. Just like a forehand drop shot doesn't undo decades of muscle memory for the topspin forehand. It's a distinct stroke and he can learn and use it. He doesn't have to slice just because he's been doing that since he was a kid. Maybe his topspin 1 hander is good enough that it's better to use than his slice in certain situations.
     
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  10. CRWV

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    For better or worse, he will never be the machinistic djok type (i don't mean that negatively, djok at his best is awe inspiring forhis precision/ consistency.) If he tried to be play that way, I think he would end up looking like roddick does now...
     
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  11. Netspirit

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    He should swing the human racket.
     
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