tsonga using new racquet?

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  1. nick726

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    just saw some pics fom the madrid tourny and it looks like tsonga's racquet is different. it looked like it had more orange than the kblade. anyone know anything?
     
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  2. OliverSimon

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    Ya!! I seem to notice the same thing. I don't think it is. Maybe the way the Kblade looks on a clay court. I saw the same thing with Kolschriber
     
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  3. YonexRDX

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    i think its just the clays reflection onto the racket but a good notice
     
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  4. alextennis0805

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    yea i was also wondering
     
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  5. 10isplayer

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    i think it was just the lighting at that particular moment
     
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  6. leonidas1982

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    They've changed his paintjob to the KBT. That's all. Same racket as always.
     
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  7. Crisp

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    K Pro Tour 96

    According to t o p s e r v e Tennis Jo is using the K Pro Tour 96 now. Of course it would be just a paint job of that model tho.
     
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  8. NickC

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    He's always had that paintjob....or for the past year and a half and then some....

    Look at his videos from the AO2008. Same PJ as the one he's got now, I believe.
     
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  9. leonidas1982

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    It went back and forth. Started with Tour then 98. And with Novak's departure, it is back to Tour. In the end it is still a European ProStaff (hyper I think) 95.
     
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  11. lidoazndiabloboi

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    it looks like hes still still using the kblade pj at madrid
     
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  12. NickC

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    When was this? He always had the Tour PJ, IIRC. Had it in Melbourne last year and hasn't changed since.
     
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  13. NovakWannabe

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    False, it's not a HPS6.1 European spec. It's a Hyper Pro Staff 6.5. The ancestor of the KBlade and nBlade.
     
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  14. therogerfan

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    is it a Kobra PJ at World Team Championship ?
     
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  15. beckham

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    It appears Tsonga is using a new PJ.

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  16. NickC

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    Huh? An absolutely bizzare move by Wilson. He's the top-ranked player for Wilson that uses the K-Blade PJ, and even though he doesn't sell a ton of frames, he still makes top 10 in the world, so you make him endorse not a player's frame, but a APD rip-off? Strange.
     
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  17. OliverSimon

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    I guess they need somone sponsoring this frame?
    Maybe its not selling well. Interesting move by wilson

    To me the head looks a little rounder maybe its the actual frame?
     
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  18. leonidas1982

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    In your attempt to sound superior, you failed to recognize that I never stated he uses/used HPS 6.1
     
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  19. jmverdugo

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    I know it must be a PJ but it really looks like the real thing, I think he used to have PWS and I cant see them right now and the throat looks really like the kobra.
     
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  20. jazar

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    its not selling well at all. i would hazard a guess at saying its wilsons least popular racket (at least in the store i work at, and we have wilsons full range). i think the reason for its lack of selling is the fact that there has been no out there using it. if tsonga is making the switch to it (or to its pj or whatever) then its sales will pick up.
     
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  21. Look carefully at the throat. It is not the shape of the kobra. It is more Box-like.
     
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  22. sliderman365

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    the colors are sick i think tsonga should get a new pj everytime he gets a new outfit so his racket matches his clothes
     
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  23. Tsonga nDance

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    WTF.Wow so much respect lost for Wilson by me. To think that they would give him that toy stick to play with is just unexcusable.:-?
     
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  24. therogerfan

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    The racquet head looks very big for some reason
     
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  25. maximo

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    Perhaps Tsonga is changing brand?

    Heard some rumours that he might be switching to Prince.
     
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  26. Jchurch

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    It's not that bad of a racket. I like much more than the APDC. It give good power on serves and ground strokes, but is lacking a little in frame stability. It is nice to have a HL frame that weighs so little.
     
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  27. OliverSimon

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    I only think those rumors were of him actually just changing to the Kobra PJ
     
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    Yah it looks like a real one, but not sure:-?
     
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  29. imalil2gangsta4u

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    anyone have some pics?
     
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  30. SFrazeur

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    It looks like an actual Kobra Tour mold racquet to me. I really, really liked that racquet myself. Very nice playing stick.

    -SF
     
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  31. Argentino a morir

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    deffinetly no paint job. the raquet has no PWS. and the shape has a huge difference to his previous racquet.
     
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  32. scraps234

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    yeah i dont think its a paint job either and it isnt that bad... maybe he did switch... btw imalil2gangsta4u pics on 1st page
     
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  33. jetlee2k

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    The worse racket I ever hit with.. This Kobra Tour is like kid racket at Kmart.. A wilson guy drop it off for me few months ago and it's terrible.. !! What's up with Wilson? the new Kobra line is a copy cat, full of gimmick and terrible..
     
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  34. Tsonga nDance

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    Yea it may be good for you guys but really now, Wilson is jeopardizing my boy's chances at Wimbledon. He OBVIOUSLY already has more than enough power himself so what the heck was the point of giving him a 100sq.in frame? For the sake of his fans, I hope he puts that money back on the table. ASAP.
     
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  35. SFrazeur

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    Apparently I am one of the few who thinks it's a great racquet with a good combination of power, spin, control and decent feel. The swing weight is about 15-20 points too low, though.

    If you guys want to experience an truly crappy Wilson racquet hit with the nVision sometime. It played like a plastic covered wire coat hanger.

    -SF
     
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  36. sliderman365

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    i think he got the pj just to match his clothes
     
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  37. jazar

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    i agree with you. before i hit with it i was a little biased against it and the first time i hit with it i think that bias affected my judgement of it. but the second time i hit with it i thought it was great. i much prefer the kobra tour and the kobra team fx to the apdc
     
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  38. srvnvly

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    Also agree that 1) it does have good weight and spin, I would add balance is good as well; and 2) the swingweight should have been at least 320-ish. It seems Wilson has been chasing Babolat for many years now in the tweener category
     
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  39. scraps234

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    hmm well ive never hit with the nvision but i have withthe kbora and i still agree it plays great
     
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  40. Casco

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    The pj is the Kobra Tour. From the photos, it has a larger head and beam than his previous Hyper proStaff painted like a KBlade. Could be a Kobra. Someone suggested the new KProTour, but the beam in the photos looks wider - more like a Kobra Tour. Personally, I think it makes sense for Tsonga (and everyone) to go with a more modern raquet with a slightly larger face, particularly for the clay he's about to play on this weekend.
     
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  41. pcpshortbus

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    i talked to an adidas rep and he told me that they were trying to get tsonga. this is not a rumor, i heard it straight from the rep's mouth. not saying that tsonga WILL switch to adidas, but they are trying to get him.
     
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  43. Evry1hateslefties

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    Adidas is really making a huge effort to recruit more pros. If I'm not mistaken Novak Djokovic is going to be playing with adidas frames next year. Adidas is really getting into the it, and they will be a major player in the market in a few years.
     
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  44. cork_screw

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    No he's not, just say, "Tsonga pretending to use a new racquet."
     
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    Ooops..you ARE mistaken..at least if Head doesn't go "boom"...they have a 3-years agreement with Djoko... :-?
     
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  46. SFrazeur

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    Nice to see others appreciate the racquet as well.

    If I were to use Wilson racquets again it would be this one.

    -SF
     
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  47. barry

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    From what I read, Novak knew the speed Pro was inferior to his current Wilson racket, so he demanded $5,000,000 to play with it. Since he was losing Head allowed him to go back to the Wilson frame, but painted it to look like the new Speed pro.

    His results show when he switched from Wilson to Head, and then switched back to Wilson and started winning again.

    Novak is taking Head’s money and not even using their design. Tsonga appears to be using the new Kobra, thick frame, hard to paint a thin frame to appear thicker.
     
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  48. SFrazeur

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    That doesn't make sense. Wilson made a copy of his Head frame for him, are you saying instead of Head making him a Head racquet that he wants that they payed him millions to play with a Head frame that he doesn't like and now they are painting Wilson frames for him?

    -SF
     
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  49. barry

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    No! Novak was using a Wilson Frame, he was sponsored by Wilson, etc.. Head wanted him to switch to the new Speed Pro, he used it and it resulted in a total failure for him, so he went back to the original mold. It just says Head now!
     
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  50. vsbabolat

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    Sorry Barry, Novak never used the Speed Pro! His racquet since the start of 2009 have been the same: with 21mm beam width, 18x20 string pattern, and oval head shape of the Radical Midplus 98 square inch mold. Which Wilson had copied when Noavk had a contract with them.
     
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