Tsonga's frame, mystery solved...

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by spoutnik12, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. spoutnik12

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    Hi everybody,

    some months ago I posted pics of Tsonga's Aeropro in an other thread. I explained that the frame was extended. However there still was an unsolved question, was it the GT or non-GT version? I just noticed yesterday when I saw a commercial APDGT (yes I'm not really fast...) that the "GT technology" fibers (the tungsten) don't appear on my frame but on the commercial you can clearly see some kind of fibers! This part on Tsonga's frame is just plain black, no fibers! So now I assume that Tsonga's frame is a non-GT Aeropro drive +. Maybe now he's changed, but at one moment he played with the non-GT version.

    Length: 69.9 cm
    Weight: 346gr (strung, dampener, without overgrip)
    Balance: 33.1 cm
    Gripsize: #4 (4 1/2)
    Silicone in handle
    Syntec grip
    Babolat Cutom Damp Aero (with the small plastic part containing the "balls")

    One more time the pics:

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  2. Bartelby

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    I think the gt is inside the frame and whatever is on the outside is some sort of transfer.
     
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  3. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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    Can wee see a close up of the Cortex system, I think he may actually use Cortex.
     
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  4. spoutnik12

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    Yes it's a real Cortex

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  5. Harry_Randle

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    What pros use the elastic grip thing at the top of their grips???

    you sure this is his frame haha
     
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  6. Zimtack

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    ^^ what is that grip for anyway?? lol
     
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  7. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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    It is, There are no specs on inside of throat.

    And it has his name.....
     
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  8. your name

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    He doesn't use overgrips? :/
     
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  9. sixone90

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    What does the MARS on the sticker mean?
     
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  10. spoutnik12

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    @ your name: no overgrip, but Tsonga plays with an overgrip. I received his racquet brand new, so no overgrip was on the frame.

    @sixone90: "MARS" mean "march" in french, so I think it was produced in march 2010
     
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  11. PED

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    That's the planet Tsonga is from ;)

    Seriously though, I would imagine it's date the work was done on the frame by the customizer: Mars 2010= March :)
     
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  12. Shangri La

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    Have you been playing with the racquet? The grip and stencil certainly show the racquet has been used.
     
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  13. Ross K

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    Remind me someone... where's the lead placed/how much on his frame?

    TIA

    R
     
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  14. sixone90

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    played by tsonga perhaps?
     
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  15. Shangri La

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    In the post I quoted, OP said 'I received his racquet brand new'...
     
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  16. ivo

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    Thank you for the specs.

    BTW is silicone in the handle injected only in left or right half or both?
     
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  17. banter

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    Mars= March
    It's french.
     
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  18. spoutnik12

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    @ shangri La: yes, of course I have played with the racquet, I don't see the interest of keeping the frame brand new :p .Very good, the weight is perfect for me, I find the stock apdgt to be a bit too light.

    @ivo: the silicone is injected only in one side of the handle (the side where "aero modular technology is written")
     
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  19. nicolaisidek

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    Quite awesome somebody uses pro frames here.
     
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  20. zdepth

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    Hi Mr.spoutnik12..

    Would u mind if I were to post your pictures on my tennis blog? I will put a by-line with your nickname on it if you let me use them... thanks in advance
     
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  21. eidolonshinobi

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    Neat, though I would have thought Tsonga used a heavier racquet.
     
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  22. Ross K

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    Anyone?....
     
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  23. Shangri La

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    That is very nice. If I had a pro's racquet I would play with it, too. It is on the tennis court where you can get a feel of and appreciate how a pro's stick plays like, not on the wall.
     
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  24. spoutnik12

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    I have no idea how much lead is on the racquet. The lead must be placed under the grommets, it's not visible.
     
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  25. ivo

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    I don't know how hard babolat bumperguard is, but isn't it possible to lift it up with your nails and then check lead tape length and position ?

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  26. jcarbone

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    Tsonga Red Racquet ?
    Which babolat model he is using in the Madrid tournament ?
    Thanks
     
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  27. ucr_tennis90

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    aeropro drive roland garros special edition
     
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  28. jcarbone

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    Cool... thanks...
     
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  29. wilfreb

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    wht does TW says he uses the standard when he really is using the Plus version?
     
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  30. dgoran

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    He really should switch to something else Pure Storm or anything that would give him some more consistency. IMHO he needs closed pattern racket.
     
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  31. Recon

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    I really. Like really. Want to know wheres the leadtape in the head, I strongly want you to pull the bumper guard off and tell us where and how much lead tape is applied. I'm sure the tennis community will thank you forever. Its such a mystery because tsongas a heavy ball hitter, I would suspect leadtape at 3&9 yet his is under the bumper presumably at 12. The only pro with leadtape at 3&9 using the aeropro is ryan sweeting.
     
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  32. asiank90

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    Have you checked where the lead tape is yet?
     
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    Yes... swingweight and lead-tape information must be obtained.
     
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  34. crash1929

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    Thanks a lot really cool info.
     
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  35. Jules

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    Spoutnik, if you don't mind my asking...did you ever look for lead under the bumper the way ivo showed in post #24?
     
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  36. Rock Strongo

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    Nevermind, the question was already answered.
     
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  37. Cup8489

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    oh, it's definitely Tsonga.

    Full Poly with a dampener on an APDGT? Doesnt exactly have alot of feel, haha.

    I would've expected his frame to be heavier than that, but I suppose the extra half inch with the way his weight is distributed probably gives all the plow he'll ever need.

    I'm curious to try this, honestly. Maybe I'll buy myself one for xmas :)
     
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  39. Adidas_Anderson

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    Lead tape placement please ><!!!!
     
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  40. spoutnik12

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    Sorry, but I've not removed the grommets, so I can't say where the lead is placed. I assume that it's under the grommets, arround 12 o'clock since there's no visible lead on the frame, hope that it helps.

    Forgot if I already said this, but the part where the "tungsten" is supposed to be is not like on the ratail frames, it's just plain black, not "tressed", so it could be a APD cortex non-GT.

    Enjoy the semis in London, and of course, COM'ON ROGER ;)
     
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  41. schap02

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    I had heard tsonga switched to the + version after trying the regular version in the beginning...

    I do a nice job of racquet balancing and matching but I've not had much success with silicone in the handle, probably the wrong thread but any customizers reading this have any advice for me?

    tutors9@verizon.net
     
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  42. Adidas_Anderson

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    at least tell us the balance......
     
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  43. ben123

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    you dont have to remove the grommets. as suggested above its fairly easy to do this in the pictures. it does not damage the frame. it is not difficult or takes much time to do.

    just saying you know
     
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  44. ben123

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    huh?

    look at the first post?
     
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  45. Power Player

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    33.1 - does this mean his racquet is around 2 pts HL since it is extended?
     
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  46. PED

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    Actually with XL frames, it works out to be the other way.

    33cm on a std length frame is 4pts hl so 33cm would translate to being even more HL on an XL stick. I think it's around 6pts HL for the XL..

    Jo has maintained the same balance point as stock on the apdgt + but of course beefed up the static.
     
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  47. Power Player

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    ok, so if my balance measurement is 13.3 from balance point to buttcap on my XL, how many pts hl is my stick? I cant seem to figure it out right.
     
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  48. gatorbait01

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    ^^ Every 1/8 inch is one point, so you're just shy of 4 pts HL.
     
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  49. Automatix

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    ((lenght of racquet/2) - balance)/0,125 = balance points

    0,125 inch = 1 point


    If your racquet is 27,5 inches than...
    ((27,5/2) - 13,3)/0,125 = 3,6 points head light

    The above is for inches. If you're using cm you need to modify it a bit.
    ((lenght of racquet/2) - balance)/0,3175
    ((69,85/2)-33,782)/0,3175 = 3,6 points head light
     
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  50. PED

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    That converts to 33.02cm so you're just like Jo Willy and ARod (also at 33cm) and that converts back to roughly 6pts HL on an XL stick.
     
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