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  1. r2473

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  2. LeeD

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    It's still too early.
    I and most of my friends usually wait for a 10' base before going up the first day of the season. We all have rock skis, rock boards, and demos, but the riding isn't good anyways, so after 30 years on the snow, we can wait.
    Waiting involves some surfing, lots of bike riding, either road or dirt, occasional windsurfing days, and regular tennis.
    10' happens by early Jan. Christmas week is too early, and the yahoos are infesting the lift lines anyways. We get lots of semi solitary April days because the yahoo's go home looking for camping and BBQ's.
    Alpine and Squaw tend to open thru most of May. Good terrain on those 2 hills.
     
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    I wait till KT 22 is open. And yes, the waiting is fun too.
     
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    Since I haven't skied since '84, KT is a little too much for any of my snowboarding buds, so I don't get to ride there. And at my age, not too many of my buds can ski WestFace or Chute75 any mores.
    Fortunately for me, I fell in with a bunch of older guys (well, over 30), who pioneered some solid bump boarding at Sierra and Alpine, so cruising the Face of Heavenly is challenging (without stopping, of course), but doable if I save the showboating for later.
    I've actually never tried snowboarding WestFace, but usually go on freshie days to the top of 75, where the first drop in is about 20' of airtime. It's actually easier to handle big drops on a snowboard than it was for me to ski. Main diff is the board stay ON, you can use your hands to slide and push off on, and the initial landing can be less impact, albeit less edge and slower decelleration.
    Now at 62, maybe give me the Saddle....:)
     
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    Oh yea, MtBaldy.....
    Sometime around the late '90's, I dropped into SouthBowl solo, right toeside traversed to the S side, and caused a 10 minute avalanche behind me. I just hunkered down and waited till the clouds of snow subsided, and the bowl down was full of 3' diameter ice chunks surrounded by broken snow. That following right traverse, backside for this goofy guy, seemed to take forever, easily an hour, to bounce/skidd/crunch around the corner to the adjoining chair lift. Lift op there said I was the first to come from that side that day, as the day before, someone died in an avalanche there.
    Whew.
     
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    If I had seen you, I would have gone over and kicked your ass until you were praying for death.

    Lee, causing avalanches ain't cool. If you're going to ski / hike / whatever in these types of areas, know your **** first.

    Search and rescue is tired of risking their lives saving dumb$hits like you. And the rest of us are tired of paying for it.

    If you don't know what you're doing, stay the f*ck out.
     
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    Actually, if you had seen me AFTER I caused the avalanche, you would have been sympathetic, as a simple traverse across an OPEN run caused the rift that started the avalanche, nothing anyone could do about it. The ski patrol was about 50' above the entry to the open run, and only asked if I knew how to snowboard. Never saw him after the avalanche, as he must have seen me all the way across the bowl, safe and high above the rift.
    However, if you saw me from the bottom, you would certainly have the right to try to take me out, as I DID start the whole mess.
    Try, but I don't think you'd have much chance. Many have tried, including years of high school football and more years than I can count surfing big waves, racing motocross, water ski jumping, snowboarding off cliffs, or road racing on GP bikes.
    You've seen my vid hitting serves. A sprained ankle that won't let me run, and I'm still out on the courts. More bravado than common nonsense...:):)
     
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    So they are so reckless in that park that somebody died the day before (in the park, on a run that was open). And the very next day, the run is still open and the very first person down the run (you) triggers a 10 min. avalanche?

    They must be really fing stupid there........or your story is completly made up.
     
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    Not sure where you get "park" from.
    The run is the SouthBowl at MtBaldy, a normal run when there is at least 4' of snow on the mountain. This is SanBernadino, LA, like LosAngeles.
    You access it by chair to the top right, then ride down halfway and the entrance says "..SouthBowl Open, with one black diamond on the sign. Sounds easy to me.
    You seem very brave internet, but I think you are a lamb in real life.
     
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    Oh, "park" as in MtBaldy.
    Not made up, don't need to make up such a nothing story. Nothing happened, except I took a long bumpy traverse on icy, rock hard snow that just slid.
     
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    "Park" means in the resort. As opposed to back country or out of bounds, etc.

    Look, its pretty rare that there's an avalanche "in the park". Most avalanche control teams are pretty good at what they do and most parks are very cautious. If there's any question, the area is closed. But an avalanche two days in a row. In the exact same area. Somebody actually died. Your avalanche lasted for 10 minutes.

    Whatever. Sounds good to me.
     
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    I figured you guys would know best. Which ski resorts in North America have indoor tennis courts nearby? Facilities with a number of courts and junior training program is preferred, but if you know of any resorts with even one or two indoor courts nearby, please list them here!
     
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    How "nearby" are you talking? Actually at the ski resort?

    We don't have that in Salt Lake / Park City. Few people on vacation staying at the resort want to top off a day of skiing with a few hours of singles.
     
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    r2, are you familiar with CCC and their winter set-up? Probably going to visit good friends, who just relo'd to CwH, for skiing this winter. They joined a club w/ bubbled courts - I think it's the CCC. When it gets closer to our visit, and I know which resort we'll be skiing at, I'll need to hit you up for some inside info regarding the local favorite eat & drink destinations. Maybe you can suggest a good Chinese restaurant. Somewhere west of Manhattan, preferably.:wink:
     
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    CCC is in CwH. I live just a few miles from there, but I've only played there once for a tournament. I'm pretty sure it is a bubble setup in the winter, but I'll ask my coworker who's husband plays there twice a week or more.

    I'm sure we can find you eats that will hit the spot after a day of skiing.
     
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    I'm thinking within 30 miles.

    What do CCC and CwH stand for?
     
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    Not sure why some people have to be "experts" at every subject.
    I only posted my experience, and doubter's always seem to appear.
    I lived thru being shot at from the backseat of my car twice. Been stabbed twice also, by the guy in the backseat of my taxi..:):)
    Fell off RonGrant's Suzuki RG-500 at about 100, at Talledega (managed to shift down to 4th before the front end wobble spit me of).
    Broke my frame at both the rear chain stay pivot and the front end, at Sear'sPoint, on my KX-500, landing a dropoff, frame just separated in 3 pieces while I was going maybe 30 mph.
    Got sideways and Tboned by 9th thru 13th place riders at CarnegiePark, CMC Novice 250, causing a 4 person broken bone extravaganza my first MX race.
    Stood frozen in shock while a guy next to me dropped his full auto FN-FAL when the auto sear stuck, emptying a 30 round magazine, rounds firing in 360 degrees, musta missed me by less than foot, rifle pivoting full circle on the ground (PrescottArizona).
    Stuff happens, and you either live to tell the story, or you don't.
     
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    You can ski Park City / Deer Valley and go to the Park City Racquet club. I've never played there, but I imagine it's pretty good. It's being renovated. Not sure what the indoor tennis situation is actually.

    http://www.parkcity.org/index.aspx?page=206

    My choice would be skiing Alta / Snowbird and going to The Sports Mall if you want the club atmosphere, junior programs, etc. You will need to get some sort of membership and its fairly pricey IMO for what you get.

    http://www.sportsmallgroup.com/

    I play at the University of Utah in the winter. 8 great indoor courts. You can reserve up to a week in advance. Open to the public. Rates are more than reasonable, even for the public. No membership required (unlike the Sports Mall, Cottonwood Country Club, Salt Lake Racquet and Swimming Club, Eaglewood Country Club, etc).
     
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    I played 40's indoor nats at Park City. Very cool facility, fast conditions with the altitude. I saw the renderings for the remodeling they are doing and it is going to be amazing, top shelf stuff.

    Got a powder day at snowbird the first day i was out of the tourney. Have to try that one again, can't go wrong!
     
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    ^ took a pounding at Snowbird late in the season one year. one steep trail had bumps big as vw bug which were hard and icy. prefer CO since the elevation and trail location at a few spots keep it semi soft.
     
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    You can encounter bad conditions anywhere you ski, at any time of the year. It's a crapshoot, you don't find fresh dry powder all the time.
    No location has the best conditions all the time.
    While the Sierras around Tahoe tend to be wet and clumpy, there are days of dry Utah snow if you hang around long enough.
    Conversely, if you go to Utah to ski for 3 days, don't even think you're gonna hit that classic dry deep fluff every day.
     
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    ^^ Us snobbish locals only ski on powder days.
     
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    of course but trails facing north don't melt during sunny days and refreeze at night like those facing east and west. if one wants a great ski trip, suggest doing the homework.
     
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    Always a puzzle to solve when travelling for snow, or surf, or whatever....
    You locate and find the "best" snow and stay there?
    You locate and find the "best" snow, do a few runs, then go exploring the whole resort to see what else it has to offer?
    Is it worth the effort to tolerate "average" runs in order to find that ONE special run with your "perfect" conditions?
    Do you like variety or do you only one to tune into that "perfect" experience?
    Me, I go to Mammoth to experience the whole shebang, from the parallel halfpipes to the gondola to the 6 person chair that drops you off in a barn above a narrow exposed ridge, to a 14 full speed tabletop run, to skitter along the trail at the top of Dave's, and then down into the trees for some slalom action.
    Just like when I go to Oahu, I always look forward to Pipe, but I also surf Sunset, Wiamea (if I bring appropriate boards), Jockos, and 7th Hole.
    Some variety is, to me, the spice of life.
     
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    not one to seek the "best of the best of the best" snow. :lol: however if i'm going to spend the money and take the time then i'll do the homework to up the odds for exhilaration. do whatever u like.
     
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    "Exhilaration".
    Just what is that?
    Do we get it bouncing down steep mogul runs just above our level, make it soundly, and live to tell the story?
    Do we get it pushing ourselves beyond our limits on the halfpipe, going for pro level air off the sides and spins we can imagine but never make?
    Do we get it in bottomless pow, the dry stuff that floats past our goggles and leaves a streamer 40' behind us?
    Do we get it on that horrid icy day when we're at the top, the wind is howling, everyone is taking their skis off to sit down and scooterpie down the easy trail, while we plunge right into the boilerplate and actually EDGE with control and aplomb?
    What about that perfect, windless, sunny day, when we're on top of our game, S/O is there with you and on it, and you feel the whole mountain is there only for you beck and call?
    Ever trudge along some unknown trail heading for a new run and VOILE', a really cool untouched section appears ahead of you, and it's the Cat's Meow!
    Just what is it?
     
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    Thanks r2473!
     
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    This is what I was getting at LeeD.

    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18073250

    Not only do you endanger yourself, but anyone around you on the mountain. Then you endanger the ski patrol and search & rescue because they have to risk their own asses to save your stupid ass. Then there is the monetary cost of it all.

    And clearly, no matter how great of a skier you are, it really doesn't matter. If you are messing around in avalanche conditions and get caught, nothing is going to save you.

    Your story is still pretty bizarre as you claim that it happened within the park while it was open for business, but I sitll wanted to post this just to remind everyone of the extreme danger and extreme selfishness of doing something this stupid.
     
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    Dude, you're off the planet here...
    Do you honestly think I knew there was going to be an avalanche?
    Do you think I knew the run HAD a fatality the day before?
    Fact is, run had a white sign with black lettering that said OPEN. Fact is, ski patrol was standing around maybe a hundred feet above the entrance to the S bowl. Fact is, I hesistated for maybe 3 minutes before dropping into the bowl, because nobody was riding it.
    If YOU were standing there, late in the season with little fun runs to be had....MtBaldy is not the most challenging, as I"ve skied Squaw over 400 days alone....you'd drop in too, and probably cause the same avalanche.
     
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    Not much coming for another week, then maybe just as the Christmas vacation comes into play, we'll get some rain and some storms.
    I usually wait till late Jan anyways, my rock skis are all chewed up.
    Don't care much for Christmas skiing, as the crowds are huge and I get time off more in Feb thru April.
     
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    But at the same time, the lack of storms isn't doing much for the surf either.

    I guess that just means more tennis, kitesurfing and mtn biking.
     
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    Around here, the surf got killed by the seawall in the middle of OceanBeachSF. It traps megatons of sand, so the sand doesn't get distributed to other parts of the beach to create sandbars and channels. Most of OBSF is basically a closeout the last couple of years. When the seawall fills with sand, it get's trucked away to somewhere, but it's not put back on the beach like before the seawall was created.
    Size is just fine, most days in the 3-5 range, but that sizing can be all "tweeners", too much for the shorepound to hold, and too little for the outside bars to show. Winds offshore 6 days a week, offshore, head high sets, closed out.
     
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    For no natural snow, Heavenly is fantastic! All manmade, but I believe they have the largest snow making in the country, and the runs that are open are superb! Snowboarding in the morning, then tennis in the afternoon...life is good!
     
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    Thanks for the info. Have you been to any of the north lake resorts this year? Also, where do you play tennis indoors at Tahoe?
     
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    Was at Northstar, and Heavenly has way more runs open and better snow. Alas there is only one indoor court in Tahoe, at the Ridge Tahoe, but there are still 2 nets up at Zephyr Cove, my home neighborhood courts.
     
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    Tahoe Tennis, we should hit if I end up coming up as planned. But for now, I've taped a pair of old skis into a cross and lit them on fire while chanting, sold my tire chains on craigslist, washed/waxed my car every other day, posted on the mammoth forum that winter is cancelled for this season and that it will never snow again, especially between Christmas and New Years.

    Why would you need an indoor court if there is no snow?
     
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    This happened at a local resort recently. It never looks good to drop the f-bomb on tape, but knowing what really goes on at these resorts, I find myself siding with the ski patrol in principle. This is pretty low on the mountain (I believe) where lots of novice skier / kids are. There are plenty of places to race around higher up where it is only advanced skiers.

    But, when this type of thing is caught on tape, the enforcer will always look like the bad guy.

    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18661556
     
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    That fine Granite, but we don't want you California types coming to Utah for skiing :)

    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18668050

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYY2FQHFwE

    I like Kris' version better:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgpjLkiwK08
     
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    "You're harassing us because we're yun-gh!" I want to hire this kid to go around and annoy people I don't like.

    That said, it is obvious that the old guy in red is sexually repressed and/or impotent.
     
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    sounds great, still coming up to tahoe?
    when and where?
     
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    Oh man, i'll be coming up when KT22 starts spinning and not a day before.

    I figured a staycation would do the trick here at home and its turned out well, lots of tennis, waves, biking, etc.

    Looks like a pattern change around mid month, hopefully i'll get up there at least sometime in January.

    Happy New Year to all!!
     
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    Long range forecast / discussion...January 20 to 23

    --We expect to see a ridge of high pressure across western Alaska, with an undercutting jet stream and long fetch of Pacific moisture pushing into the Sierra Nevada (the fire-hose as some have called it). When this happens late next week and weekend, we expect to see wet Pacific storms slamming into the Sierra Nevada with close-call snow levels (relatively mild air due to the source region off the milder mid Pacific Ocean waters), for 2 days (Thursday 19th through Friday the 20th). This wetter scenario is expected to help balance out the dry patterns we have seen so far this winter. This could set up a very good base of heavy dense snow pack and a lot of water (what we wanted to see in November and December). The 2 days of wet snow and 7,000+ to 8,000+ foot snow levels should be followed by 2 days (Sat/ Sun~21-22 Jan) of colder and less dense, but still heavy snowfall, again possibly multiple feet (will need to watch). It is still possible that the arctic push/ front and storm track end up a bit further south or north, in which case we will have to adjust snow levels and snowfall, but either way, BIG SNOW is expected to come. It is looking like the Pacific storm train could continue almost relentlessly through all but the last couple days of January, with continued significant snows. Tahoe will look like a whole different place (one you want to be in) really quick.

    http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/granitechief/?action=view&current=MVI_0929.mp4
     
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    3' of wet snow with a foot of dry atop doesn't come close to opening anything on KT except Saddle bunny runs. Lower mountain still closed, as is anything more than one way down Cornice. Upper mountain open, but rock skis advised.
     
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    You all should grab a flight to Europe. The snow is lovely in the Alps.

    Just fly to Zurich and hop on the train to St. Anton. Conditions are great.
     

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