TT Synthetic Gut Association (Nylon)

Discussion in 'Strings' started by THESEXPISTOL, Mar 12, 2013.

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Which ones do you REALLY like?

  1. GOSEN OG MICRO SHEEP / JIM COURIER

    31.3%
  2. PRINCE SYNTHETIC GUT ORIGINAL/DURAFLEX

    34.3%
  3. WILSON EXTREME SYNTHETIC GUT

    8.4%
  4. BABOLAT N.VY

    7.8%
  5. GAMMA WEARGUARD SYNTHETIC GUT

    3.6%
  6. DUNLOP SYNTHETIC GUT

    3.0%
  7. TECNIFIBRE SYNTHETIC GUT

    11.4%
  8. HEAD SYNTHETIC GUT PPS

    10.2%
  9. PRO SUPEX SPIRAL FLEX/TITAN

    6.0%
  10. OTHER (NAME IT!)

    16.3%
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  1. Valjean

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    Gosen maintains the JC had higher quality materials than most and that the gauge was absolutely consistent from one end of the coil to the other.

    For me it strung up more consistently than most, and held tension very, very well too...
     
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  2. THESEXPISTOL

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    Depends... If you like a muted and plush feel go with Duraflex, if want a lively and crisp feel go with Original.
    Personally i prefer the Duraflex...
     
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  3. KaiserW

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    Yup personal preference. I am the exact opposite I like Original better because of the reason mentioned above.
     
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  4. robbo1970

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    Im always up for a plush feel, so I will go with the Duraflex. I have that on another racket already but have never tried the original, so thought I would ask about the differences. Many thanks to you all.
     
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  5. THESEXPISTOL

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    The string is so cheap you could try them side by side if your stringing labor is not very expensive...
     
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  6. robbo1970

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    £10 to string a racket. If I could string myself I would do a comparison test, but at £20 I'll just go with the PSGD and done with it.
     
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  7. THESEXPISTOL

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    C'mon, this thread deserves more posts... TT is the only place where people don't use nylon strings.
     
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  8. treo

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    I'm liking my reel of Prince Tournament Nylon I bought for $29. It's good for cold weather playing but will probably go back to poly in the summertime.
     
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  9. max

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    Heavily recommend Ektelon Power Play. I'm stocked up on it.

    Prior to this name, Prince sold it as Prince Synthetic Gut Soft.
     
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  10. uofmrocky

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    I have played for 20 years and have always used prince synthetic gut. I have used both dura flex and original exclusively. I like the original much better. It has a much more lively, jumpy feel to it. However it doesn't keep it's tension as long as the dura flex. I used to break the original every 4 hours. Well worth I though since I string my own rackets.
     
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  11. Conrads

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    curious what courier was stringing his PS85 with the gosen syn gut?

    I remember RF used VS16 at around 54 lbs in his almost stock PS85. Did courier play his 85 stock or leaded?
     
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  12. KaiserW

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    Never tried Gosen Micro. How does it compare to Prince Original Synthetic?
     
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  13. Kalin

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    I hope Gosen is reading this thread (as well as many older threads) and figures out that dropping the JC Syngut was a major bad move. The Gosen Jim Courier usually tops every 'which is your favourite syngut' or 'which string you wish they still made' thread.

    To top it off, Jim Courier is still extremely relevant in tennis what with being on TV all the time. They don't even have to change the name!

    Come on, Gosen, do the right thing and bring back the Gosen JC string... you'll send tons (or is that miles) of it.
     
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  14. SteveI

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    JC got Dead Arm and it was one of the main reasons he left the game so early. The JC version was very stiff for a syn gut. I hated that string..no feel or power and hurt my arm. I was not impressed and I guess Gosen was not either. If it was such a great product.. it would still be in their product line.

    BTW.. the OP lumped the OG and JC together.. so not really a real number for the JC. Many folks on TW feel that the OG is one of the best price/performers out there.
     
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  15. THESEXPISTOL

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    Never tried the JC, but after reading this thank god i didn't... The regular Gosen SG is right on my limit (i have a sensitive arm), i can't imagine with the JC.
     
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  16. SteveI

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    The Super Micro is supposed to be softer. The OG and JC (can't get anymore) are very crisp for syn guts.
     
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  17. struggle

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    yes, i find this to be the case. never tried the JC though.
     
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  18. fuzz nation

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    Haven't done a side-by-side with these recently, but my memory of Prince Original is that it was a little softer and more plush/cozy than Gosen OGSM of the same gauge. I've used some 17 ga. Gosen lately and it was really nice and snappy feeling - not "thuddy" like their 16 ga. can be (for me) at high tensions. Prince Original has no real weakness that I can think of...

    Nothing against the Gosen (or Prince Original), but lately I've been really loving Tecnifibre's syn. gut. I keep reels of both 16 and 17 ga. handy and also like having both their natural and black options. This stuff gives me a very good balance of "soft enough" and "crisp enough". Their black version is nice for either a handsome hybrid (it rather looks like black poly) or a good looking full bed.

    Honorable mention to Forten Sweet 16 for being such a soft 'n cozy syn. gut. VERY good alternative to multifiber. Also need to give a nod to Ashaway Liberty for delivering great bang for the buck. Decent string that's just crazy affordable - I've got some in one of my frames right now.
     
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  19. lgbalfa

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    i use to use NRG2 but recently just switched over to volkl synthetic gut.

    much cheaper, i can string more often and i like the way it feels.

    i don't feel like like i lose anything with my shots.
     
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  20. forthegame

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    Prefer Forten Sweet to OGSM.

    Testing Tecnifibre SynGut and not sure I like it too much.

    Hated PSGD.
     
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  21. maxply

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    I really like Gosen super, AK pro. Gamma without wearguard, Tourna syn gut, and recently got some old Head syn gut with Agassi on the pack for $ 1.00 that plays like Gamma.
     
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  22. Kalin

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    Steve, Jim Courier may have got a dead arm for any amount of reasons; hitting the cr*p out of the ball on every single shot while using some ancient racquets for sure was a factor... regardless of strings.

    Yes, Gosen JC was a very firms and crisp string and that's why many people loved it. There are many old threads where people are clamouring for it to be still sold.

    The market is full of soft, stretchy, elastic strings for those who prefer those. JC served a particular player (those who prefer a firm, predictable yet somewhat live stringbed) and it served such players extremely well.

    We don't know why Gosen stopped making it. Could be it didn't sell well or it could be it was just too costly or complicated to produce. Companies stop making products for all reasons.

    Anyway, my 2 cents. One question- what would be the closest string to JC on the market right now?
     
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  23. KaiserW

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    Ashaway Liberty is a good string at a great price as you mention. I have been expermenting with different strings since getting back into tennis after 15 years off. Back in the day I used Prince Original Synthetic Gut which I still like. Right now I am using Prince Premiere Attack but I feel like I have less control versus using a synthetic gut. So I am going back to synthetic gut. Next on list to try are Gosen and given your post I think I will also try Tecnifibre.
     
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  24. Capulin Zurdo

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    I play with a full bed of synthetic gut; as it is my most preferred string. I have tried polyester and multifilament and synthetic gut just does it for me. It feels so crisp I thoroughly enjoy its feel.
     
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  25. Capulin Zurdo

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    ^ My preferred string id the Dunlop Synthetic Gut 16
     
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  26. Capulin Zurdo

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    *is* the Dunlop Synthetic Gut 16
     
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  27. DonDiego

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    I'm surprised so few people talk about (have tried) Head Synthetic gut PPS 16. It's still the best feeling string that I've ever tried. Soft yet crisp, good pocketing, spin, power on demand, and I always hit crazy angles when I use them. And the feeling is... I don't know, hard to describe, but very, very nice. Much better than PSGD IMO.
     
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  28. yangster007

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    Gosen is the most popular syn gut among my customers, it's so popular that I stopped carrying other syn gut brands (Tecnifibre/Prince). It's very durable, has great crisp feel for a syn gut, and works well as cross for poly mains.
     
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  29. BlueB

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    I like it. 17 I brake quickly, 16 lasts. It plays nicer then PSGO from the get go, but PSGO plays well longer.
     
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  30. DonDiego

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    I only tried the one with duraflex, and I like the Head PPS 16 much more.
     
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  31. AHJS

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    i use my wilson sgx due to arm issues. i blow thru it so fast but it plays pretty well.
     
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  32. leroy_sunset

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    Gamma DuraSpin, no wearguard. Soooooo nice.
     
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  33. THESEXPISTOL

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    Since i'm the founder of this club here's some eye candy. One of my old trusted AG200, from back in the days when Dunlop made greats racquets instead of hollow pieces of crap. This beauty is strung with Wilson Extreme S-Gut at 19kgs.

    [​IMG]
     
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  34. ShahofTennis

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    My reel of Tourna Premium Poly is used up so In an effort to be MORE(unnecessarily) economical I'm using what's left(~15 string jobs) of my Tecnifibre Synthetic. 1.30 16g all black. Looks like a poly so that's a plus. Playability is decent once you stop comparing it to poly.
     
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  35. beepee1972

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    Been using Kirschbaum Synthetic Gut Premium in 1.30, both full bed (and as cross). Holds tension very well, right until it snaps.
    I have made up my mind to go back to full bed syngut from now on, and am going to experiment a lot. My customers like this string a lot, but I am also going to try it's cheaper cousin as wel as the Prince Tournament Nylon 15L and Babolat Synthetic Gut.
    Playing with a Prince tour 100 16x18 by the way.
     
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  36. The forehand

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    How long does synthetic gut last without getting spongy and too powerful?
     
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  37. robbo1970

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    I've always used POSG 16 at fairly low (below specified minimum) tensions and it's always played very well. No complaints at all and it lasts ages.

    I'm considering trying Dunlop Synthetic Gut at some point. Anyone tried or using that? I normally have mine strung at 50lbs.
     
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  38. Muppet

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    If you're talking about the Dunlop S-gut, I should note that the 16g is 1.35mm. Good string though. Nice and quiet.
     
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  39. Rabbit

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    I am a new member and chose other. I started with PSGO and now have switched to Babolat Synthetic Gut 17 in white. It's cheaper, as comfortable, plays great and has just the durability I want. I string for myself and this is a boon!
     
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  40. KaiserW

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    POSG is my favorite syn gut but due to some elbow pain I want to go softer. Anyone have any recommedations for the softest syn gut? I have tried Ashaway Liberty and that is soft for a syn gut but does lose tension fast.
    According to TW database this string Babolat Spiraltek 16 is one of the softest syn guts. Has a stiffness rating of 160 at 51 lbs where POSG is 189,
    this is with choosing medium swing speed. Anyone try it?
     
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  41. Nikolai

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    I'm also interested in trying the Babolat SG Spiraltek, I've always been a loyal PSGD user but this string looks promising and I quite fancy a change, there's hardly any information or reviews of it though, has anyone here tried it?
     
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  42. WINZOWAR

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    Right now I use Gosen. 17 for 18x20; 16 for 16x18. My favorite though is Leoina 77.
     
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  43. robbo1970

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    Is anyone using syn gut in a 90sq head racquet?

    I'm interested to know what tensions you are using? I've never had a 90 strung before, but I've recently progressed from 100's and 98's to a 90 and I'm looking for suggestions. I always had my 100's and 98's strung with syn gut at about 50lbs.
     
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  44. 1600

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    Pro Staff 90 (2013) with full Syn.Gut in different variations (still experimenting)

    1) Same string (16g) mains-crosses 53 lbs
    Nice feel, enough pop, arm friendly, very durable, huge string movement

    2) 16g mains@53lbs - 17g crosses@51lbs
    Similar feel (kinda better, maybe placebo), arm friendly, more effortless spin, less durable

    3) I now use a cheap multi 16g (E-Matrix) mains @55lbs with 16g Wilson (Extreme) Syn.Gut Control @53lbs
    Tons of power, more plush feel, best spin of three variations, most probably the least durable (started wearing out)

    Stay around 50 lbs and u 'll be safe
     
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  45. aadi007

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    I am currently using Prince Synthetic gut @58lbs on Yonex AI 98 and I find it to be very stiff...and its hurting my elbow.
    Earlier, played with Pro Hurricane and it never hurt my elbow.
    Never thought a synthetic gut will play so stiff as compared to a ploy, though Pro hurricane is one of the softer polys out there.
    Also, played with Wilson Extreme synthetic gut and found it to be nice and soft and powerful but moves around a lot and there is lack of control.

    So, I am going with a softer string next time...Forten Sweet.
     
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  46. wrxinsc

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    I am going to try out the Babolat Spiraltek string and will report back.
     
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  47. skydog

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    Currently playing full bed of 17g OGSM in my Pro Kennex 5G PSE's. Really enjoying this set up after working my way through PPA and Volkyl Cyclone in various racquets. Loved the Cyclone, but wanted to string higher tension and not have to worry about the poly going dead in a relatively short time. So far, I am very happy with the results using OGSM. My biggest fear was losing spin, but I am able to generate adequate spin with the full bed OGSM.

    While I am perfectly happy with the OGSM, I am trying out some Volkyl V Wrap syn gut in one of my 5G PSE's just to see if I like it and would also like to try the Babbolat Spiraltec. Looking forward to that review...
     
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  48. wrxinsc

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    So far I like it. I generally play with a hybrid of poly mains and multi crosses but that doesn't last me very well at all. I like a full bed of poly but my elbow doesn't. SpriralTek was recommended to me so figured I would give it a try. It is cold out and even the hybrid has been rough on my old elbow.

    17ga white version in a Organix V1 Pro frame. 59 mains and 55 crosses.

    I have about 4 hours on it in dubs and singles. 4.0 and 4.5 level play.

    Babolat's claim "The result is a comfortably crisp synthetic gut that offers a nice balance of comfort, power, durability and spin." actually fits the string very well.

    It moves around of course but not as bad as some non poly strings. The spin is surprisingly persistent and the bed certainly gives off a poly vibe. At least at that tension moderate power. Steady predictable power. Has a nice touch and is playable like most decent syn gut strings. Very comfortable and soft. Nothing jarring about it even on off center hits. Durability will be something I look forward to. It has lasted "well" for a string of its class to date. I will report back after it breaks.

    As it has broken in, the closest I can come to a comparison is to RPM blast when it is in that narrow window of solid playability. And this string is holding onto these "best of" characteristics over its short life so far.

    Anyone looking for a low cost syn gut that has a nice crisp feel and a pocketing / spin similar to some polys should give this one a try. I think this may end up being a string I stay with for the season. A surprising string so far.

    UPDATE: Lasted about six hours of playing time. Broke a center string about middle to top third of the racquet on a flat serve. All strings were pretty notched. Plays nice though and held that comfortably crisp feel until it broke.
     
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  49. WHS1983

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    I would be interested in knowing the same thing.

    I will be trying some Gosen AK Power in the coming weeks, hoping to find something similar to the JC 16.
     
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  50. dmcb101

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    Any updates here? Has there been any mention of Forten Tournament Nylon? That stuff is dirty cheap.
     

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