TW HEAD MicroGEL Prestige Review now posted

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    nice review guys. however i thought Tiffany was going to put the mike up someone's nose. still good work Tiffany. ;)
     
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  3. JayxTheKoolest

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    Hmmm, it seemed like the reviewers hated the prestige mid. That is odd considering everyone on this forum seems to love it. It doesn't bother me at all, it simply makes me even more curious to demo it.
     
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    Yeah, interesting that the mid's review was far less than glowing. I adore this racquet.
     
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  5. drakulie

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    Chris, I want to be part of the demo team at TW. And what happened to that other female interviewer??
     
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  6. meowmix

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    Wow, that was fast. It came out just two weeks ago and the review is up already? Nice Job!
     
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  7. JayxTheKoolest

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    They've probably had the rackets for a long time, and simply couldn't sell them until a couple weeks ago.
     
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  8. vkartikv

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    So the LM mid (overall score around 82) is better than the MG mid (scored 75)???
     
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  9. Chauvalito

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    The reviews for all the rackets in general were less than glowing...the microgels, according to the TW test team dont seem to have the same punch as some of the well-liked k facot line rackets.
     
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  10. Gimmick

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    It would seem the reviews are consistent within themselves, but any attempt to compare numbers to a review from a few years ago doesn't yield useful information. I suspect the qualitative comments are more indicative of true sentiment than the numbers.
     
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    I was very surprised with the review from Spencer, because he is currently using the Kblade Tour, which has absolutely no pop, and like the MG mid also has a small sweetspot (if any). Additionally, is much more stable than the K-blade.

    Ground Strokes
    Spencer felt the small sweetspot and lack of power stymied his effectiveness. "I really enjoyed the weight and swingweight when hitting this one from the baseline. Unlike the Midplus and the Pro, the Mid was not forgiving, though I was not expecting it to be. It didn't have the power I need to assist my game for maximum effectiveness as I was hitting too many short balls. With the smaller 93 square inch head, the sweetspot wasn't so sugary for me. For the small periods when I felt dialed in, it felt great, but those were too few and far between, thus I lacked the all too important consistency factor."

    Volleys
    Appreciating the stability but not volleying consistently was Spencer. "A combination of so-so maneuverability with a small sweetspot made for many mis-hit volleys when at net. I found many volleys that should be more penetrating, landing short and sitting up as a result. If I have one glowing comment, it would be its stability."
     
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    Actually they've been consistent with their numbers for about 4-5 years now. I know what you are talking about - the MW 200G scored in the mid 70s a long time ago but since 2003 or so their numbers have been consistent. Nevertheless, the LM mid was by far the worst frame I've tried (and a lot of people agree) and it somehow ranks higher...
     
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  13. Chauvalito

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    He may be making up for the lack of pop with an increaed swing speed/racket head speed...therefore the heaview MG mid may have slowed down his strikes.
     
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    nice! :D
    prestiges!
     
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    Wow all 63 stiffness? Whereas I would have thought that this number might vary, but apparently it doesn't...
     
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  16. drakulie

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    ^^There ain't much difference betweent the two in terms of specs. Additionally, the Kblade has no power. NONE. That string bed is just dead. So, I have no clue where he is coming from.

    One last thing, the Kblade is **NOT** 8 pts head light. More like 3 or 4, so the MG mid is much easier to get around.
     
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  17. Mad iX

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    Haven't hit with a MG Prestige yet but I found the Kblade Tour has enough punch for me, even when at stock weight and factory stringjob. I've got it at 362g now and it's even better.
     
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    MadiX, what is the balance on your Kblade tour (stock).??

    Curious, because I have tried two, and they were both around 3-4 points headlight in stock form. TW lists this frame at 8 pts head light.
     
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    There is many threads on this recently, just seems like they have been inconsistent recently. I think they are trying to control the rating inflation while not having a whole bunch of people buy frames they cant play with
     
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    i thought Tiffany is pretty cute...i d definitely ask for her number:)
     
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  21. HeadPrestige

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    i hit with the microgel prestige MP recently and found that i prefered the flexpoint prestige MP.

    I preferred the crisp feel of the flexpoint, and also the heavier weight. I just think the fxp was a superior racket.

    the MG was vastly superior to the LM though.
     
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  22. Final_Match_Point

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    I prefer the MG over anything except the Iprestige.

    DEFINITELY spring for the leather.

    I do agree in stock form its a bit light
     
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  23. sureshs

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    The Pro comments were right on.
     
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  24. Pro_Tour_630

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    thanks guys nice review

    nice of you to borrow some of my terms,
     
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  25. Pro_Tour_630

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    with all respect to granville who IMO plays the closest to my game I have to question this one line. why would he compare the MG pro with the previous Head pros? they are apples and oranges, one is midplus with open pattern and the others are mid with dense pattern? Sorry I am being analitical I know.

    "Granville compared the racquet to previous Prestige Pros. "The Prestige Pro version seems to be slightly underpowered when compared with the heritage Prestige Pro racquets. Not enough plow-through.
     
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  26. SonRK

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    I just realized now (thanks to the big picture in the review) that the stenciling on it is the older Head logo o_o
     
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    It's being used on the Radical Team as well as the Instinct. I think they just photoshop the logo in, anyway.

    -SF
     
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  28. Alafter

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    Wow this set of prestige got thrashed.
     
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  29. bluetrain4

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    I love the TW staff, but I always find user comments much more useful, though you have to wait for them.

    Actual, everyday users seem almost overanalytical, which I like, because there is always a lot of information, and I can disregard what I like.

    Also, they are way more honest, and have no problems going off on a frame.
     
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  30. VikingSamurai

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    Yeah, but I didn't see anyone kicking serves 3 feet over the head of anyone else? ;)

    On a side note, a few of the guys commented on the length of the grip.. When placed next to my LM Prestige, it was the first thing I noticed.. For me it isn't a problem having a 1HBH, but I immediately thought about 2 handed players and thought how short it seemed..
     
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  31. stormholloway

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    Interesting. I find the MG to be one of the heftier of the Prestige line.

    I also found it to be outstanding at net. To each his own I guess.
     
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  32. Shangri La

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    Rather unexpected low scores given the positive feedback from TT posters.
     
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  33. Chauvalito

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    From what I have read, and I have also asked on this board, the FP is thought of as having more power. The stiffness is a couple points higher, so that may make up for the difference.

    The overall consensus for the MP seemed to be a muted feel which combined with a lower weight than previous iterations of the prestige produces less plow through, and less power...I just don't see where HEAD wanted to go with this stick...are they trying to make the MP less of niche players racket by making it lighter?

    My overall conclusion is that if you want power, and a crisp feel, the FP may be the better choice. In the FP review the Mid plus was described as having "useful pop". That seems to be missing from the migrogel line. This might make sense though, given the supposed materials change, a gel like material would absorb a lot more of the shock of a stroke...producing the muted and sometimes disconnected feel in the review.

    that was a bit of a monologue there....
     
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    Excerpt from the FP Prestige Review - A contrast to the MG review(which was tepid at

    Chris enjoyed the Flexpoint Prestige Midplus the most out of the three head sizes when it came to trading groundstrokes. "My favorite of the three off the ground, this one offered me the best combination of control, feel and spin production. I was able to hit with good consistency with this racquet. I didn't find any areas of my game where the racquet didn't feel solid. I was able to hit my slice backhands with good spin and accuracy, my topspin forehand had good pace and spin and I found good spin and control on my two-handed backhand. The racquet felt well weighted and offered a much firmer response compared to the Liquidmetal Prestige Midplus. This Flexpoint version of the Prestige Midplus just felt solid on every hit - much more so than the previous Liquidmetal version." Granville also found the racquet a great fit for his groundstroke game. "I felt the Midplus was really the perfect headsize for this racquet model. With the Midplus the ball seemed to sink a little deeper into the stringbed, offering that extra millisecond of dwell time, which can make a huge difference in confidence and control. I also found the stringbed accommodated more topspin potential. In addition to the added control, I could generate a bit more pace with a full swing and end the point with one stroke, given the proper opportunity. I was most confident with the Flexpoint Prestige Midplus as my shots were landing deeper into the court."


    - This is an excerpt from the TW review of the FP prestige.
     
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    Well from reading the review it looks as though the mid is the worst of the three. I'm not surprised really, the FXP prestige mid scored much lower then the MP version.
     
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    Maybe the reviews will keep the bandwagoners away from this frame.

    The feedback over at **** is overwhelmingly positive though. I love the racquet.
     
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    Ditto...........
     
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  38. OnyxZ28

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    Why would you not want bandwagoners? They make for an awesome used racket market!
     
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    that is because all the play testers are 5.0 and below, only player who MIGH is maybe granville, all play testers agreed and said it has tons of spin kick bit etc... , I wonder why:confused:
     
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  40. Pro_Tour_630

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    that is great, hope they will not sell and will be forced to reduce the price for us cheapskates :)
     
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    Drak,

    On paper, I can see your logic. However, for whatever reasons, I've had far better results when hitting with the Kblade Tour. I respectfully disagree concerning the sweetspots. I feel the sweetspot in the Kblade Tour is much bigger, and for a 93" headsize, is quite forgiving. The fact that its weight, both static and swing, are lighter as well as being a little bit stiffer, I find the power to be more than ample. String set-up as well as tension can factor a bit as well. Bottom line, the results and consistency are the deciding factors for me.

    Spencer, TW.
     
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  42. sureshs

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    I would say 4.5 and below
     
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    Could early product versions furnished to testers be different than the production batch?

    I played with Head equipment for 8 years (Trisys 260, Ti.Radical, and Prestige), but lately have not been impressed with any of their products. To me the review was correct.
     
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    If you don't agree with our player descriptions and ratings, bring your sticks. We are here Monday through Friday in San Luis Obispo, CA.

    Danny is one of the better Open level players in the area and consistently makes it into the finals of Open tournaments.

    I'm not going to float my own boat here, but love to compete and would be happy to hit with anyone who's passing through.

    Chris, TW.
     
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  45. WhatItIs

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    *OH SNAP!*

    PWNED. I say sureshs makes a lil trip to San Luis Obispo.
     
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    I trust the ratings TW gives their playtesters. Even if you are skeptical, you can see their videos and search their results since you know their names.

    On the otherhand, I don't trust the opinions of anonymous posters on an internet forum. Many of them are just pernicious, know-nothings.
     
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    In my part of the world that's called a challenge, to either put up or shut up.

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    What the heck ... Chaho changed his user name???
     
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    I wouldn't have said it better Chris !

    Chris, Granville, Danny and Spencer seems really good to me and at least as good as their rating shows.

    So, enjoy their reviews for christ sake :)
     
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    i am gunna stick my neck out here, feel free to disagree.... most tennis specialists tend to have better deals with one of the major brands over the others. I truly believe tennis warehouse has very good terms with wilson and not such good terms with head. as a result they will always make the wilson ranges appear better to consumers where possible.


    one clue is how well they rated the k90. I don't care what anyone says - most of these play-testers are not skilled enough to realise the potential of this stick to benefit their games, yet they give it the highest rating on the website..... strange!!! if it is so good in their eyes, why does not 1 of them use it considering they think it's the best racquet in their whole range???



    this point is based on no hard evidence and its just a hunch i have....discuss!
     
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