TW Review: Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85

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  2. BreakPoint

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    Great review, guys!!

    I concur with everything you guys said in the video about this SMU "re-issue" PS 6.0 85. :)

    BTW, any update on when TW will be receiving more stock of these? :)
     
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    Thanks for the review. When will they be back in stock?
     
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    Thanks guys for the video review. I was really looking forward to that.

    Great to hear your opinions.
     
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    God, now I'm going to have to try this frame again .. kudos to TW's marketing department :):|

    Been a few years since I've hit with it

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    Anyone try full co-poly on this frame?
     
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  6. PandaKing

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    Going to try a 30# poly bed once I buy this racket!!!!
     
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  7. Bud

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    Pound or kg? :)
     
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    We expect another shipment of these around 8/28.

    Jason, TW
     
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    Ya I went with a full bed of SPPPP 17g and it feels great.

    Awesome review guys, I loved when Troy said "I had some fears" :) but he looked like he dialed it in nicely. Definitely agree with you guys, the feel is ridiculous.

    Thanks for the review, it was great to hear your guys thoughts and see you hit with the classic.
     
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    Pounds :p rather not lose my arm in a battle. *cough* hope its closer to 100 now xD. Interesting how the 85 model is still being made :O
     
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  11. snoflewis

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    do i really need to get a few of these sticks??
    had an SV...kinda want some classics going forward lol.
     
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    I actually like this version more than the SV / Chicago
    Maybe it's because I always prefer flexible racquets
     
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    Sincerely, I have only tried once a SV, but liked this one more, just like jemsiter, after a the PSLtd I really fell in love with flexible sticks!
     
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    Same here. I like this new version more as well because it's lighter, easier to swing, and not as stiff as the older versions. :)
     
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    Yup, it is. And a low swingweight of only 321, too. :)
     
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    Will this racquet be constantly available?
    as i've just spent quite a bit on 3 4D100s.....
     
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    That's amazing for such a hefty frame :)
     
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    I will stock up when it becomes available again since I plan on using this as my main stick for a long time.
    Also who knows if there will be another run after this?
    Some crazy people already selling this reissue for more than $400 on **** right now. Ridiculous.
     
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    Agreed!

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    TW, please limit the number to 4 per customer (as opposed to 6) on the next batch. Thanks ;)
     
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    That's the smoothest (in terms of stroke production) video review that I've seen. I understand that there's a lot of editing and that the shanks were edited out but the players were hitting the ball more comfortably than I can remember.

    Granville had this pretty big grin talking to Spencer about the frame too.
     
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    I commend these guys for continually putting themselves out there for people to actually see them use and critique the products.
     
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  23. jorel

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    i say two.........
     
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    and i know most wont want to hear this but raise the price to 179
     
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    and order more 4 1/4 and 4 3/8 rather than 1/2and 5/8
     
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    no. raising the price won't help. that would just make them sell for a higher price on e***

    the only way to solve this is to have the PS 85 constantly available and for a reasonable price ($149 is good, $129 would be great!)

    when supply >= demand, those who bought a bunch and hoping to make a huge profit would end up having 20+ PS 85 which they don't have the skills to play with
     
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    yes, please please please... more 4 1/4 this time
    i will literally refresh the TW website on 8/28 and once it becomes available, i will order a few
    i regret i only ordered one 4 1/4 in the first run... and then the 4 1/4 sold out in less than 24 hours
     
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  28. jorel

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    TW is a business.. they are not the Peace Corp.

    If they sell out at 149... they might sell out at 179
    keep demand high and i think they could sell them for 200
    sux for the consumer great for the business

    same with the Bosworth vintage racqs...when they first started offering them a few years ago... u could buy one for a steal... now they are sold more at market value (people used to buy them cheap from TW and sell them online for 3x that)
     
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    /they might sell out at 179 but it's a SMU (i assume it will be again) and they don't want either of 2 things happening, A) they start at 200 nothing sells and they have to reduce it's price or B) they get stuck with a load of stock as the buy to resell people have already stocked up and those of us who want them to play may alreadty have em.
    The now much sought after head pro tour was sold off on here for $59.99 now it'd be nice to go back in time and buy a few of those!:)
     
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    i wish i bought some too

    but i highly doubt that the 6.0 would ever get down to 59.99
     
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    I'm sure the price is set by Wilson and their authorized retailers. You're right that Wilson wouldn't want to set the price point too high and hurt sales, but TW (and other retailers) can't turn around and jack up the price and gouge the consumer.

    I wonder what the perception of the PS85, from the market standpoint, would be if the price from authorized retailers exceeds that of say the BLX90?
     
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  32. jorel

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    and out sold the BLX90

    interesting
     
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    Two would be even better! However, I can understand TW wanting to also move their stock as they make a nice profit on each racquet sold :)

    Now that they understand how popular the frame is, perhaps they will limit it so others don't just buy them to resell for a tidy profit on fleabay.

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    BTW, I thought other retailers were supposed to receive some of these frames as well. However, I can't find any other retailer selling them.
     
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  34. bluetrain4

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    There's a clear demand for the frame. Don't make this a limited edition or other nonsense. I'd even buy one for fun and nostalgia, though I probably wouldn't play with it regularly.

    Keep on selling it until demand runs thin. Why limit your profit potential?
     
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    OR some enterprising folks at TW could be the ones on the bay(IF the price were high enough! ;) ) Not that there's anything wrong with that... :)
     
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    I don't think a two-frame limit would deter the "flippers."

    2......3......6......they'll just make several orders masquerading as multiple buyers as they always have.

    Plus that doesn't help players that really want to make the PS85 their playing frame and want to stock up solely for themselves. For them, six per customer is appropriate.

    There's only so much you can do to police peoples' behavior.
     
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    I'm sure a side-business like that would definitely be frowned upon.

    Although that reminds me of the video of Spencer's covert-op breaking into the TW warehouse to get at the kPS88 prior to its release.
     
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    i think he was making fun of us:)
     
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    I see someone is trying to sell one for about $400 on evilbay
     
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    I guess there are enough tennis players suffering from delusions of self-grandeur to re-issue PS 85 6.0. Of course the fact that Fed and Sampras, 2 GOAT candidates, have moved on to 90 and 100 won't deter the TT players from leading up this frame to 14.8oz. Instead of buying PS 85, wait a few more years until they re-issue the Jack Kramer vintage wood racket with the wooden press instead of a racket cover.

    Seriously speaking, I'd really like to see Wilson make PS 98 or 100 styled just like PS 85. Now that's something that people (including Fed) can realistically use and benefit from.
     
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    I must correct you on this, as I am an innocent man! It was Chris who thieved the kPS88...he was the man behind the balaclava. I was slated for the role, but couldn't make weight. The character had to be svelte enough to get through the sliver opening of the container door;) I was relegated to one of the mindless henchmen that gets blasted with a tennis ball as Chris made his escape.

    Spencer, TW.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ4sEXiRP4k&feature=related
     
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    Ya I know, bout as repetitive as the "PS85 is unplayable, no one can play the modern game with anything under 98sqin, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc." posts eh?
     
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    I don't know why people keeps on saying bigger headsize = better
    I played with Prince Ozone tour and EXO3 tour (100 sq inch) for a very long period of time before I've decided to switch to the PS 85 recently. I don't notice THAT big a difference. I think someone on the forum posted a pic comparing 85 and 100 headsize. If you shank a ball on 85 you're gonna shank on a 100.
    I'm not a pro nor a competitive player, but I feel good playing with the PS 85. My tennis buddies all agree I play better with the PS 85 than my previous 100 sq inch EXO3 tour
     
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  46. stevewcosta

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    Although I love the 6.0 85, I am too old, slow and blind to reep the full benefit of this frame. I would love a 95 closer to the 85 specs (20MM is too thick in my book - 18 would be perfect...keep low swingweight and no more than mid-12, maybe even 12 - 12.5). Would be awesome.
     
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  47. TenFanLA

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    Not necessarily. Just because Sampras and Fed can't play at their top level with PS 85 doesn't mean one of the top TTers (like you) can't. I mean, those 2 aren't even semipros on TT. I suppose when they reissue Commodore 64, you will put down the iPad, Dell, etc.
     
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  48. TenFanLA

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    I don't doubt that you may play better with PS 85 than EXO Tour. I suspect that EXO is not a good fit for you. I do, however, believe that you would play better with a PS 95 or 100 6.0 style than PS 85, esp. when the hitting pace and spin pick up.
     
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  49. floydcouncil

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    Dinosaurs ..................

    These frames really can't compete in today's groundie game.

    Wake up folks...
     
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  50. TenFanLA

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    That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. PS 85 6.0 will go down in history as one of, if not the, GOAT frames that revolutionized the sport. So why not use that layout, sprinkle in some new technology and "re-issue" a 95, 98 or 100 version? That would be something.
     
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