TW Reviews: New Prince racquets

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    I am foaming at the mouth...

    Andy, lmao nice hat!!!!!
     
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    Great vids. Thanks TW.
     
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    Thanks for the reviews!
     
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    I don't think I have seen such a large discrepancy between playtesters opinions on a racquet as on the Tour 98 ESP with Boone giving it a 9.2 and Andy giving it a 5.7.
     
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  7. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's a whole lot of cheesing and happy folks in those Response and Graphite 100 video reviews. :)
     
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    Will there be a review for the graphite 107?
     
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    If only the Response was extended length I'd be crazy close to the perfect frame for me. Looks great, sounds great, really nice surprise.
     
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    Is there a Tour ESP 100 Review Brittany?
     
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    Wow Spencer, your game has improved! :)
     
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    Dgdavid,

    All the playtest reviews we did are posted. So, unfortunately, we did not review the Prince Tour 100T racquet.

    Brittany, TW
     
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    Andy's hat made me laugh. Very good.
    I think he needs to wear that in their Friday doubles.
     
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    Yep, it would make for good target practice for anyone on the other side of the net! :mrgreen:

    Kidding! (kind of) :wink:

    Michelle, TW
     
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    When will the written reviews be up?

    I've a feeling the scores will be high for the graphite 100 and response.
     
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    I cannot wait to demo the Graphite 100 and Response!!
     
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    Thank You Tw, Always Fun To Watch.
     
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    Jason,

    Can you give your feedback on the ESP 100T vs the Steam 99S? I really appreciate your feedback as a 4.0 guy with history of TE.

    Really loved the Steam 99S, with Yonex Poly Pro Tour, but my elbow didn't like me hitting 4 days a week with it so I sold them both. :(

    Thanks much for all the reviews and wishing TW and Prince great success with these new Prince frames.
     
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    When will the Prince Synergy 26DB be rereleased? I think it would fit in great with todays style of tennis.
     
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    Wow lots of reviews up pretty quickly. Thanks TW, time to do some watching.
    :)
     
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    Strongly considering getting that Prince Tour 100T to see if I like it over my trusted Speedport Tours. Looks like they would need a little lead tape though
     
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    I've been playing with the Tour 100T for a month (seeding demo in current Tour 100 PJ). Played it stock and it is fine but playing two singles matches tomorrow with 2g at 12 (and fresh 15g strings).
    It is a nice racket, definitely comfortable and much less noodly that Tour 100. Easier to swing than 99S but less plow. Also more forgiving (not that the 99S isn't). Much wider face at 3/9.
     
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    Have you considered adding a leather grip and extra lead to get the static weight up in the 330-335 gram range to get more plow? Love the fact the Prince ESP patterns have 16 crosses and that the 100T and 98 are less stiff than the Wilson 99S.

    My wishlist : Wilson frame 64-66 RDC, 16x16, 300-310 grams unstrung , with a red/black or all black color pallet - hey it's a wish list ;)
    Going to try the 100T after adding some weight. My guess is I will love it since it is orange and I always seem to hit well with racquets that I think are FUGLY. :(
     
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    I will probably go down that route actually, good call. Got a leather grip sitting here so will stick it on but leave just 2g at 12 for now to see how that goes.
    Made a bit of a school boy error though, just had it strung with Bab Contact Spin 15L thinking it was a poly. Doh! At least it is supposed to be spin based. Will be interesting, expecting to lose some balls...
     
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  29. SonRK

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    This is exactly what happened when I bought an exo3 Tour thinking they would feel similar to my Speedport Tours.

    The Speedport Tours are just way stiffer, and provided more power than the exo3. It definitely felt like I had a wet noodle in my hand
     
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  30. Dgdavid

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    do you still play with the Speedport Tours SonRK?
     
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  31. SonRK

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    Yeap. They're all equipped with String Hole grommets so the strings don't move around as much and so there is more feel.

    I once had leather grips on them but they became noticeably too heavy, I thought I could grow into them, but after a year I went back to synthetic grip.

    It just feels so good
     
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    This was one heckuva a great frame. Those of you who do not play Prince just don't quite get us Princeheads. The Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the past, the new frames are out, and it is time to P.W.P. - Play With Passion! Great to see the TW playtesters have caught Prince fever as well!
     
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    Well, that and $30. :)
     
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    That Prince Response is a thing of beauty. May be slightly too heavy for me but I would love to try it.
     
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    Do the grip sizes of these new Prince rackets run small, large, or moderate?
     
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    Looks like a very nice frame for players with more classic style (like myself). The only thing that worries me a bit is the high stifness rating, and relatively high score for power; wonder if it is not too powerfull for a classic frame. After a short while with a prokennex Ki5, I am playing with a rebel 95 now and really like the low power level and dwell time it gives. How would the new Response compare to the rebel on those aspects?

    TW testers?? (great all the reviews were up so fast!)
     
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    Great reviews - thanks

    As usual. Looks like everyone was enjoying it too.

    I see that the 'in-stock for sale' date is October the somthing-th. Is that the same timeframe for demos being available?
     
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    I am really torn between the pog100 and the response97...

    Any tw peeps or prince experts have insight on how these differ?
     
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  40. bluetrain4

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    Response looks very intriguing, as does the Graphite 100. Graphite 107 I'm sure is nice, but I already have the other version of that which TW has sold for a long time. Graphite Longbody looks interesting as well. Bet it's great to hit with, but I'm wondering if I could actually use a 28 inch frame in competition.
     
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    The specs really seem to be a mix between classic player's frame and "modern" player's frame. Just on its face, the Response looks pretty classic - cosmetics, leather grip, flat beam, a full 12 oz, fairly headlight. But, 23 mm beam width and 68 stiffness veer more towards contemporary specs. 16x20 string pattern is sort of right in the middle, as is the 97 sq inch headsize.

    I really have no idea how this would play, and that's what intrigues me about it. The substantive weight, but the manageable SW really makes me think I'd like this.
     
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  42. louis netman

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    The Response 97's specs are somewhat different than the PRTI--

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991115095324/http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage.html?PCODE=PRT

    Precision Response Ti specs:

    Head Size: 97 sq. in. / 626 sq. cm.

    Length : 27 inches / 69 cm

    Construction : Graphite & Titanium

    23 mm Head / 23 mm Shaft

    Composition :Graphite & Titanium

    Strung Weight :12 ounces / 340 grams

    Power Level: Low-Medium

    Stiffness: 65

    Inertia (SW): 322

    Stroke Style: Full

    Swing speed: Fast

    Balance: 8pts Head Light

    Racquet Color: Red & Gray w/ yellow lettering

    Grip type: Duraperf Contour

    String Tension:53-63 pounds

    String Pattern:16 Mains / 20 Crosses

    Mains skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H

    Two Piece
    No shared holes

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    Response 97:

    Head Size:97 sq. in. / 625.81 sq. cm.

    Length: 27in / 68.58cm

    Strung Weight: 12oz / 340.19g

    Balance: 12.65in / 32.13cm / 7 pts HL

    Swingweight: 322

    Stiffness: 68

    Beam Width: 23mm / 23mm / 23mm /

    Composition: Graphite

    Power Level: Low

    Stroke Style: Full

    Swing Speed: Fast

    Racquet Colors:Black w/White Lettering and Red Stripes

    Grip Type: Prince Resi Pro

    String Pattern:16 Mains / 20 Crosses

    Mains skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H

    Two Pieces
     
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    ^^^
    The Response 97 is supposed to be the re-release of the Precision Response Midplus . Not the Ti Response........
     
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    In that case, the specs are waaay off (taken from TWs 1997/98 webpage):
    --Regardless, I'll have an ample supply of grommet sets for awhile:)

    Head Size: 97 sq. in. / 626 sq. cm.
    Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
    Construction: 23mm Straight Beam
    Composition: 100% Graphite

    --Strung Weight: 11.6 ounces / 329 grams--

    Power Level : Low
    Diagnostic Center (RDC) Data:

    --Stiffness: 67 (0-100)--

    --Inertia (SW): 342 --

    Stroke Style: Full
    Swing speed: Fast

    --Balance:2pts Head Light--

    Racquet Color: Black & Red w/ Yellow Lettering
    Grip type: Dura Tac
    String Tension:: 50-65 pounds
    String Pattern :16 Mains / 20 Crosses
    Mains skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H
    Two Piece
    No shared holes
     
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    Although it is much closer on specs to the ti response...
     
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    you all are makin me pull my hair out
     
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    any insight into these and the sizes
     
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    isn't there a variance on the POG 100 LB from the old and the newly released spec? I thought I read it somewhere, could someone help to summarize again? thanks!
     
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    nvm I found it. It'd be interesting for someone who's used the both older version and the re-released version for a comparison summary.

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    The initial POG 100 LB release (~2010) spec:

    Head Size:
    100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm.
    Length: 28 inches / 71 cm
    Strung Weight: 11.6oz / 329g
    Balance: 13pts Head Light
    Swingweight: 321
    Stiffness: 63
    Beam Width: 19 mm Straight Beam
    Composition: 100% Graphite
    Power Level: Low
    Swing Speed: Fast
    Grip Type: Prince Leather
    String Pattern:
    16 Mains / 18 Crosses
    Mains skip: 8T,8H
    Two Piece
    No shared holes
    String Tension: 45-60 pounds

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    POG 100 LB Re-release 2013 spec:

    Head Size:
    100 sq. in. / 645.16 sq. cm.
    Length: 28in / 71.12cm
    Strung Weight: 11.6oz / 328.85g
    Balance: 12.8in / 32.51cm / 10 pts HL
    Swingweight: 334
    Stiffness: 61
    Beam Width: 19mm / 19mm / 19mm /
    Composition: 100% Graphite!
    Power Level: Low
    Stroke Style: Full
    Swing Speed: Fast
    Racquet Colors:
    Black w/Green Stripe
    Grip Type: Prince Resi Pro
    String Pattern:
    16 Mains / 18 Crosses
    Mains skip: 8T 8H
    Two Pieces
    No Shared Holes
    String Tension: 53-63 pounds
     
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    We are finding the grips sizes to be running average. So a 3/8ths grip size feels like a 3/8ths grip.

    Hope that helps!

    Michelle, TW
     
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