TW Reviews: NEW Wilson Six One 95 Racquets

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  1. BodegaBay

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    I ordered both the 95S and 95 (18x20). I called three weeks ago and they noted 10/26 ETA. But it was changed to 11/1 on their site last two weeks. Looks like they did get allocations early. Looking forward to hitting with them on Wed!
     
  2. AYone

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    TW:

    How different is the feel of the new 16X18 95 versus the immediate predecessor? I feel like the testers were struggling to describe the difference, other than it felt a little crisper. Anything more on that?

    I've been mostly a k-factor guy -- to me nothing feels as solid as that iteration of the 16x18 95. In any event, I dabble with the blx amplifeel (which has a unique feel after contact and maybe more spin potential than the k-factor). I will probably end up getting the new one, even if it's just because I'm a fan of this line. But is it really that different other than a paint job?

    Thanks much.
     
  3. Pete.Sampras.

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    How can the 6.1 95 (16/18 version) at almost 350gr have an "86" in stability and the new Radical Pro which is more than 20gr lighter have an "88"?

    Is the Head really that stable or are the numbers a little off here? I have a hard time to imagine that a racket which is much lighter has such a great stability, regardless of its balance.
     
  4. Torres

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    Has anyone figured out what parallel drilling is?
     
  5. Fed Kennedy

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    The reviews are subjective, not scientific. The reviewers themselves change frequently. There is a tw power map where you can look up the twist weight of the racquets. Even this is just a metric, not real tennis. Bottom line: your hunch is probably right: a heavier racquet will feel more stable. However, the radical may feel very stable for such a light racquet.
     
  6. Pete.Sampras.

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    I guess you're right about "feels very stable for a lighter racket". Well I guess there's no other way for me but to demo some of the new frames such as the 6.1 and the Pro to find out ;-)
     
  7. corners

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    Nope. At least I haven't, and it's not for lack of trying. :) I wonder if Wilson has figured it out yet. Name first, concept second?
     
  8. Bartelby

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    On my kblade. it is only the four middle cross strings where the grommets appear to be parallel to the string.

    Presumably parallel drilling means that there are more such grommets parallel to the plaine of the cross string rather than at an angle.

    Might it not improve the durability of strings, above all else?
     
  9. o0lunatik

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    I've now own a six-one 95s and strung it up over the weekend. I noticed that the drillout holes for the grommet is slightly larger in diameter than any previous wilsons that I've own, which is many. The grommet holes sit looser (took consideration that its new), and moves a bit when stringing. My educated guess is that it's a revamp of old technology(ies) to have the grommet holes a bit more flexible for increase sweetspot/power.

    I did enjoy hitting with the 95s. It was very easy to make it transition from the steam 99s and juice pro. It took me about a set to really get comfortable executing my shots, which is not that long, but I can only speak for myself. There was a real nice balance between power, spin and control. Sweetspot power was rated lower than the 99s and juice pro, but I have to contest this and is more controllable.

    Not to be repetitive, but my experience goes along with TW's review of this racquet. I have a flat hit like Michelle's, and did find it some shots to be slightly erratic at times. But I am definitely blaming this on technique. Where this racquet really shines is when your're able to execute good mechanics/tecniques in line with your shots that you are really able to feel what Chris' statement of when he stated that you're feeling like you're cheating with this racquet.

    I am definitely looking to make a full switch to this racquet next week when I get a couple more in! My strings choice and preference on the 95s are Ashaway Kevlar+ 17G / Pro Line II 16G. I've always found that consistency and snap back characteristics of kevlar is way superior to poly when crossed with a durable, larger gauge poly... especially on spin effect racquets.
     
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  10. corners

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    Listen up folks.
     
  11. SC in MA

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    As a long time 6.1 95 (16x18) user, I'm looking forward to hitting with the latest upgrade.

    I'm also very curious about the 95s version. Does it feel as solid as the non-S ? Does it even feel like a 6.1 95 ? Can a Nat Gut/Syn Gut hybrid be used, or is poly required ?
     
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    I am curious if you ever used the white Pro Staff 95 with the 16x19 pattern? As a 6.1 fan and user myself, I found that the Pro Staff was very different and I was disappointed with many aspects of that frame.
     
  13. AYone

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    If this question is for me, I tried each of the 100, 95, and 90 current PSs. Unfortunately both the 100 and 95 made my hand feel numb after playing with them. Each was too whippy and unstable, even when modified.

    The 90 felt great, but was just a little too demanding over time for me. The 90 is the closest comparison to the 6.1 series.

    I'm sure you can doctor up the current PS 95 to play similarly to the current 6.1 95, but I'd just get the 6.1 95 in that case.

    In any event, TW, any thoughts on my prior question -- any discernable difference between the current 6.1 95 and parallel drilling models?
     
  14. o0lunatik

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    Status updated to IN STOCK for new Six One 95's. Those who pre ordered should receive their racquets soon to post feedbacks for laggards.
     
  15. rnrd001

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    I've dropped the Steam 99S because of string durability which was hardly exceeding (for me) 3hours of play.
    What do you guys think of the string pattern of the 95S. Will it me more string-durability friendly? Should I expect a 10-12Hours of play from a 16 poly?
     
  16. o0lunatik

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    I did own several 99S' and experienced similar results with stings. String movement is still plenty on the 95S but much less than the 99S. I've hit with my 95S 6 days now and initially strung it with 16G Tour Bite / 16G Pro Line II which lasted me about approx 6.5 hrs of heavy hitting. This is double what I've gotten from the 99S. Tour Bite starts to die after roughly 4 hours anyways, so a fresh set is always good.
     
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    I love the new cosmetics. You really have to see the updated lineup live before casting judgement. The PWS measure lines are actually nice and not gaudy as first thought. The matte white is actually more satin and has a classy but subtle sheen to it. It's an all around good looking racquet. In glad I waited because the zebra looks on the 2012-2013 models bothered me a little.
     
  22. ilovetennis212

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    Got mine from TW.
    Liked the pj.
    Strung up gut 51 cross 46
    I will see how it works :)
     
  23. sureshs

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    The music in the video review is too overwhelming. I can hardly hear the playtesters talk. Please don't add any music in future videos.
     
  24. BLX_Andy

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    Smart of you to put "Not for the faint of heart" in the cons section. The Six.One 95 is an amazing line of racquets but it will punish you if you become lazy.
     
  25. Big John

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    So is it fair to say that other than the upgraded cosmetics, with the obvious exception of the 6 1 95 Spin Effect and the change of grommets/drilling, the 16 18 and 18 20 versions are the same as the previous BLX 2 models?

    I had heard rumors of Wilson going back to the braided graphite/kevlar construction of the 6 1 Classic but can't find anything to support this, perhaps I was confused with the Prostaff line where the 95 clearly needed some work, that racquet was a great disappointment to me.

    The balance and flex appear to be the same. I guess I was hoping for a return to more like the Classic or HPS versions of the 6 1..

    Can anyone enlighten me here? I just don't seem to be able to find anything current that plays as well as the Classic and HPS. Haven't hit the NCode but am told it is great, the KFactor is clearly stiffer and more powerful, the BLX really muted and the BLX 2 like a poorer KFactor, is this a reasonable assessment?
     
  26. Lavs

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    was wondering about that too. Would be great if Wilson comes back to Braided Graphite/Kevlar formula.
     
  27. Big John

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    So that's the conclusion, no changes to the 6 1 95 other than 'parallel drilling' and updated paint on the 16 18 and 18 20 versions?

    Having been playing lately with the Classic and the HPS 6 1 95, there is one substantial difference between those first 6 1 95's and the current versions and that is the balance. It is pretty easy to get those earlier sticks to say mid 340's, balance 30.5, just not possible with the current racquets, weights tend to get in to the high 350's even 360's to get that sort of balance and that is getting pretty hefty.

    Thing I always loved about the 6 1 95 was the power on serve. I made a few blade 98 Spin Effects to the sort of balance and weight I'm talking about but found that the string bed felt kind of mushy and there just wasn't that nasty pop on my first serve. Can anyone confirm if this is the case with the 2014 6 1 95 S?


    Has anyone here bought the 6 1 95 L and leaded and siliconed it up to more like 6 1 95 specs? That could be the answer here perhaps, thoughts?
     
  28. Bartelby

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    Big claims are made for the parallel drilling increasing the size of the sweetspot on this iteration. Any confirmation from users?
     
  29. rnrd001

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    95S owners, any further feedback on how the frame actually plays after test?
     
  30. AYone

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    I've been looking for answers on this too my friend. My friend that works in a tennis shop believed this to be the case. I compared just the frame shape and size and it does seem to me a little thicker, but it could be an illusion of the PJ. Also the frame does say it contains graphite, instead of just BLX, so maybe that adds to the slight crisper feel (as suggested by the TW testers). I'll probably end up buying the 16x18 closer to the holidays and cure my curiosity. But then again, with the Bab strikes and others I want to try, I may have to choose wisely.
     
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    TW - I love the music on the video. Please amp it up! But I do have one complaint....we need more cowbell.

    Yeah baby.....video reviews are great.
     
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    Yes, this is true on the new Pro Staff racquets. I cannot confirm any such details for the Six.Ones

    The layup was changed at one point and the orientation of the layers was switched. With the new racquets Wilson has gone back to the classic layup with their braided kevlar/graphite. We have requested specifics on how/when the change was made. As far as we have traced it on our own, the kevlar/graphite braid dates back to around 1980-81 with the Ultra, then was used on the following Pro Staffs in 82. It was a 50% inner kevlar/graphite braid with a 100% graphite outer braid. We are not sure when the orientation of the layers was switched, but as I stated, we are trying to find out.

    In regards to the Pro Staffs, I really like the feel and response of the new 90 and 95. If you are a fan of those lines, they are all worth a demo, too. Interestingly, I struggled on serve initially with the 90, then towards the end of the month-long test started to hit it better. On the day we shot the video review, I served out of my mind with it! Still not even close enough to tempt me away from the 95S, though :)

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  33. corners

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    If you can get the full story on the Pro Staff layups over time that would be awesome. Lots of people on the board would be interested in that kind of info. Thanks.
     
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    Just noticed that the S version appears to have the more traditional "squarer" butt cap whereas the non S version seems to have the more rounded butt cap found on models such as the Blade.

    Wonder why Wilson have done that. I personally prefer the squarer version found on the six ones of old so it's a shame to see them move away from this.
     
  36. PED

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    I use the 6.1 Team currently and was fairly unexcited about trying the new 95L version.

    I was wrong, my buddy had one on hand today and it feels quite different to my BLX Team.

    My Team has 3g of lead at the tip and hits an effortless big ball. It's funny but the new 6.1 one feels more solid stock with no lead. I was really surprised.

    The overall feel is different with the 95L, it just feels more solid throughout. Similar to when Babolat went from the Pure Storm Tour to the GT version: just better all around.

    Not really sure about how parallel drilling works - my thoughts before trying were: Gimmick but it's def a step up over the BLX version. Sweet spot is bigger and I switched back to back with my old stick and much preferred the new one. Seemed to be more put away power on the big flat ones as well.

    I was planning on waiting for either the Strike or Pure Control but I like the new Wilson so much I ordered two of these instead. Hard to beat at $149 each.
     
  37. surrealfx

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    To all of you who are wondering if this is just a cosmetics and parallel drilling update, I think the racket is still worth a demo. I remember looking at the YouTek IG Prestige and thinking it was just a paint job of the YouTek version. Little did I know that the two were very different, and I have ended up falling in love with the IG.
     
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    Dear TW Staff,

    Could you reveal any news about ProStaff 2014?

    Do you feel the new 95 with braided graphite/kevlar is stiffer/flexier than 2012 one?
     
  39. dmcb101

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    I am just wondering when you will post the review of the new prostaffs. Hit the 95s and was surprised at its performance; light years ahead of last years prostaff 95.
     
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