Two handed backhand question

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Straight or slanted knuckles thbh dominant hand?

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  1. TennisProdigy

    TennisProdigy Semi-Pro

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    For you guys with a two handed backhand, my boss who is a well known coach his son just played in the us open main draw dubs, says that both hands, especially the dominant hand for he thbh needs to have the knuckles completely straight on the bevel for the cleanest hit. For my thbh the knuckles on my non dominant hand are straight but the knuckles for my dominant hand are slanted. I feel slanted knuckles give me reach and are advantageous for hitting the ball full stretch. Straight knuckles allow for an easier time flattening the ball out and getting maximum power IMO, thoughts?

    Overall, I feel like my boss' model for a thbh model is best but it's hard for me to relearn muscle memory when I already have a solid thbh.
     
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  2. WildVolley

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    Does this coach give a reason for this advice?

    My knuckles go across more than one bevel, more like my forehand grip just held with my other hand.
     
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  3. TennisProdigy

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    Yeah, he said it allows for the "best" follow-through and thus the "cleanest hit." Kind of hard to explain, but I think he means straight knuckles more easily allows for the follow-through where the strings are parallel to your back like the djokovic backhand vs. the follow-though where the strings are perpendicular to your back

    murray backhand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDjiRDPFaug
    djokovic backhand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6L0MICG1w

    IMO jokers knuckles look more straight on dominant hand while murray's appear to be more slanted.

    added - agassi straight knuckles it appears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5xVpACt1Y
     
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  4. Coolio

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    Don't listen to him. I think he is talking rubbish.
    Pros learnt by picking up a racquet, holding it within a range of acceptable grips and seeing what feels good for them. Then they hit a million balls and are in the top 100.
    You have a grip that feels good and a solid backhand. Go practice!
     
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  5. TennisProdigy

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    I think that both types can definitely work and there are pros that make both types work. As someone who is looking to maximize their game with the least amount of effort, I'd thought I'd get everyones 2 cents on here just to see what the results were. Of course pros will do whats comfortable for them and can make them work (connors made his serve "work," and moya made his backhand "work"), but that doesn't mean that their shots are the most ideal, and for a recreational player who only has a set amount of time to practice each week, I want to use that time as best as possible to reach my potential!
     
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  6. Coolio

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    TennisProgidy.
    Should I have my feet 4inches or 8inches apart on my platform serve?
    Should I point my feet at parallel with the service line or angle them at 45 degrees or some other angle?

    These like yours are things you should not worry about in tennis!
     
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  7. TennisProdigy

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    If people here obsess about string gauge, racquet stiffness, beam width, ect. Then I think I'm certainly in good company if I want to obsess about absolutely perfect technique! :)
     
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  8. DavaiMarat

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    I actually think how extreme your grip effects your follow through versus your parallel knuckles theory but they may not be mutually exclusive of each other.

    I find when I show beginners I use a conservative eastern on my lefthand and continental on the right. The gives more of a rotational motion with a follow thru more across my body (Safin/ Murray). However when I play my grips are lh semi-western and a eastern rh. This promotes more spin and a follow thru over the shoulder.

    With more extreme grips, the follow thru is smoother and more above the shoulder. With more conservative grips, the follow thru is more forced and rotational.

    My 2 cents.
     
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  9. Dimcorner

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    Equipment is something you can control easily.
    Technique is something that is MUCH more variable so perfecting up to a point it will not be useful. Also everyone has a different body type and style so technique will not suit everyone. Not everyone in ATP/WTA swing the same with the same grip/takeback/follow thru.

    For example you can practice a ball toss for serve all you want, but you will never get it exactly in the same spot every single time. Weather, tiredness, sun in your face, etc can affect the toss. If you get it close enough then you can adjust the rest of your swing to take into account that shift. So you can obsess about perfect technique but I don't think you will find it.
     
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  10. rkelley

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    I haven't heard this advice. Given the range of grips and arm structures that pros use for a 2hbh, I'm doubtful that such a blanket statement is valid.
     
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  11. LeeD

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    Posts 4 and 6 nailed it.
    Too many different 2hbh's to say ONE style is best.
    Grab racket, start hitting, see if it goes good, keep practicing.
    Harold Solomon used right hand eBACKhand and left SW forehand.
    His doubles partner, one inch taller, used conti right hand and eFOREhand left.
     
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  12. BevelDevil

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    Djoker and Murray's knuckles are way more slanted than Agassi's. Nadal's is somewhere in-between.

    This actually matters a lot. Agassi uses his dominant hand a lot on his backhand. Nadal is close to Agassi in terms of using the dominant hand. Djoker and Murray are less so.

    So the moral is, if you want a dominant-hand 2hbh, use straight knuckles. If you want an off-hand 2hbh use a lot of slant. If you want a more balanced stroke, us something in between.(If you want a 1hbh, definitely use straight knuckles.)

    So while there are a wide variety of grips to use, the grip should match the other aspects of the stroke, such as dominant-/off-hand balance.
     
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