Two types of racquet set ups and hitters, which are you?

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  1. Mick3391

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    Fed recently said something like "There are only about 3 players using smaller heads and one hand shots".

    It seems to me there is two kinds of players, one who uses a smaller size head with one hand everything, the other is a larger head with two handed shots, which are you and why?

    I'm just curious as to why. I have never, ever used 2 hand shots in my life, not that there is anything wrong with it, I'm not sure I'd know how, I was taught one handed everything and I love it.

    But am I not right, that there are one handed smaller head hitters and larger head two handed hitters?

    I don't even know why one would use two hands, although there is a clear reason as many successful pro's use two hands.
     
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  2. I Heart Thomas Muster

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    I play with a one handed backhand but have always preferred racquets in the 98" size and have been playing with Youtek Rad Pros for a couple of years now which are 100". They've performed so well for me I'm having a hard time replacing them. I've also played with the Prince Graphite OS and while visually I don't like a racquet that size I would have no problem going back to it. Maybe a smaller head is more conducive to a one handed backhand, but I've had no problem with the larger racquets.
     
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  3. Doubles

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    I've always used a one hander with a head size of 100" or less, but I wouldn't have a problem wit switching to something bigger if I thought I would play better with it.
     
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  4. Brian11785

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    I guess I'm an outlier: I play two hands on both sides with a 95 square inch head.
     
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  5. db10s

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    One on the fh, two on the bh, but I hit the occasional slice 1hbh
     
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  6. db10s

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    *with a 98"
     
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  7. sureshs

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    Lube uses a PD didn't he
     
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  8. MikeHitsHard93

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    I started out with only a slice bh. That gradually developed into a 1hbh. I then started to hit harder and against harder hitting opponents, and it should be noted that my oversize racket was much too light for this level of play. I then developed a 2hbh to compensate for the lack of stability on my 1hbh and light racket. Now I primarily use the 2hbh but occasionally switch to one hand if I need more firepower. I also not use a 100sq in head rather than 110.

    I must also note that the ps 90 felt amazing with a 1hbh. Two hands felt awkward.
     
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  9. lstewart

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    I think most players that have learned to play in recent years hit a two hand topspin backhand. I learned the game in the 1970's, so my backhand is one hand. Most of us that learned the game with what might be called old school or classic strokes came up playing with the old small head rackets. i don't think there is much of a relationship to racket size and what type of backhand you hit now. I've been playing 98 frames the past couple of years, but am hitting a 102 at the moment. My guess would be that 80% to 90% or more of good players coming up now will hit a 2 handed topspin backhand, and a 1 handed slice backhand.
     
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  10. Stringers

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    Pretty much exactly this. With a 1 handed backhand slice. I can hit a one hander if I want to, but I'm more comfortable with a 2 hander and that's what I hit with when hitting hard.

    Hit with 93-98" frames as well.
     
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  11. sansaephanh

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    i completely lost both my back hands. lol. I might start really working extremely hard on my 1hander to get it to even be able to hit rally balls, but my 2hander is worlds ahead even if my footwork isn't.

    I've almost always hit a 2hbh and i've always loved mids. For some reason I've always felt like they've conflicted, but it usually works itself out sooner or later.
     
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  12. dyldore

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    In general with a 1H it's easier to disguise dropshots and you have more reach. With a 2H you can have more spin/pop and stability.

    As for the rackets, a smaller, less stiff frame is more beneficial to a flatter hitter. You can generate more of your own pace when you hit flatter and don't want the racket to do too much or your shots will sail, because of this you also get improved feel/control.

    While a larger, stiffer frame is more beneficial to someone who hits with more topspin. Topspin shots have less of a hitting range (easier with a bigger head) and need more pace generated from a stiffer racket.
     
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  13. Fuji

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    I used to use a one handed backhand and I loved the stability mids provided simply because I wasn't hitting the sweet spot consistently. After I switched to a 2 handed backhand, I can hit with anything I want easily whether it's a PDR or a Prestige Mid my backhand is my better side. Also pretty much every top player I know hits a 2HBH and they all use mids. Mostly prestige mids or PS90's. Two handed provides for me personally better power/precision with a lot less mental effort then hitting a solid 1HBH.

    -Fuji
     
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  14. matchmaker

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    Eh, I think your typology doesn't work. It is perfectly viable to hit a doublehander with a mid and a one-handed backand with a midplus. I have come to prefer mids, but I could hit my onehander just as well, if not better with a midplus.
     
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  15. Fuji

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    Plus, look at Safin. Arguably one of the greatest 2HBH in history, and he uses the Prestige Mid. :razz:

    -Fuji
     
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  16. dhdriver

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    I first started playing with a one handed backhand (mostly used a slice). I played with a Babolat Aero Pro Drive for a while. Eventually I developed a two handed backhand because I wasn't able to put much into my one handed backhand. Then I switched to a Head Youtek Speed MP 18x20 because I wanted more control. Fast forward 2 years and I've been hitting with a Youtek Prestige Mid every since. I just got used to it. I actually just prefer hitting with midsized racquets.

    I could hit with probably racquets between 89-100 but I usually prefer the small heads because they feel more stable to me. I kept with my two handed backhand just cause it ended up becoming my best shot.
     
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  17. Orange614

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    I may help your theory. I grew up with two-handed backhand and used NXG OS and Wilson NTour Two 105 in high school. Then summer before college I broke a bone in my left wrist. Luckily, I had a good one-handed slice and used Prince O3 White to start college and after Freshman year toyed with sitching back to two-hands but it was futile. Then I used KBlade98 to finish out college. A year out and I think I have finally figured out the one-hander and I am now preferring 90 sq in rackets. Still trying to find one that is perfect tried Wilson PS85, KPS88, PS,N,BLX BLX PS90, POG 90, 93, PC600, and my favorite has been Yonex RDS 001 mid (Unfortunately grips are a size too big).

    I think the extra mass (that's in smaller headsize rackets) is better for one-handed swing that is less whippy than many two-handed swings. I have also been feeling my forehand become a longer smoother stroke with less wrist snapping since I stopped using the KBlade98.
     
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  18. Disneos

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    I prefer 98-100 sq and hit two handed backhands
     
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  19. Mick3391

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    Yea, I just don't understand the 2h backhand, when I hit my BLX 90 with one hand I have so much confidence, topspin, slice, nothing is any problem, I love it. I was just wondering why anyone would use two hands, like I say I played one hand since I was a kid and probably wouldn't know how to do a two handed backhand, doesn't make sense to me but certainly must have some purpose!
     
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  20. dyldore

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    You can generate more spin with a 2H, and you get improved stability making pickups and hard gets easier to hit back with pace.

    Plus your non-dominant arm doesn't look as skinny compared to your dominant arm. :razz:
     
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  21. cork_screw

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    I don't think people want to be grouped as just a single kind of hitter in just the two categories you offered.
     
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  22. BlueB

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    I have 1hbh and prefer head size: 100, 107, 95, 93, in that order.
    I hit all, TS, flat and slice of BH side.
     
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  23. PhrygianDominant

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    I have always used smaller headsizes, on both 1hbh and 2hbh, but am now going to start hitting a 98in head. I don't know if the headsize makes that much of a difference in results. For me, it's the difference of a higher tension over a larger headsize, or a looser tension on a smaller headsize, and your personal preference for either one, mostly as a matter of feedback and the way contact feels.
     
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  24. robbo1970

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    One hand for FH and BH. Never tried or was bothered with a 2HBH, I always feel I can get a longer swing with just the one hand.

    I use a 98 head.
     
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  25. 3fees

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    1HFH, 2HBH, 1HBH-sidespin-slice, 95 sq in.
     
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  26. NLBwell

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    A large-headed racket can feel unwieldy with a one-handed backhand - even if the swingweight isn't quite high. The quickness of a smaller head doesn't make nearly as much difference to two-handers.
    Of course there are one-handers who play with large heads and two handers who play with small heads, but I'd say the tendency is for one-handers to play with rackets with smaller head sizes.
     
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  27. Orange614

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    You can get a longer swing with one hander because the racket rotation comes from one arm instead of two. The hardest thing for me when adjusting between the two backhands is the contact point when hitting top spin. I'm about 6' 3" and my contact point on one hander is at least 2-3 feet in front of contact point for two hander.
     
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    It seems to me there is two kinds of players,..........

    im not sure when the serve and volley game really took hold.

    i recall edberg and mcenroe type players and wilander/lendl-ish backcourters. i dont know if one style of racket benefitted one type of game over the other.
     
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  29. TimothyO

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    1hbh, 95" or nominal 98"

    Note: PSGT is same height and width as 95" 4D 200Tout....it's really a 95" with extra area in the lower "corners".
     
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  30. stringertom

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    Not to mention Youzhny/Gasquet reliance on Head Extremes

    2hbh usually is more effective for players with a slight degree of ambidexterity...I play rightie but am a natural leftie who switched early on to a 2hbh and my Little League switch-hitting experience paved a smoother transition.

    Preferred headsize, besides long-ingrained use/preference, usually parallels type of swingpath...flatter/smaller, loopier/bigger. There are exceptions (Agassi) but this is racket science, not rocket science.
     
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  31. JackB1

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    I don't see any connection between racket head size and Wheather or not you hit with one or two hands?
     
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    ummmmmm

    I normally hit 1hbh groundies and 2hbh volleys (and overheads !), but then I play left and serve right ..... I suppose I appear rather schizoid to opponents.
    Current racquet size is 100", but I've done this since I was 10 playing with 85" woodies.
     
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  33. ryydman

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    I think Gasquet uses a Liquidmetal Instinct (18x19) with a paint job...
     
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    My bad...still a fat, bighead (racquet, that is)!
     
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  35. lim

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    Played everything from os to mid and my 1hbh benefited tremendously the more compact the head got. Wouldn't count out the difference in sw, beams, and hl balances that accompany the two different setups as contributing factors though.
     
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