Tyger StringEco 410

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Pro Staff Pete, May 12, 2008.

  1. Pro Staff Pete

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    Any thoughts, opinions on this machine? I'm considering buying an electric machine that is not too expensive.

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    €550 / $850

    Sadly I don't have the specs available.
     
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  2. iplaybetter

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    looks like one of the new SP machines
     
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  3. Pro Staff Pete

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    Anyway, I ordered it and it should be here by tomorrow or Friday :)

    Will post pictures when it's arrived.
     
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    Cool looking forward to the review. What warranty comes with it?
     
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    Difference beween Tyger and SP

    On the SP Jive both side arm are adjusted by a single adjustment knob, where the Tyger has an adjustment knob of each side arm.

    Is that what you noticed? :)
     
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  8. YULitle

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    That's all I got :D The electronics panel is 100% identical. I would be shocked if these weren't made in the same factory.
     
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  9. Pro Staff Pete

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    Wow that's like.. the same machine :D Would you prefer the Tyger for having an adjustment knob of each side arm?
     
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    One Knob vs Two Knobs

    I have used both setups and I prefer the single knob. :)
    It is faster, you have half as many knobs to turn, and since both arms are moving in towards the racquet frame together there is less of a chance of mounting the frame at an angle.
     
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  11. Pro Staff Pete

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    I see, I see.. but you wouldn't really call it a disadvantage would you? Just takes a bit longer I guess.
     
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    Just my Preference

    For over a year I had a mounting system like the Tyger on my Alpha Revo4K, and it worked just fine. It was a little slower, and you have to be a little more careful. Basically, you want both side arms to be applying the same pressure on both sides of the frame. When you have to adjust each are independently, this leave more opportunity to not have both arms applied with the same pressure. With the setup where both arm move in and out together, it kind of self lines up the frame.

    I would prefer the single knob, but I would not eliminate a machine because it uses two knobs to adjust the side arms.
     
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  13. Pro Staff Pete

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    Alright. I see what you mean there. The machine arrived today and you have to be really careful when mounting, since the side arms are all done seperately. Oh well.. I can live with it :) Just be real precise.

    Will post pictures later!
     
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    Congratulations

    Pro Staff Pete - I wish you all the best with your new stringer. I am sure the mounting system will work great. You need to find an electronic fish scale that can measure up to 75lbs or 35kgs, and test the tension.

    Good Luck
     
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    Hope if works for you years down the line!! Looks ok for durability. Where did you get it from?
     
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    Thanks guys. I got it from Tennis Planet (dot com), a Dutch site that you can compare with TW - not as big though. I've strung one racquet on it so far, a Tour 90 of a friend of mine, with Luxilon BB XP (which has been his favourite string for years) @ 57 lbs/26 kg.

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    The mounting system works fine. The knobs are easy to use and it doesn't take much time to mount the frame. I've never strung a racquet on an electric machine, but things speak for themselves. I already tried the gripper with a single piece of string - that I'd clamped in one of the clamps - and it was fairly easy to use. You really don't need to pull it tightly, a little pressure was enough, then press the green button and there it goes. It also has a pre-stretch function on it. Haven't used it yet though.

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    The swivel clamps, however, were new to me since I'd been using flying clamps on my dropweight. I'd seen them in different videos, but still I need to do some more stringjobs on this machine to get the hang of it. Meaning the movement of the clamps and locking them. Besides, I need to adjust the teeth to the point where I'm satisfied and don't need to change their clamping pressure on the string. When I got to the crosses I was getting more comfortable with them. Overall they work tremendously easy - as I expected.

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    I think this is a great machine for a nice price. If you don't want to spend too much money on a electric machine but you're still looking for a decent machine that will probably bring you years of joy, I'd go for this one OR the Silent Partner machine that appears to be the exact same machine, only different colours.
     
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  17. YULitle

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    Do you mind taking a picture of the mounting with out a racquet on it?
     
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    Will do it tomorrow and while we're on the subject, I have a question about it which you can probably answer :)
     
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  19. Mansewerz

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    Wow, such a nice machine. Did the racquet handle collide with the tensioner?

    And did the clamps work fine?
     
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  20. Mansewerz

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    Also, about this single knob thing, how do you know how precise you are? Like must you align the side arms symmetrical with the 12 and 6 o clock mounts?
     
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  21. Mansewerz

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    Bump to that
     
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  22. Pro Staff Pete

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    The racquet can turn 360 degrees and the clamps work fine, you have to adjust them though until you're satisfied.

    The mounting with the single knobs works fine. It's easy to adjust them. You have to allign them symmetrical, I guess, but if you don't rush you will center it perfectly.

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    The only thing I'm not fond of are the centre posts @ 12 and 6 o'clock. When I string my thin beam N90, the 2 grommets at 12 and 6 are resting on the white 'side-thingy' on each side of the center post instead of on the black pad. :???:
     
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  23. YULitle

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    Can you not remove the large portion from the center billiard? It looks like a neat idea, IF you can remove it.
     
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  24. Pro Staff Pete

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    That's what I was thinking of aswell. Will check the possibilities..

    I don't really see the use of it so I might aswell remove it, if it's possible
     
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    The white support 'block' can be removed from the center mounting point! :) And you can sort of click it back in it. I'll cut the side pieces off carefully and will put them back right in place. Will post a picture of the construction tomorrow.
     
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  26. Mansewerz

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    How are the cone base clamps?
     
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  27. Pro Staff Pete

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    Those are just fine and easy to adjust.

    Question. What's better for cleaning, nail polish remover or pure alcohol?
     
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  28. Zhou

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    Isopropyl alcohol is the usually cleaning liquid. I would consult your owners manual first though.
     
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  29. Pro Staff Pete

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    I did, was nothing in there. I asked the company where I bought it and they suggested pure alcohol. Yesterday I bought a tube of nail polish remover and I was wondering whether I could use that as well.
     
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  30. Zhou

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    I would not use nail polish remover. The Isopropyl Alcohol is what most companies recommend to clean your machine.
     
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  31. Pro Staff Pete

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    Thanks for your advice :)
     
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    I agree w/Zhou...nail polish remover contains acetone, which generally is used to remove paints (or nail polish:)). This would not be wise to use as it may take off some of the paint on your machine...at the very least it could change the color of the paint it comes in contact with.
     
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  33. Zhou

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    Even if it only comes in contact with the metal surfaces it is not good for the machine and could potentially void the warranty as the company could say improper care of the machine.
     
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    Nail polisher dissolves plastic.
     
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    This is acetone. Not a "nice" chemical.
     
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  36. Bud

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    So, being able to remove the center part of the white plastic piece at 12 o'clock... no more interference with any racquet grommets? Do the grommets rest above the top of the plastic piece with the center portion removed?
     
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  37. Matchball

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    @ Pro Staff Pete

    Pete, any feedback from the machine..?
    I am considering buying one myself (vs a crank + Wise).

    Are you satisfied so far ? Any issues ?
     
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  38. pstar

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    I would not recommend this machine to anyone.
    Had one last year, and I sent it back two times, before I got my money back.
    And that took some months :twisted:
    Was without a stringer the whole summer because of this.
    Purchased mine at ************ too, and that was the first and last time dealing with them.
     
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  39. Matchball

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    Ouch !! And then they say 5 years warranty . . .

    I am a little tired waiting for TW Europe to bring stringing machines and TW USA do not ship to Europe...
     
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    Yes, you got 5 years warranty.
    But when you have to send the machine away for weeks several times to be fixed, it`s not worth it IMO.
    Maybe I was just unlucky with my machine, but the way they treat their customers is no good in my book!
    I takes a little more time stringing on my ML100, but thats no problem for me as I just string my own and a few friends rackets.
    And when it comes to customer service, stringway is the really good.
     
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