UCSB Tennis

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  1. pricey_aus

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    What do you think of Cal-Santa Barbara tennis?

    Also, what do you think of the school?

    Any feedback would be great guys.

    cheers.
     
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    I went to school there a long time ago, so I am a bit biased. I don't think there is any question that it is one of the most beautiful places to go to college, it's right on the beach, great weather, and there are other....attractions on campus. Academics is good as with all UC schools. The tennis team is usually not top tier, they make the NCAA tournament sometimes and they are usually around the top 60. I haven't heard anything about budget cuts and how that will affect the atheltic teams, but that would be something to look into.

    Go Gauchos !
     
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    UCSB has the reputation as being the biggest party school among all UC schools. If you visit the school, you'll understand.
    That said, it's the 4th hardest to get into. Go figure

    I don't understand why the men's and women's tennis team doesn't do better. They have alot of courts, great weather and they have the best recruiting tool (location of campus)
    My guess, the coaches.

    If you're going for the "college life" go for it, but if your going for the tennis, make sure you check out the tennis program carefully.

    Good luck!
     
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    we will see how much they have improved when they play Stanford next week.:)
     
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    You added next to nothing in answering either of his questions. I hope you realized that.

    I can't help you much as to how their tennis program is, but I can chime in a little about the school itself. I would like to 2nd the above mentioned of the attractions of the campus. Beautiful location and definitely up there for partying. And the women are quite beautiful there. That's a big thing among the UC's, ha. Academics are alright. A UC is a UC. With that said though, LA, SD and Cal are definitely more rigorous than SB, but SB isn't a slouch either. Easier, but not a walk in the park. Definitely go check the place out yourself if you can.
     
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    The school/campus is awesome... went there for a graduate degree.

    I know a guy who played on their tennis team and he's an awesome player... easily 5.5+ (I think he played #1 or #2 spot). He's one of those guys that's just in a different league than most players (he's also 6'2 which doesn't hurt). Those booming serves that kicks above your head... heavy spin on the groundstrokes, etc.

    Let me guess... Berkeley, UCLA and UCSD are the top 3?
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, guys.

    It's a bit hard for me to visit at the moment because I am on the other side of the world, but i am planning a trip in September this year to go check it out, among other places.

    Obviously the location is unbelievable, but the tennis team seems to be on the rise (i think) which is also another positive.

    I don't know though, I'm so torn between college choices at the moment and I keep on changing my mind!!!!
     
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    If I really want to go to medical school should I choose to attend UCSB or UCSD?
     
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    Definitely UCSD or UCLA :)

    Tuition to the UC schools is also MUCH cheaper if you're a CA resident.

    A good plan of action is to establish residency (12 months)... while taking any lower level requirements at a community college. The CC's in CA are about $20 per credit hour currently (which is cheap).
     
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    You can't beat the location. I live in California and Santa Barbara is 2nd to none......for location.
     
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    I heard it was Chico?
     
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    CCs charge out of state tuition also, it's still cheaper than OOS tuition at a UC school, but it's more than the $20/unit.
     
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    As the old joke goes: "UCSB was disqualified - they are considered professionals."
     
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    Your guess would be very wrong. Marty Davis is the head coach at UCSB and there is little doubt he'd be among the top 10 coaches in men's college tennis.

    Seriously though, the best recruiting tool isn't location (who honestly believes it is ?), it's the prestige of the school and the success of their sporting programme. UCSB falls behind a lot of other schools in regards to the first and a long way behind them in terms of the other. Hell, Stanford has a third rate coach but the reputation of the school draws the best players.

    pricey_aus,

    Which are the schools you're considering? I work at a university in Australia (QUT in Qld) and have seen a few kids from up here (Michael Look, Maria Sorbello, J-P Smith,etc) head off to college in the States so might be able to give you a slightly different perspective.
     
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    Hey Andrew,

    UCSB just came back to me and said that they dont have enough scholarship money and have filled all their spots.

    At the moment im looking at: Oregon, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Middle Tennessee and Loyola Marymount. Still have no idea where im going to end up!!
     
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    Pricey for what it is worth...have a chat to a few of the A Grade guys in Melbourne-they may know a bit about colleges,coaches -a pity you couldn't talk to JP when he was back in Oz??.... you may have to just take a scholarship where you can get one..your ranking will make it tougher.
    A pity about UCSB..Marty made the most out of what he had...and although I have never seen him coaching...he would get something out of you...that is what you want...west coast is obviously nice...but you are not there to look at the scenery! Good Luck!
     
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    Oregon has a player from Sydney, Australia. Aaron Clissold. I think he was ranked in the top 100 in Australia. I saw he got double baggled in a match playing at #6 singles...
     
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    Yes yes,,,,,,and what about all those HOT girls there ????? hummmmmmmmmmm:):)
     
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    I know alot of guys who have been/are currently in college at the moment, so I'm pretty much set. My coach went to college, and alot of other coaches also went who I work with so I have had long discussions with them over where I should go. My ranking has been slipping a bit as of late, stupid year 12, but I'm trying my best to atleast maintain the 110-130 mark at the moment. I haven't travelled this year yet and its killing me inside.
    Aaron is one of my good mates, and he was about 100 in Aus. He's been persuading me to come to Oregon but I'm just really unsure about everything at the moment. And yeah he lost 0-0 against UCSB, he said to me "man, all i could think about was the ocean, and the unbelievable attractive chicks around and all of sudden i had lost" hahaha.
     
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    How is it the fourth if its behind Berkeley, LA, SD, and Davis??
     
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    Academically speaking, in terms of reputation (and remember, the way America views a school is not necessarily the way that school is viewed by an international audience); Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Loyola Marymount, Oregon and Middle Tennessee tied.

    Conference-wise, you've got a real spread. I'm not an expert in that department but if I had to rank them I'd say it'd be almost a tie at the top between the the Pac-10 (Oregon) and the SEC (Vanderbilt) then the Big Ten (Northwestern), a drop back to the WCC (Loyola) with the Sunbelt (Middle Tenn) last.

    In terms of coaches, Brad Sceney at Loyola is an Australian (from Melbourne) and so is David McNamara at Middle Tennessee (they've also got a couple of Aussies on the roster).

    Personally, unless I had a resume that demanded attention by the other schools, I'd be targetting Sceney and McNamara first. They're Aussies so, when they tell you something, you'll be in no doubts as to what they mean. Also, they'll still have contacts in Australia which means it will be a lot easier for them to check out your resume. Unlike most all American coaches they will know someone who knows you, has seen you play and/or might even have played against you.
     
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    I got an email from UCSB, expressing there interest now.

    It's all very exciting!
     
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    Are they offering you anything more than just interest? Either way, good luck with that one mate.
     
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    Well, if this is any indication on where UCSB is on the tennis totem pole, Bijan Hejazi, who was their number 1 player, now is the number 6 player for Cal. Here's how he did recently against Stanford (3rd post in thread):

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=323256
     
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    Just general interest at the moment, he's email was very long but I don't think its the best idea if I share what was in the email. But he just asked for SAT results and School Reports and ect.

    Where would you choose? Vandy or UCSB?
     
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    Definitely pick Vandy. UCSB's tennis program isnt funded very well, so they have a limited squad, which means a lot of guys get cut
     
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    ucsd could easily be a top school if they were div 1. weird how great weather places have weaker tennis. maybe too laid back. also UCSB is a nice place. lots of parties but that's not all.
     
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  30. AndrewD

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    No, absolutely don't give out any details. I was just curious to know if it was an offer (partial or full) or just an inquiry.

    Vanderbilt is the higher rated university both in the States and internationally. Academically and in terms of prestige it's the one I'd pick in a heartbeat. Also, the student population is a third the size of UCSB, which will be beneficial in terms of academics.

    In terms of tennis, Bobby Reynolds went there, that's all I know. The Southeastern (Vanderbilt) conference is a lot tougher than the Big West (UCSB) and would involve travel to more interesting places.

    The only other thing I'd say is, don't rate UCSB higher because it's in California and Vanderbilt is in Tennessee. The South is a great part of America, incredibly interesting, lots to see, a lot more easy-going (speaking as an Australian) than the West or East Coast and the people are very welcoming. Absolutely not the way it's presented on tv.

    Are you playing Pennant with any club in Melbourne?
     
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    Yeah, for sure I am not writing off any of the schools I am talking to at the moment, and i know it is going to come down to a f*cking tough decision to choose where I want to go. It will probably be one of the hardest decisions I have had to make in a while.

    Yeah, I am playing pennant. The whole system has changed this year though. State grade now goes from september through to november and grade 1 runs through the year, which has made grade 1 alot tougher. I am playing grade 1 with liston at the moment, had a win last week, and am playing state grade later in the year, hopefully as much as I can because of exams aswell.

    January 2011 is approaching fast, I'm very excited!
     
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    No, it's the coaches.

    Both the men's and women's program need new coaches!
     
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    I think Marty Davis could be quite a good coach. He was ranked inside the top 75 (I think) in the world and has made a few semis of grand slam doubles.

    Sure, this doesn't always equate do being a good coach but for sure he would have more experience than most other coaches going around.

    Thats just my opinion though.
     
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    May I ask what you are hoping to accomplish during your undergrad years?

    Not just about tennis but everything else. What kind of person do you see yourself becoming in 4-5 years?

    The environment, the people, everything will help shape you into the person that you want to be but first you need some inkling as to what kind of person you want to be.
     
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    I would like to think that I could have a decent crack at being a professional in 4 years or so. But in the meantime, I would like to grow as a person and i think college is the best option.

    I am a very social person and I know how to work hard, wether it be at school or on the court, but also I love to have a good time. To pretty much put it simple, I dont mind the odd party.

    But I also know how to work, and that school should come first.

    Does that answer your question?
     
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    I've never been coached by Marty but I know he is a great guy (his wife plays at our club) and have heard good things about his coaching. Wayne Bryan is a friend of his (I think he played for UCSB), and I've seen him at some of the matches. Marty's been snakebit the past few years with injuries but the program is strong.

    UCSB has had the reputation of a "Party" school every since Playboy rated it as the best place to go for Halloween decades ago. That's really not a fair assessment as there are bigger "party" schools within a few hours of it. It's a college campus and a beachside one at that, so it definitely has its share of parties and it's easily one of the best "visual" campuses on the planet. Come visit on a warm sunny day (most every day) and you will know what I mean.

    That being said it is a great academic school also. I'm a dentist and a few of my colleagues went there for undergrad and a few physician patients of mine did as well. To be honest, I think it is the best of both worlds. You can get what you want from it. You want to learn and its there for you. It has a strong enough tennis program that if you are good enough to make the team, you'll improve there as well. The party and visual atmosphere is icing on the cake.

    -Robert
     
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    They gave Angela Davis a lifetime achievement award for excellence; When i asked the coach about the celebration, he had absolutely no idea why anyone would have a "problem" with others expressing "different" points of view.

    So I hope that tells you something, If it doesn't look her up.
     
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    if you go to UCSB don't go too overboard with the parties/drinking. But really both Vandy and SB are fine choices. UCs are facing budget cuts so check out that if you have to pay a lot.
    The UCSD coaches seemed ok, not sure about the women's. they could probably do more but limited by not being div 1 and no scholarships that I know of.
     
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    what about northwestern compared to vandy and ucsb?
     
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    A decent crack at becoming pro? Are you sure about that?
    Only like .00001% of top ncaa players even make the top 100 on the atp tour. Maybe playing futures events for measly money but I doubt you would crack the top 200 atp tour. don't mean to offend but thats reality. You should choose Vandy, its almost an ivy league school and UCSB is no where in the same league academically as Vandy. You should use tennis as a way to get a ivy league education and a very nice prestigious job in something like investment banking or finance after you graduate.
     
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    Northwestern is in the same academic league as Vanderbilt. Very selective, very good school academically, great reputation. [Note: Actually, in the oft-cited US News and World Report rankings, Northwestern is ranked 12th and Vanderbilt 17th among American Universities. I don't take such rankings as definitive proof of anything, and I would say they are equal academically. I just cite the rankings to show that they are both highly ranked and highly regarded.]

    Northwestern is located in Evanston, Illinois, the first suburb north of Chicago, bordering Lake Michigan (it's not the ocean, but it's still a great view). Evanston is a beautiful, diverse suburb and all of Chicago is easily accesible by train.

    But, Northwestern is much further north than Vanderbilt and it will be much colder in the winter. Both are located in or near fairly large cities, though Chicago metro area is considerably larger than Nashville metro area.

    Northwestern has about 8,500 undergraduates (not that big) and about 18,500 students overall spread between the Evanston campus (where all the undergraduates are) and the downtown Chicago campus (some, but not all, of the professional schools).

    Northwestern is a member of the Big 10 conference, which is a very good tennis conference, though not as tough top to bottom as the SEC.

    It's a great place. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
     
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    Thanks for the useful advice mate.

    Maybe in future you shouldn't make assesments about someones playing abilities before seeing them play.

    Why do you have to put me down for having a dream and wanting to make it a reality?

    That's just silly, and really offensive.
     
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    hey bluetrain,

    thanks for the info, i appreciate it.

    northwestern looks like a fantastic place, but I have one concern, and that is the cold.

    The weather in Melbourne in winter is similar to Southern California, it rarely drops below 14 degrees or so, which is about 60 farenheit i think.

    I think I would struggle to cope with freezing, snow storms. But then again the prospect of living in such an amazing city as Chicago is such a massive plus.

    I really do not know at the moment, I change my mind everyday...
     
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    Well, no matter what you decide, best of luck. You can't beat Southern California weather, no question. There's no way around it, Northwestern will be pretty cold for a part of the year. But, like most northern schools in the US, Northwestern has great indoor tennis facilities.

    How great to have such an opportunity. I was excited to get to leave Minnesota and go to Northwestern for college, and the trip is only about 8 hours by car.

    Getting to go thousands of miles and to another country, must be incredibly exciting (and a little scary)

    Interesting that the three schools you mentioned UCSB, Vanderbilt, Northwestern are located within three distinct regions of the U.S., all of which will offer a different "take" on what it's like to live in the U.S. But, as an athlete, you'll get to travel all around.

    There have been other Australian athletes at Northwestern. Hannah Nielsen (from Adelaide), a top lacrosse player (who graduated a couple years ago), helped the women's lacrosse team win NCAA titles.

    Again, best of luck.
     
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    Yeah, I tried to get a few different schools from a few different areas in the U.S, but once again I think any of them would be good and I just can't wait.

    I am a little bit nervous, but also extremely excited about the prospect of moving to a whole new country by myself and meeting new people, seeing new things and having a bit of fun while playing the sport that I love and getting a good education!!

    Thanks alot for the help again.

    One more question, when did you graduate? and what did you major in?
     
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    I graduated in 1996 (I know, I'm old) and majored in Social Policy, which was basically a liberal arts major with a lot of coursework in economics, political science, and sociology. After I graduated, I worked for a few years, and then went to law school.
     
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    I wouldn't say old haha.
    But thanks for the advice, obviously you are a very smart guy!
     
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    If you are good enough academically to go to Northwestern and Vanderbilt, you might also consider Rice University in Houston, Texas. Traditionally, one of the top 5 or 10 colleges for tennis, but not as strong now as they used to be, so you might have a chance to play there (but did win their conference championship and will play in the NCAA tournament). Rated in the top schools for student happiness (4th if I remember right).
     
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    pricey,

    Turn it up mate LOL. I love Melbourne more than the next bloke and I lived there for 35 years but it sure does go below 14 degrees a hell of a lot of the time and that's not counting that bloody wind chill factor.

    Regardless, weather is a really important issue. Also, you need to think about what happens at somewhere like Northwestern when it snows. Do they have indoor facilities? Do you even want to practise indoors when you play outdoors 99% of the time? Little things, but they do add up and shouldn't be overlooked.
    Tennessee is a lot more like our climate but doesn't have that mad spike up into the 30's and low 40's.

    When do you need to make a decision by ?
     
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    haha yeah, okay maybe i was a bit dodgy with my weather, but i rarely drops below 12 during the day these days.

    But yes, Northwestern do train indoors and have (according to my mate who plays for middle tennessee and played against northwestern this season) a awesome indoor facility. And I think I would be comfortable training indoors, not saying that I am writing everything else off, but just saying that it doesnt bother me a whole deal to be training indoors or not.

    umm, I still have a little while to make my decision, but time is closing fast and I am literally so unsure. One hour its here, next here, next there.

    It's crazy
     
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