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  1. jazar

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    Hit the 300 mark today. Hoping to get to 400 by the end of the tournament. Have 9 days left to do 100 rackets. As long as the Bryan Brothers stay in I have a chance.
     
  2. asiank90

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    Does anyone know if/when genesis strings will be available in UK?

    Thanks
     
  3. Meaghan

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    Ha ha its because the bc's are better than the tgk's :)
     
  4. Dags

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    How long have you played with them now? And what was your previous best with another racquet? Any temptation to stray yet?

    Ross, you've hit with one too, haven't you? How did you feel? Have they tempted you away from your racqueteering? Or was it simply another stick that was missing that elusive something?
     
  5. Dags

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    I don't think I've strung that many racquets ever. I can't decide if I see you as an inspiration or a masochist.
     
  6. Dave M

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    Because you read in on here too often!
    They are different, I've got a pair of "microgel" prestige midplus tgks, some original donnay pro ones and they're closer than the bast cores, it's ever so different to anything else (certainly current) but does require an adjustment to get used to its ways.
     
  7. Meaghan

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    Ross had mine for a bit and liked it but he's a bab man at the mo!

    As for how long, since October last year I think. I wont be going anywhere else this is exactly what Im looking for, its just a matter of getting the spec right.

    I had a custom Vantage which I loved, I wanted something inbetween the kps88 and Ozone Pro Tour, both superb rackets, one S&V, the other baseline, the Vt seemed to fit both needs. The other racket was a dunlop revelation superlong which along with a couple of older heads (pt600, Austrian Graphite pro and comfort edge) I found was the closest in feel for a modern racket.

    Dave is right tho, they are different than anything out there today.

    Does anything take my fancy, of course, the Donnays look great, and I may pick up the platinum or gold or.......:)
     
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    Anyone know which way Djoko-DelPo will go? Djoko looks sharp now and I wonder if DelPo will get into the groove soon. Exciting. Shame it's only 3R...
     
  9. Ash_Smith

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    Yup! Having been through a couple of the previous speed models (MP and Pro) and hated them both I was understandably dubious when 2 IG Speed 300's landed on my doorstep. However, having used them for a couple of months or thereabouts I am definately a convert. Have been toying with the idea of leading them up a touch, but actually I'm thinking I won't bother now as I am enjoying them stock, which is weird as they are not really my spec at all (or at least similar to the spec I have always played in the past).

    Just got to find the right string for them now. SPPP would probably look cool as there are orange flashes on frame, or maybe SPPP and Black VS would look tasty!

    Cheers
     
  10. DukeLit

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    Hi folks! I posted a few weeks back about looking for some hitting partners this summer in London. I've been here for just over a week now and I'm finally feeling settled enough to miss tennis. I'm based in Stoke Newington but I'll happily hit anywhere in the city and I'm a US 4.5/5.0 player. Feel free to shoot me an email if you're in the city!
    -Justin
     
  11. Aggro

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    Hi guys work related question (boring i know!)

    My level 3 is finishing in august - had my feedback from my tutors and I'm doing well, so thats all good!

    I'm thinking about jobs afterwards and possibly applying to some tennis clubs in the local area or center's like david lloyd, esporta etc etc.

    I know this answer may differ obviously depending on experience, area, how many hours available etc etc.

    Q - How much per month would a level 3 coach be looking to make on average?

    Trying to do projections with my current establishment and numbers aren't looking great as im now at the time of my life where i need to be saving for big things such as house/car !!

    Any input would be fantastic.

    If you want to send a more personal message and are more comfortable emailing me my email is: joerevelle@gmail.com

    Thanks guys,

    Joe

    EDIT: Sorry - reason for asking is that i've been looking at the lta website for jobs and an esporta one came up in oxfordshire at a club where 3 of my level 3 coaches work and the hours are 20 - 30 per week and £25 per hour average - thats more than i make in a month !! even with travelling i would be 3x more than normal
     
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  12. Marcus

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    guys....

    I've sold a few Pro Staff 88's on here !!

    Anyone want to sell me one back ?

    mslittler@aol.com

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  13. Ash_Smith

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    Got to bear in mind that Esporta coaches pay a monthly rent to the club though Joe and their hourly rate is 50% gross pro-rata. In other words, they get 50% gross of the income from the groups they run, so if you get 10 people paying £5 each for an hours group coaching you get £25. If you get 3 people, you get £7.50! Don't know what the rent at The Oxfordshire is, but I know The Hampshire club was around £600 per month and it's bigger so I would guess the Oxfordshire would be around £300 - £400 per month.

    EDIT TO ADD...
    Esporta have just been bought out by the Virgin group, so their whole racquets model may change in the near future anyway. Will try to find out more later.



    Lloyd's do it differently in that you pay your "rent" by way of free hours to the club (around 8 per week for a full time pro) and then you earn the full hit for your private lessons.

    As for what a lvl 3 should earn, it really depends on the market you're in! In a commercial club in an affluent area you can charge a lot more - I know Lvl 3's in some London Lloyd's clubs who are charging £40+ per hour for a private lesson. I charge £30 where I am (I am well worth it :) ) but I have a friend who charges £20 where he works (and he is an excellent coach) because that's all market forces will allow.

    When I first started coaching I was asking the clubs I worked for around £15-£20 per hour if the club wanted to pay me and take the revenue themselves. Other clubs, I took all the risk and took all the revenue!

    I know that doesn't help your maths much, but it might give you an idea!

    Cheers
     
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  14. Dave M

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    I did all my training at the local esporta for the bits in between the course dates. As an example of how they were then the coaches had to do the Sat am group sessions FOC which IIRC was about 4/5 hours per week then they were given a cut of the lessons they gave for the rest of it.I think it was a bit more than 50% but not a lot. The real money was made b the racquets manager who also took a cut (rumour was sometimes offficially sometimes not) on everyones lessons as well as his annual income and private lessons.That or own your own indoor facility!
     
  15. jazar

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    We hit the 3000 mark today. I've done 335. Two each for the Bryan brothers for practice tomorrow, followed by at least another one each for their match at 11. Forgot to mention; Jamie Murray came in the other day, went up to him and asked him for a photo, then gave him the camera!
     
  16. Ross K

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    jazar,

    OMG... 3000! :eek: ... I'd imagine you'll never want to string another frame ever again after this monumental turnover?... BTW, so how's it going with getting a date/beer in with Wozi and the others!?:)

    R
     
  17. Dave M

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    Nice!!:)
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  18. jazar

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    She's not using the official stringing service. We suspect she is with either **** or Yonex. No luck with the other hot women; they tend to send their coaches in instead.

    Here are some actual conversations from the stringing room today:

    Fan: Who are you stringing for?
    Me: Jamie Murray.
    Fan: Andy Murray?
    Me: No, Jamie Murray.
    Fan: Who's that then?
    Me: It's Andy's brother.
    Fan: Is he playing the juniors then?
    Me: No, mixed doubles.
    Fan: Are you the Murray family's personal stringer?

    Coach: I have two rackets I need to get strung.
    Reception: Ok, when do you need them?
    Coach: She plays in half an hour at 4.30.
    Reception: Ok, but it's actually 4.20 now.

    Passed 350 rackets today. Expecting at least 6 from the Bryan's tomorrow. Had a chat with them earlier today. They asked me how my fingers were, whether their rackets were easy to string and how long they take me. Really nice lads.
     
  19. Meaghan

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    Doesn't Murray do your head in. Didn't deserve to win with his moaning. He does lose his head and it pisses me off that im supporting him. I mean what was going on first set last night did he suddenly say to himself at 5-0 down....actually my ankle doesn't hurt?? Then up in the second with aggressive tennis then starts plodding it back and loses the set. Same today he seemed to want to hit a winner from 3ft outa court and leave the mid court ball and paddle it back.
    Murray = frustration
     
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    Hi forthegame. I had a hit with Naiktha at christmas when she was home. Really lovely kid with a great attitude, and gets total commitment and support from her dad. She wont go far wrong and has a lot of quality.
     
  22. prostaff junkie

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    I also read this. Nothing wrong with a bit of LTA bashing, they deserve everything they get.

    The last 3 top British men (Henman, Rusedski (British lol) and Andy Murray) have not come through the LTA coaching ranks as youngsters.

    It's probably the best thing that could happen to her. Hopefully she'll remember her roots when/if she hits the top.
     
  23. Ash_Smith

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    ^^^ There isn't enough bandwidth on the internet for me to get started on the LTA!!!
     
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    I have the picture, but it's not good

    regards

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    I always thought Henman was a product of the LTA... He seemed to be on good terms with them so assumed he had their support.
     
  26. Ash_Smith

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    Tim played most of his junior tennis at Reed's school, where he was part of the David Lloyd Academy squad.
     
  27. forthegame

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    DL?? Surprised. Never heard of Reed's school, is that a private sports enterprise or a regular school?
    If his roots were so ordinary then I have a lot of (new) respect for what he achieved.
     
  28. Ash_Smith

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    Reed's is a private school in surrey- not exactly ordinary,! David Lloyd still operates the academy there, although he no longer owns the leisure clubs, he has four academies around the uk (that is, they carry his name).
     
  29. Meaghan

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    Just to show how much i mix with the rich and famous.......just saw colleen rooney getting into her white land rover at her mums! Saw the UG that is Wayne there the other day. Thats as good as it gets here in the north :)
     
  30. forthegame

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    UG??.......
     
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    Urbane gentleman, ugly git...take your pick....
     
  32. Meaghan

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    Yeah UG thats the limit of his vocabulary......leave him alone i hear you say and i do admire his footballing skills but its the rest of his immature behaviour i dislike.
     
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    RD-7 String Set-up

    Ross,

    Just been reading your old RD-7 thread.

    What was your string set-up you went for in the end? Did you drop the X's 5%?

    My mate's just given me his RD-7 to string, only got some syn gut at the moment so that's what he's getting, would be interested to know what you put into yours?

    Also read varying reports about max safe tension for this frame, looks like its not a good idea to go above 60lbs..........

    Any thoughts?
     
  34. forthegame

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    What does UG mean? Can't figure that one out...
     
  35. jazar

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    After that incident he always sent someone else in the drop off and pick up his rackets.
     
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    It's just a shame that these people are so well paid and looked up to for mere footballing skills, it seems this often puts them/their lives in a situation where they just don't mature and are forever the people they were at 16 because the world makes allowances due to their on pitch ability.
     
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    So i bought some alu power fluoro from the bay and it arrived today. The plastic package has chinese stickers on the back and the string itself is a bit translucent, sound fake? :(
     
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    Very nice Jazar!

    You do look and sound the part, ever considered TV punditry? :)
     
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    It's a shame but football is just a kid's game and a kid's culture these days.
     
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    Dont get me wrong guys, its hard to dislike either Schiavone or Li or other recent slam finalists like Zvonereva ,but surely this is the weakest ever era in the history of womens pro tennis. A disgrace.
     
  42. Ash_Smith

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    I think it's been a week era for womens tennis for a while! Clijsters or Henin should have dominated womens tennis, but due to injuries, babies, retirements and so on neither have been fully fit/commited to the tour for a while and perhaps havent fulfilled their full potential?

    What sickens me the most is that the Williams sisters can play 5 times a year and still win comfortably, no other female players have stepped up to the plate - Maybe Na Li is the one to do so!

    Cheers
     
  43. forthegame

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    Really happy that Li won! She's played very well. Don't care what era people say it is but the world's best (minus injured certain superstars who have not won in Paris for eons) were present and Li Na overcame to join the pantheon of Grand Slam champions!
     
  44. forthegame

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    Racquet mods: weight v balance

    Taken off my replacement grip and put on 2 overgrips - bevels feel too prominent but it's brought my total weight down to 321g. I have a tournament tomorrow so I hope it's not too drastic a move!

    Thinking, now that I've removed the grip, I'v effectively changed the balance, right? It's going to be head-heavier, how does that affect power and swingability?

    More HL means more whippiness right? What effect does that have on power?

    Thanks all.
     
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    It's a shame no British channel came to interview me.

    I was on Chatrier for a couple of games of the women's final and was pretty underwhelmed with the quality of the match. It looked better on TV. Li deserved to win. Schiavone got lucky last year that the occasion got the better of her opponent.

    Sat in the player's box for the men's doubles final. Had a player on either side, but was in Cabal and Schwank's box.
     
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    I had a quick hit with the new Speed Pro today -- the 16x19 version that isnt for sale on TW. I was quite impressed. The previous racket did nothing for me at all but this one felt solid, powerful, moved quickly though the air and had some real feel. Has anyone else here hit with it?

    cc
     
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    I know that Schiavone looks a bit ragged but I like the way she gets up and down the court and gives it everything. I also like the way she takes the ball on with a lot of spin on her one-hander. So few one-handers in either the mens' or womens' game play with that much spin.

    But I was pleased for Li Na. She came pretty close in Australia and now has shown that it wasnt a fluke.

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  48. forthegame

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    321g not bad at all. Didn't feel hindered in anyway. Very stable. Need to work on my legs, they let me down not the racquet, LOL!

    You mean the Innegra Speed 300? I hit with it and I was mighty impressed!
     
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    So, Roland Garros is finally over :( Over 3,500 rackets were strung and my total was 413. I now have six days off before starting at Wimbledon this coming Sunday.
     
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    I am now in sunny Cannes to hit the beach for a few days.
     

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