undefeated in singles and it's not a good thing

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  1. Rickson

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    I have yet to drop a set this year. I've played over 200 sets against 10 opponents and it's got me discouraged. Although I'm the best in my small community of tennis friends, I fear I'm not improving much because of the low level of competition. The best opponent this year has been a doctor friend of mine who also doesn't lose to the 9 others, but I don't get to play him often. Should I keep playing these guys and hope they keep improving or should I look for better competition? Sometimes dominating your friends isn't a good thing.
     
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  2. Exile

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    You could take one under your wing and train them until you have a good rival for competition. There's no one better for you to train against unless it's yourself.
     
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  3. goober

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    drop your tennis friends- not completely but seriously I would have dropped them along time ago if you want to get better. You need real competition in the form of leagues and tournaments. Playing the same dudes over and over again and dominating them is not going to help you much.
     
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  4. Rickson

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    That's exactly my point. I dominate them yet my forehands haven't gotten faster, my backhands haven't been piercing, and serves aren't hitting the fence any higher. The only improvement I've had this year has been on my volleys and I owe that to hitting deeper approach shots. I want to get better and if that means taking a few losses so be it, but I don't have time for league and tournament play because I work most weekends. Where am I gonna find some tough competition without joining a league?
     
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  5. BadTemper

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    play the line game, only go for the lines!! sometimes when I am way up against my friends i try and paint the lines or only hit in the service boxes from the base line with massive spin.
    Or, where do you live?? maybe some one on here will challenge you.
     
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  6. goober

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    I play in several leagues that meet weeknights.

    You could try joining a club. Usually they will have a matching service for play basically any day you want.

    Go take some clnics/classes for 3.5-4.0 level players and try meet somebody there.

    You could always try the internet. I met a couple of 4.5 players this way that live 15 mintues from me (as well as some not so great players).
     
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  7. Rickson

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    I practiced with king bugsy last year and he was a lot better than I was so I didn't dare challenge him to a match. This year I'd give him a much better match if we played, but unfortunately, king bugsy has moved so we haven't been able to play since that day of practice. I'd play anyone who lives in the NYC or Long Island area from these boards, but there aren't that many people from the tri state area who post here.
     
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  8. LoveThisGame

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    You're not in the boonies, so there has to be opponents. Contact some club pros located within reasonable distance from you in order to get names. Some creativity and networking for a short time should yield desirable opponents.
     
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  9. KingBugsy

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    Who dare summon KING BUGSY! You Rickson dare awaken me from my slumber!

    LOL.

    Dude, we should try and get together. Do you still have me email? I will warn you that I have gone up a level or two since we last played...
     
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    Maybe after dropping 20 sets each against you, these guys are feeling a bit defeated.
     
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    Ah, let the headgames begin.....;)
     
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  12. goober

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    Yah but Rickson has learned a couple tricks from Raul.
     
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  13. raftermania

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    Rickson, you should play some soccer against Raul. I have a feeling he's quite good at it.
     
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  14. FiveO

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    Take some of the "school" with you, but try to find a bigger, deeper pond.
     
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    get into USTA/official tournaments
     
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  16. FiveO

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    ...one of the bigger, deeper ponds.
     
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  17. kevhen

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    Work on adding new shots like one-handed backhand slice (or two hander if you slice already). Work on getting to net with approach shots and hitting volley winners. Play left-handed if you have to. Work on your weaker side, or running around shots and going for winners. It is tough to improve when playing weaker players, I have been in the same boat for many years but have tried to play tournaments and get into leagues where I can play equals or even superior players to see what I need to work on. You can always improve your serve by practicing on your own if you are getting bored of winning. Work on hitting slice, topspin, and flat and being able to place the ball and even move around the location from where you serve from. Keep pushing yourself to improve and maybe your partners will eventually catch up.
     
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  18. Geezer Guy

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    Rickson, You're definately playing beneath you. While it may help the game of your opponents, and it may be good for your ego, it's not good for your game. You can continue to play your friends "for fun", but if you want to improve you need to play people that can beat you.

    That King Bugsy fellow (or whatever) is just what you need.
     
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  19. PM_

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    You're joking, right?
    Join a bigger community and start playing guys who should whoop your arse.:confused: :mrgreen:
     
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    I too, would be undefeated if I played my friends moms
     
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  21. gscone

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    Where are you playing these days? Hopefully not at RTP :D

    Haven't hit in some time due to business travel oversea's but I'd love to hit the court with you.
     
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  22. Dedans Penthouse

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    [size=+1]Gee, why mess with a good thing?
    What's a couple of hundred sets here or there?
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    It's simple. It's called development. This game of tennis is no different than any other sport and/or endeavor. It's made up of levels.....MANY levels. Recall the "Build the Worst Pro vs. 5.0 thread???...You thought that an amalgamation of a pro's worst traits (Roddick's movement, Santoro's forehand) would take a beating from a 5.0 player? Look, we've been down that rediculous road and I'm telling you again: the WORST thing these guys have going for them is still WORLDS above what the "average" 5.0 player can ever hope to attain skill-wise, let alone the 3.0-4.5 group. But, that aside:

    --Does a boxer go straight from the "G.G." to a title bout? No.

    --Does a "real" musican REFUSE to check his/her ego "at the door" and "play up" with better talent in order to develop his/her chops, i.e. "to grow?" No.

    --Does a ballplayer go from "the bushes" straight into the big ballpark on 161St. and River Ave. in the Bronx? No.

    They all have one thing in common: recognizing the need (and more importantly) the desire to improve; to develop.

    Numbers don't mean squat because what they're measured against is relative. In 1916, Georgia Tech beat a team (Cumberland) in football by the score of 220-0. Are they the greatest team of all-time? Not by a long shot.

    Put it this way; imagine you're standing in the middle of some Sports Hall of Fame and looking up into the rafters, you see the following banners hanging:

    [size=+2]1972 NFL Miami Dolphins 17-0[/size]
    [size=+2]2003-Present U.S.C. Trojans 32-0[/size]
    [size=+2]1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers 33-0[/size]
    [size=+2]1953-57 Oklahoma Sooners 47-0[/size]
    [size=+2]1969-69 Linda Lovelace 69-0[/size]
    [size=+2]1971-74 U.C.L.A. Bruins 88-0[/size]
    [size=+3]2005-2005 Rickson 200+ - 0[/size][/size]

    Now, would you really want to explain to Larry Csonka, Reggie Bush, Elgin Baylor, Tommy McDonald, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Walton and John Wooden just what in hell is your banner doing hanging up there with the others?? You know the answer. Time to go on a "road-trip" of sorts. Expand your horizons. Your present pond is a puddle....go fishin' for some "comp."
     
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  23. Rickson

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    OK, but don't cancel this time. ;)
     
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    I think Linda Lovelace went further than any of these other teams and explored totally new territory. Her accomplishments will be very hard to ever compare against.

    The Trojans come right behind her in my opinion.
     
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  25. Rickson

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    Penthouse, I'm not gonna disagree, but when your time is limited and the Rauls of this world are the only accessible competition, what do you do? I'll look around and Bugsy, I'm gonna email you so get ready to travel.
     
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  26. Dedans Penthouse

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    If you can't get that mountain to you, you've got to find a way to get to the mountain.

    Long Island is home to a slew of players. I've got to think that through the help of the U.S.T.A. or some Parks & Rec. Dept. of local townships, that you'd be able to find out where some elevated action is at.

    1. Check into some local club offering a "open house" or some Saturday night "singles" tennis event. Indoor tennis clubs that "book" time to the public usually have "looking for a game?" bulletin board messages posted.
    2. On this board you always see "Am traveling to So-and-So City on Vacation--any players from there?" -- do one for your neck of the woods.
    3. Would seriously suggest joining the U.S.T.A. and get into local tournaments. There are a number out at Westbury/Jerrico run by a local guy named Ron Rebheun. Check the U.S.T.A. Eastern Section/Southern under "tournaments"
    4. Ask a local pro "where to go" for a game (public parks, etc.).
    The above will allow you to "network" to meet new (and improved) players.
     
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  27. Bungalo Bill

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    Rickson,

    Quit trying to locate all the 2.0 players in your area. It is time to step it up. I can buy that you like smashing all those short balls, but geez man, it is time to play someone at your level!
     
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  28. gscone

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    That won't happen again.. :)
     
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    Penthouse, thanks for the advice. I'll look into it because I'd rather lose here and there and improve than always win and plateau.
     
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  30. gscone

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    Are u playing indoors and what level are you at?
     
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  31. kevhen

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    Talk to all the clubs around and ask them if they need subs for leagues and then fill in when they need you if you can't afford to join a club.
     
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  32. Rickson

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    Bugsy's definitely a solid fundamental player, but I've become so unorthodox since I practiced with him last that a match, if we ever get to play, would be very interesting. Fundamentals vs. unorthodox, let's get it on, Bugsy!
     
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  33. KingBugsy

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    Uh oh... starting to sound like a WWF match. In which case I would definately not challenge Rickson! As long as we are seperated by a net I feel safe however...

    Anyway... hmmm... why have you gone the "unorthodox" method? With so many fundamentals being preached here by the likes of BB and others, I would have thought you would be going for an Agassi type form! A solid fundamental game will be better in the long run I believe. The only way to escape that long and endless wasteland at the 3.5 plateau.

    I have been working hard on the fundamentals since we last played... topspin FH-BH, set postion, contact point, footwork... etc. I still believe that solid fundamentals is the gateway to playing excellent tennis, and ultimately climbing the ranks. I have finally starting to reap the rewards of forging forward with trying to build a good technique. I have been beating the "unorthodox" guys now a lot more frequently... I am starting to eat those patty-cake floating serves for lunch now. Feels good. Still have a ways to go, and am working on it.

    Let's try and hook up and get a good work out in! :)
     
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  34. Rickson

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    End my streak, if you dare! scanscape@yahoo.com
    Looking forward to it and let's meet up soon, Bugs.
     
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  35. Bungalo Bill

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    I have never laughed so hard....Hilarious!

    Dedan must be a crazy Brit (or pretty darn close) with that sense of humor. :D

    ...2005-2005 Rickson 200+ - 0...

    That is hilarious!!!
     
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  36. Bungalo Bill

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    Wouldn't it be funny if Rickson and KingBugsy were the same person?
     
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  37. Rickson

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    Bill! My name is not Kana!
     
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  38. Bungalo Bill

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    lol, fair enough.
     
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  39. Rabbit

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    Dedans...you're in the NYC area, aren't you?
     
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  40. Dedans Penthouse

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    Rabbit: Yep. Scarsdale.

    A village with more whining SUV-drivin' while cell-phone gabbin' women (and whinny men) than you can shake a stick at.
     
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  41. mark1

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    ya never answered rickson...what level do you play at?
     
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  42. Rickson

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    I don't know, but I beat a guy last year in the one set we played who plays in a 3.5 league, 6-3, and I've improved a lot since then.
     
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    I think young Rickson should inquire as to a location where he and Dedans could engage in a contest then. Rickson could get a true measure of his talent by playing somone who is advanced in the rankings.

    And we could all get one of the best threads of the month...nay year....nay decade...dare I say it EVER! from Dedans. :)
     
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