Unintentional Junk Balling

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  1. slowfox

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    At what level does the unintentional junk balls stop (or perhaps just taper off)? I don't mind crafty opponents who deliberately hit junk. That may be frustrating but still fun to try and figure out. It's the players who accidentally do it that just frustrates me. I can't anticipate or predict at all.

    I spent a set today just reacting to stuff. Court positioning was useless. Anticipation, baaah. Dying quails galore. I guess I should've known it would be that kind of day. My partner was spraying rally starters everywhere during our warm up.

    Just venting. Thanks for listening. :neutral:
     
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  2. Fusker

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    What do you mean by accidental junk balls? Like guys framing forehands that turn into nasty topspin lobs? Or the serve that gets stuck on the strings until the frame hits it, creating the nastiest slice serve ever?

    If that's the kind of thing you're talking about, I've never seen more than a few of those a match. It would be crazy to imagine dealing with much more than that.
     
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  3. kopfan

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    When 2 different level hitters are hitting. One keep playing at his/her level, the lower level person will start spraying junk ball as he/her just could not catch up the rally.
     
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  4. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I don't know if unintentional junk balling can taper off. I mean, what do you say when the opponent frames a big swing? The swing indicate a deep/spinny shot, but because it's a framed shot, it barely passes the net. Now what?

    Spraying rally starters is a no no though.

    1) It's a dick move
    2) You shouldn't be wasting your court time with people that can't even control a feed.
     
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  5. Ducker

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    What you described is the worst thing. Im not sure what to say other than ive felt your pain a few times before. Try to avoid practicing or even playing with a much lower level players for this reason. Its not good practice for yourself because (most)everything they hit is random/lucky.

    Its easy to beat them just serve out your end easily since they shouldnt be able to handle your serving because you at another level. when they serve get a solid return and wait for them to gift you.

    It may not be fun but you will be able to move on quickly.
     
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  6. Hi I'm Ray

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    Unintentional junk balling starts to drop off around 4.0, although there is still a ton of UE's.
     
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  7. slowfox

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    Yeah, stuff like that. Plus mishits that land in. Like Ducker said too - all that random, lucky stuff. Tough to anticipate.
     
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  8. marosmith

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    The unintentional short angle miss hit which usually occurs after a full swing and- which is impossible to read, are the bane of my existence.
     
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  9. Fusker

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    Sure, but good practice nonetheless. No matter what level you're at, you're going to get some of those, or bad bounces... you name it. What it does do is exposes any sloppiness or laziness with your feet and movement. That corkscrew forehand they hit is returnable if you keep your feet moving and don't get lazy. One of the courts I hit on a ball machine recently had a dead spot on the court and the machine itself would throw the occasional knuckleball. It really exposed when I got my feet set too early.

    Now, a couple hours of that might get old... :)
     
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  10. Buford T Justice

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    If this "lucky, random" stuff happens over and over again....It cant be luck!

    I say this to a tennis buddy of mine (and my doubles partner in the league).

    When I play him in singles (he is an extremely precise player...relies on the other players UEs and his ability to hit balls that are very close to the lines), I always joke that, after the first 25 balls that skid off the line, that it cant be luck as its happened too many times in a row!
     
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  11. Larrysümmers

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    id work on beating this guy before worrying about "higher levels"
     
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  12. Anaconda

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    If they are framing the ball/mistiming, then the best thing to do is play consistent; there's only a certain amount of consistent shots they can make if they are actually mis-timing the ball. If you're playing someone who just gets lucky then his luck will end eventually. You shouldn't have to anticipate from the back court unless you're playing an absolute beast and you're giving him sitters. Especially on junk balls. Find his patterns then go from there.
     
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  13. luvforty

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    this.

    accidental junk is a result of flipping.... sometimes it can be frustrating as he can flip a few winners in a row.... but that luck only runs so far.
     
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  14. slowfox

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    I do. But only because I win a lot of easy points on my serve.
     
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