US Men and Clay

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Tofuspeedstar, May 26, 2010.

  1. Tofuspeedstar

    Tofuspeedstar Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    336
    Location:
    Houston,TX/Takamatsu City,Japan
    Those guys seem to be less scared of the clay now? With an All-American final in Belgrade prior to Roland Garros, and five guys have a chance to make it past the third round!

    Discuss?

    Is it improving? Nothing? Getting worse?
     
    #1
  2. ChuDat

    ChuDat Professional

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Well we can't tell until the 3rd round. For starters if they were getting worse then I suppose they wouldn't be passed the 1st or 2nd round.
     
    #2
  3. kishnabe

    kishnabe G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2008
    Messages:
    17,161
    Location:
    Toronto
    I'd say they are putting more effort...not about getting better on the surface. Some don'ttry because they feel that they can't win in a preferred way.
     
    #3
  4. Tofuspeedstar

    Tofuspeedstar Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    336
    Location:
    Houston,TX/Takamatsu City,Japan
    Maybe I spoke too soon......

    Isner is out
    Fish is out (though a good match)
    Dent just got creamed.


    Roddick and Ginepri are holding it down for the US though.
     
    #4
  5. jerriy

    jerriy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 10, 2010
    Messages:
    2,076
    It's just an illusion.

    American players' red turf record looks better not cuz their clay court game has improved because their non-clay game has gotten worse and worse and worse :mrgreen:
     
    #5
  6. sdont

    sdont Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    6,986
    Location:
    Paris, France
    With three players in the third round of RG, USA were second only to Spain this year.
     
    #6
  7. West Coast Ace

    West Coast Ace G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13,503
    Location:
    So Cal
    The lighter, faster balls helped. And like kishnabe said, two guys spent the entire season in Europe.
     
    #7
  8. pjonesy

    pjonesy Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    1,098
    You're right. But, generally the American men never learn to move comfortably (or effectively) on red clay. Its hard to gauge if our players are getting better, because most of the guys that have been playing well (Querrey, Isner) on clay aren't known for their movement anyway. Most of the American players are just big, powerful players who are playing aggressively on clay and that is why they are winning. The only 2 American players that I can think of that have moved well on clay in the last 20 years are Chang and Courier. But, I certainly would not put them in the same class as the Spanish players, regarding their movement on the surface.
     
    #8

Share This Page