Us Open Draw

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  1. jt1224x0

    jt1224x0 Rookie

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    When is the draw coming out? I thought it was today?:confused:
     
  2. whatsgood4u

    whatsgood4u New User

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    It seems like the usta is behind on schedule in almost everything.
     
  3. blinkinrogue

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    i think i just saw it (wta), sheesh on one side of the draw, they have justine, ana, serena, jelena, and venus!
     
  4. jt1224x0

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    WHAT???????????? NO THAT'S BAD:mad:
     
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  7. blinkinrogue

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    wow how lucky can maria and svetlana get???? :confused:
     
  8. jt1224x0

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    Top Half

    Q1

    Roger Federer SUI (1)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    QUALIFIER


    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    John Isner USA
    vs.
    Jarkko Nieminen FIN (26)


    Juan Carlos Ferrero ESP (21)
    vs.
    Feliciano Lopez ESP

    Robert Kendrick USA
    vs.
    Igor Andreev RUS


    Donald Young USA
    vs.
    Chris Guccione AUS

    Sergio Roitman ARG
    vs.
    Richard Gasquet FRA (13)


    Tomas Berdych CZE (9)
    vs.
    Marc Gicquel FRA

    Simone Bolelli ITA
    vs.
    Julien Benneteau FRA


    Gilles Simon FRA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Fernando Verdasco ESP
    vs.
    Paul-Henri Mathieu FRA (22)


    Ivo Karlovic CRO (32)
    vs.
    Arnaud Clement FRA

    Thomas Johansson SWE
    vs.
    Nicolas Massu CHI

    Jose Acasuso ARG
    vs.
    Martin Vassallo Arguello ARG

    Justin Gimelstob USA
    vs.
    Andy Roddick USA (5)

    Q2

    Nikolay Davydenko RUS (4)
    vs.
    Jesse Levine USA

    Nicolas Kiefer GER
    vs.
    Vincent Spadea USA

    Peter Luczak AUS
    vs.
    Luis Horna PER

    Alex Kuznetsov USA
    vs.
    Nicolas Almagro ESP (28


    Andy Murray GBR (19)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Juan-Pablo Guzman ARG
    vs.
    Jonas Bjorkman SWE

    Dominik Hrbaty SVK
    vs.
    Hyung-Taik Lee KOR

    Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo ESP
    vs.
    Guillermo Canas ARG (14)

    Tommy Haas GER (10)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Benjamin Becker GER
    vs.
    QUALIFIER


    Paul Goldstein USA
    vs.
    Sebastien Grosjean FRA

    Max Mirnyi BLR
    vs.
    Marcos Baghdatis CYP (18


    Filippo Volandri ITA (29)
    vs.
    Michael Llodra FRA

    Stefan Koubek AUT
    vs.
    Sam Querrey USA

    Fabrice Santoro FRA
    vs.
    Albert Montanes ESP

    Michael Russell USA
    vs.
    James Blake USA (6)


    BOTTOM HALF OF DRAW

    Q3

    Tommy Robredo ESP (8
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Mardy Fish USA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Michael Berrer GER

    Ernests Gulbis LAT
    vs.
    Potito Starace ITA (30)


    Carlos Moya ESP (17)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Guillermo Garcia-Lopez ESP
    vs.
    Igor Kunitsyn RUS

    Mariano Zabaleta ARG
    vs.
    Philipp Kohlschreiber GER

    Nicolas Devilder FRA
    vs.
    Mikhail Youzhny RUS (11)

    Lleyton Hewitt AUS (16)
    vs.
    Amer Delic USA

    Andreas Seppi ITA
    vs.
    Agustin Calleri ARG

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Nicolas Lapentti ECU

    Edouard Roger-Vasselin FRA
    vs.
    Juan Monaco ARG (23)


    Jurgen Melzer AUT (31)
    vs.
    Diego Hartfield ARG

    Juan Martin Del Potro ARG
    vs.
    Nicolas Mahut FRA

    Carlos Berlocq ARG
    vs.
    Radek Stepanek CZE

    Mario Ancic CRO
    vs.
    Novak Djokovic SRB (3)


    Q4

    Fernando Gonzalez CHI (7)
    vs.
    Teimuraz Gabashvili RUS

    Robby Ginepri USA
    vs.
    Olivier Rochus BEL

    Stanislas Wawrinka SUI
    vs.
    Evgeny Korolev RUS

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Marat Safin RUS (25)


    Juan Ignacio Chela ARG (20)
    vs.
    Michael McClune USA

    Danai Udomchoke THA
    vs.
    Wayne Odesnik USA

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Gael Monfils FRA

    Kristof Vliegen BEL
    vs.
    Ivan Ljubicic CRO (12)

    David Ferrer ESP (15)
    vs.
    Florian Mayer GER

    Florent Serra FRA
    vs.
    Werner Eschauer AUT

    Xavier Malisse BEL
    vs.
    Kristian Pless DEN

    Ivan Navarro Pastor ESP
    vs.
    David Nalbandian ARG (24)


    Dmitry Tursunov RUS (27)
    vs.
    Tim Henman GBR

    Jo-Wilfried Tsonga FRA
    vs.
    Oscar Hernandez ESP

    Janko Tipsarevic SRB
    vs.
    Ryan Sweeting USA

    Alun Jones AUS
    vs.
    Rafael Nadal ESP (2)
     
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  10. jt1224x0

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    Women's Singles - First Round Section 1 2 3 4
    Justine Henin BEL (1)
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    QUALIFIER

    Olga Poutchkova RUS
    vs.
    QUALIFIER
    Next Round

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Julia Schruff GER

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Ai Sugiyama JPN (28)

    Tatiana Golovin FRA (17)
    vs.
    Ahsha Rolle USA

    Yung-Jan Chan TPE
    vs.
    Karin Knapp ITA
    Next Round

    Virginia Ruano Pascual ESP
    vs.
    Kateryna Bondarenko UKR

    Catalina Castano COL
    vs.
    Dinara Safina RUS (15)

    Marion Bartoli FRA (10)
    vs.
    Alexa Glatch USA

    Sara Errani ITA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER
    Next Round

    Andrea Petkovic GER
    vs.
    Audra Cohen USA

    Jessica Moore AUS
    vs.
    Lucie Safarova CZE (20)

    Vera Zvonareva RUS (27)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Lauren Albanese USA
    vs.
    Elena Likhovtseva RUS
    Next Round

    Tatiana Poutchek BLR
    vs.
    Maria Elena Camerin ITA

    Angelique Kerber GER
    vs.
    Serena Williams USA (8)


    Women's Singles - First Round Section 1 2 3 4
    Jelena Jankovic SRB (3)
    vs.
    Jarmila Gajdosova SVK

    Sofia Arvidsson SWE
    vs.
    Olga Govortsova BLR
    Next Round

    Tzipora Obziler ISR
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    Caroline Wozniacki DEN

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Samantha Stosur AUS (29)

    Sybille Bammer AUT (19)
    vs.
    Tamarine Tanasugarn THA

    Vania King USA
    vs.
    Meghann Shaughnessy USA
    Next Round

    Jill Craybas USA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Stephanie Cohen-Aloro FRA
    vs.
    Elena Dementieva RUS (14)

    Venus Williams USA (12)
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Ioana Raluca Olaru ROU
    vs.
    Ashley Harkleroad USA
    Next Round

    Eleni Daniilidou GRE
    vs.
    Yvonne Meusburger AUT

    Gisela Dulko ARG
    vs.
    Alona Bondarenko UKR (21)

    Mara Santangelo ITA (25)
    vs.
    Vera Dushevina RUS

    Ekaterina Bychkova RUS
    vs.
    QUALIFIER
    Next Round

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Aravane Rezai FRA

    Aiko Nakamura JPN
    vs.
    Ana Ivanovic SRB (5)


    Nadia Petrova RUS (7)
    vs.
    Timea Bacsinszky SUI

    Anastasia Rodionova RUS
    vs.
    Olga Savchuk UKR
    Next Round

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Agnes Szavay HUN

    Alberta Brianti ITA
    vs.
    Michaella Krajicek NED (32)

    Katarina Srebotnik SLO (22)
    vs.
    Alicia Molik AUS

    Maria Kirilenko RUS
    vs.
    Martina Muller GER
    Next Round

    Jelena Kostanic Tosic CRO
    vs.
    Elena Vesnina RUS

    Julia Vakulenko UKR
    vs.
    Daniela Hantuchova SVK (9)

    Martina Hingis SUI (16)
    vs.
    Mathilde Johansson FRA

    Tatjana Malek GER
    vs.
    QUALIFIER
    Next Round

    QUALIFIER
    vs.
    Victoria Azarenka BLR

    Dominika Cibulkova SVK
    vs.
    Tathiana Garbin ITA (23)

    Anabel Medina Garrigues ESP (31)
    vs.
    Aleksandra Wozniak CAN

    Lourdes Dominguez Lino ESP
    vs.
    Yoon Jeong Cho KOR
    Next Round

    Camille Pin FRA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Klara Zakopalova CZE
    vs.
    Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS (4)



    Women's Singles - First Round Section 1 2 3 4
    Anna Chakvetadze RUS (6)
    vs.
    Ashley Weinhold USA

    Jamea Jackson USA
    vs.
    Nicole Pratt AUS
    Next Round

    Laura Granville USA
    vs.
    QUALIFIER

    Kaia Kanepi EST
    vs.
    Sania Mirza IND (26)

    Francesca Schiavone ITA (24)
    vs.
    Nathalie Dechy FRA

    Greta Arn GER
    vs.
    Tamira Paszek AUT
    Next Round

    Severine Bremond FRA
    vs.
    Edina Gallovits ROU

    Iveta Benesova CZE
    vs.
    Patty Schnyder SUI (11)

    Nicole Vaidisova CZE (13)
    vs.
    Alla Kudryavtseva RUS

    Flavia Pennetta ITA
    vs.
    Shuai Peng CHN
    Next Round

    Bethanie Mattek USA
    vs.
    Madison Brengle USA

    Meilen Tu USA
    vs.
    Shahar Peer ISR (18)

    Agnieszka Radwanska POL (30)
    vs.
    Akiko Morigami JPN

    Emilie Loit FRA
    vs.
    Virginie Razzano FRA
    Next Round

    Yaroslava Shvedova RUS
    vs.
    Casey Dellacqua AUS

    Roberta Vinci ITA
    vs.
    Maria Sharapova RUS (2)
     
  11. Purostaff

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    Looks like Roddick won't reach the final this year, and Henman is not in Fed's half for once :D

    I predict Fed vs Novak or Hewitt at the final.
     
  12. Forehand Forever

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    Looks like Roddick and Federer will probably meet up earlish. That's great.:mad:
     
  13. nyc

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    Well, one thing's for sure: Safin's going to crash and burn in the first round, regardless of opponent ;)
     
  14. JLyon

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    Isner should make it to a 3rd Round waxing by Federer which could be interesting with a huge server vs. arguably one of the best returns in the game.
    Interesting 2nd Round match could be DY and Gasquet.
    1st Round of Mirnyi/Baghdatis is great match-up; Querrey/Koubek will be interesting, Ancic/Djokovic could best 1st Round Match; Henman/Tursonov to bad for Henman that Tursonov owns him.
     
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  15. Jack the Hack

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    WOW! Did Nadal get a sweet draw or what?

    Even on a super-fast hard court, I still don't see anybody in his quarter that should give him trouble. Then, the guy who could give him the most problem in the semifinal, Djokovic, has a tough couple of matches in rouds 1 and 2, so he might not even make it that far. This is a golden opportunity for Nadal as long as his body cooperates.
     
  16. KBalla08

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    man... roddick will be in the quarters and out.............................
     
  17. edberg505

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    I'd like to see the Chris Guccione vs. Donald Young match. Let's see if he can pull out a win.
     
  18. Jack the Hack

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    Hmmm... I just don't think that Isner has the groundies or fitness to beat Jarkko Nieminen in best of 5 sets. Nieminen was a quarterfinalist at the US Open two years ago, and a quarterfinalist at Wimbledon last year. He likes fast surfaces, and I think he'll beat Isner in 4 sets.

    Donald Young has an interesting first round battle of lefthanders with Guccione. Unlike last year, Young might actually have a 50/50 chance in this match. Guccione started the year well, but has tapered off considerably since... and he has been on the challenger circuit of late. Also, this match contrast of big and tall, serve verses return, power verses touch. Regardless, I think the winner will get schooled by Gasquet.

    I agree that Ancic/Djokovic is probably the best 1st rounder, and the winner likely gets Stepanek (not an easy match either).

    Federer's quarter is brutal.

    Nadal's quarter (half?) is the best US Open draw he may ever get, so let's hope he is healthy enough to take advantage of it.
     
  19. Nadal_Freak

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    It's great but I wish Djokovic was on Federer's side of the draw. Still not super easy. QF: Nadal vs. Gonzalez SF Nadal vs. DJokovic F Nadal vs. Federer.
     
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  20. masha4ever#1

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    yeah!!!!!!! :D great draw for Masha;)
     
  21. anointedone

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    Please, Federers quarter is even easier then Nadals. Gasquet has sucked all summer, if he even makes it to Federer he will be spanked. Roddick will be spanked big time if he even makes it to that round.
     
  22. Lleyton Hewitt

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    hewitt v djokovic 4th round - thats what it looks like. anyone think hewitt can beat this guy ?
     
  23. NadalForever

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    Nadal's draw is by far the easiest but I still do not see Nadal making to the semifinal because Nadal really sucks and does not care about hardcourts for some mysterious reason and on top of that is suffering some kind of injury. It's too bad Djokovic's draw is by far the hardest because Djokovic is the only player that has what it takes to beat Federer on hardcourt.
     
  24. Jack the Hack

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    You can't have it all... ;)

    Roddick, Gasquet, Berdych, Karlovic, Neiminen, and Ferrero are all in Federer's quarter (never mind half)...
     
  25. anointedone

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    Nadal will be in the final against Federer I think. Federer and Nadal both got very easy quarters. The hard quarters are the Djokovic and Davydenko quarters, and whoever gets out of them to the semis will be exhausted.
     
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    On fast hardcourts, I don't think exhaustion will be a problem. I expect Djokovic and Federer in the finals.
     
  27. anointedone

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    Federers personal doormat, thanks for coming. Just lost to Ferrer, no confidence right now. Roddick will be lucky to make it to the quarters to be massacred by Federer.

    Not that good on hard courts, has done nothing this summer, would be lucky to even make round of 16 to lose to Federer.

    Ridiculously overrated. Federer always beats him easily too.

    Good luck even making the quarters to play Federer. Even if he does good luck doing better then losing a bunch of tiebreaks.

    Really grasping now.

    When did he last beat Federer anywhere. Had better chance on slow grass then fast hard courts here too.

    Like I said easy easy draw.
     
  28. anointedone

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    We will see, I think you underestimate Nadal. The U.S Open is like an endurance test, always has been, even if they are fast courts.
     
  29. Jack the Hack

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    When I say that Federer's quarter is brutal, I'm not talking specifically about his draw. He opens with a qualifier, has another qualifier in the second round, then maybe has Niemenin in the 3rd, Gasquet (or Ferrero) in the 4th, and then whoever makes it through the labyrinth at the bottom of the quarter.

    Rather, I was referring to the bottom of the quarter, which has Roddick, Johansson, Clemant, Karlovic, Mathieu, Verdasco, and Berdych all bunched up. It's hard to say who will make the quarters out of that group.
     
  30. Trainer

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    I agree with that.
     
  31. ktownva

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    Somebody really wants Sharapova in the final. The toughest opponent in her half is Kuznetsova? Yuri must have called in a few favors.
     
  32. West Coast Ace

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    I could have told you that yesterday...or the day before...or last Thursday... :)

    I do. Will he? We'll see. I hope they both make it. Would be a kick *ss match (potentially) - good test for Djokovic and a chance to make the ultimate "I'm back!" statement for Hewitt.
     
  33. bluetrain4

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    I know that it really is "luck of the draw" but this is just absolutely ridiculous. Who else is in Maria's half? Anybody who could shake things up? (Bartoli, Dementieva, an up and comer?)

    I guess I could just go look at the draw myself.
     
  34. ktownva

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    Dementiava and Bartoli both in Henin's half.
     
  35. anointedone

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    OK I agree in that case. However for Federer himself it will not be brutal.
     
  36. Jack the Hack

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    I agree with West Coast's comments above... but will add that they have a 1-1 head-to-head record against each other. Djokovic won that tight 4 setter at Wimbledon this year, but Hewitt could pull this one off. The problem is that Djokovic has a much tougher road just to get to this 4th round, having to get by Ancic, Stepanek, and either Mahut, Del Potro, or Melzer.
     
  37. anointedone

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    I dont think Hewitt will beat Djokovic if they play. If Hewitt couldnt beat him at WImbledon, it will be much harder here. Hard courts are Djokovics best surface by far. Hewitts win over Djokovic was an easy win at last years U.S Open when Djokovic was nothing the player he is now, I mean Donald Young even took the first set off him last year, LOL!
     
  38. masha4ever#1

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    well...I do ;)
     
  39. plain jane

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    i still think fed has this in the bag but i would like nadal to make at least the semis (even better the finals!)
     
  40. Moose Malloy

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    They really need to do away with 32 seeds, I can't recall a time in the mens game which was as predictable. would anyone be surprised if the top 4 make the semis? it seems to happening more & more these days. if nadal, fed, djokovic all make the semis, it could be a first(same 3 guys making the semis of 3 slams in the same year. where is the depth?)

    I think Hewitt will get to the final, Djokovic was under the radar at Wimbledon, there is much more pressure on him here.
     
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  41. drgnpride

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    Q2 with canas, blake, dayvidenko, querrey, murray, grosjean, haas, becker, and bagdahtis will be brutal. who comes out of this one? to bad we'll only be able to watch blake matches in US.
     
  42. Jack the Hack

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    I agree that Djokovic is much better this year. I was actually at his first round match verses Young last year (search around and you will find my thread with the pictures), and he is much improved compared to then. That's why I didn't specifically bring up the scores from when Hewitt beat him in the 3rd round at the Open last year (6-3, 6-1, 6-2). However, based on the scores of his match with Hewitt at Wimbledon [7-6(10) 7-6(2) 4-6 7-6 (5)], you can't exactly say that he blew Hewitt of the court or that Hewitt has no chance. If Djokovic is mentally or physically depleted from his earlier rounds, I could see that being the difference for a veteran like Hewitt to knock him off.
     
  43. anointedone

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    I agree Hewitt has a chance to beat him. I just feel strongly that Djokovic will win that match, not saying Hewitt has no chance. You are right their Wimbledon match was very tough, and Hewitt had alot of chances, but Djokovic is far better on hard courts then either grass or clay, whereas Hewitt is similar on grass and hard courts.

    I also dont think Ancic is that tough a first round. He is coming back from injury, and his ground game is not good enough anyway. Unless he has a monster serving game he has no chance. Stepanek is tougher.
     
  44. fastdunn

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    Yep, it's been already very predictable semi-s and quarters for last 2 year
    or so. I do not recall this kind of predictability and homogenity thru-out the
    whole seasons in last 20 years or.

    But I think it's more due to predictable match-ups(or lack of, baseliners vs
    baseliners) than depth issue. Match up's are much simpler now. You do not have
    other options if match-up at the baseline does not work.... so the seeds are
    very conforming on *all* surfaces.
     
  45. anointedone

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    If Hewitt takes out Djokovic somehow, Nadal will then be in the final. Hewitt cant beat Nadal.
     
  46. edberg505

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    Really? And how did you come to that conclusion?
     
  47. fastdunn

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    There's definitely something happening in Hewitt's game.
    He is a grand slam champion after all. I think, so far in 2007 summer hard court
    seasons, Hewitt gave Federer the toughest challenge.
    (Well Djokovic beat Fed but I think he beat pretty rusty Federer in
    1st tournament since Wimbledon).

    Well, but it's still a hard call against Djokovic.
    They have basically same game and Djokovic is a bit more powerful and
    Hewitt can't wear him down like he does to other opponents....
     
  48. Jack the Hack

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    I would agree that Nadal would most likely win a US Open semifinal showdown with Hewitt this year. However, Hewitt does have a 4-3 lifetime head-to-head record against Nadal, and he is a better fast court player... so this isn't a foregone conclusion.
     
  49. bluetrain4

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    Draws that look "brutal" don't always turn out that way.

    First, a section of the draw may have a lot of "big" names, but any one player will only have to play a few of those players. Fed doesn't have to play all of the great players in his half, only those that advance to meet Fed. Naturally some of those players will take each other out. Of course it is more "brutal" beause the mere possiblity of playing a series of great opponents is higher than if less "big" names were in that section.

    Second, if someone gets upset, it throws off the whole balance and the expected "brutality." For example,people are anticipating Nadal v. Gonzalez, which would be tought for Nadal since Gonzo beat him at the AO and is generally tough on hardcourts. But, assuming that Gonzo makes it that far is a huge assumption based on his recent form. If Nadal has to play the guy who beat the guy who beat Gonzalez, the "brutality" factor goes way down evn though that player is probably still pretty good.

    Third, at least to me, a "brutal draw" really only happens in the early rounds where a player gets luck or unlucky in having to play great, but not at their peak campions (Moya, Hewitt), lower ranked guys who give that particular player trouble, or an inconsistent player with huge weapons (someone like Joachim Johanssen). The later rounds, based on seeding will always be "brutal" if form holds.
     
  50. Dimonator133

    Dimonator133 Banned

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    wow i thought it always came out Friday...does it always come out Wednesday??

    well, pleasant surprise to the day that's for sure
     

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