Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by jergosh, Aug 9, 2009.
Update on Nadal: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09082009/58/open-nadal-winning-impossible.html
Gotta love the confidence..
Ahh well.. Another year goes by, another year Nadal doesnt reach a USO final. Its a shame cause I would have liked to see a Nadal-Fed USO final since we never got to see one and see how they would have matched up..
But obviously this is probably going to be a reoccuring theme with Nadal the rest of his career. More leg problems, and pulling out of more and more tournaments and not finishing seasons healthy
Imagine if Nadal beats Federer at the USO with his knees. It would be the funniest day EVER!
Then Fed fans can start making excuses on how Federer shouldn't be stripped of his French and Wimledon trophies.
Yea but nadal will probably get elminiated by the 4th round if that. Only way for Nadal to even see a deep USO run, he would have to be in top top form and 100 percent healthy just due to the fact he isnt as good there due to his game being neutralized. HE cant play on rubber legs or no knee caps and see success
All those interviews by Nadal are rather irritating. It looks to me he's trying to make the US Open a win-win situation for him:
1) If he wins, he is the biggest fighter in the game, winning a grand slam title without even being 100% recovered.
2) If he losses, it won't count as a legitimate loss because he was not fully recovered.
It seems Nadal and his uncle still haven't understood one simple idea - if you go into court, you are fit. End of story, no excuses. I hope Nadal hasn't bought into his fans ideas of him not being able to lose when fully healthy.
Well in his defense, tennis is a tough sport to play on not having any knees or legs to stand on.. And if anyone needs full support of his legs its nadal due to his style of play.
I see you enjoyed reading my sig, Mr. Agony. :lol:
But it pains me that he feels the need to give excuses before the even has even started. He bought into his fans hype, probably had a chat with Nadal's Freak and veroniquem.
Instead of all this talking he needs to practice, try hard and hope for the best. If he losses, it's a perfectly legitimate loss, because it was his decision to play. If he wins, good for him. But stop "preparing" the public for excuses. I hate those stunts.
Maximo is trolling again. Yeah it's really plausible that with bad knees Nadal will not only make the US Open final, but beat a healthy Federer! He'll be lucky to get to R16.
You accuse me of trolling!?!? :lol:
You're the biggest ******* on these boards. Creating endless amounts of fanboy threads and posts.
Your sig isn't based on anything real, so you making it up is rather pathetic. Of course, I can make stuff up myself.
Not as funny as Murray getting spanked in the final again.
My sig is based on you exaggerating Rog's fitness level. Don't deny that inside you know my sig has some truth to it.
BTW, what you said about me in yours just cracked me up. :lol:
Well I do agree. He should just keep his mouth shut and hope for the best instead of making pre-emptive excuses.. He has had some time off now.
Never wrote anything that has to do with Lance, and I was only commenting on tennis players, therefore, your sig has no truth in it, none. The only one you insult with it is yourself. People already know what a troll you are, and you making up sigs about other people only confirms their thoughts.
Finally we agree on something
It's hard to keep anything shut when you're in the public eye.
Actually if you read the article I think he's saying Montreal is almost impossible to win, not the US Open.
Nadal is not an idiot. He's coming to almost every tourny with the full intention of winning it. If he wasn't fit or didn't believe in his chances, he wouldn't have played, simple as that.
Yeah I'm not disputing that, just pointing out that technically I think the title of the article is misleading.
The sig was made from you exaggerating Federer's fitness level. No need for me to repeat myself. I know it hurts you badly, but you're going to have to deal with it. And calling me troll doesn't help you either. Since anyone other than a Fed fan knows how delusional you are when it comes to your Rog.
The sig was made up, that's all. In fact, all Murray fans in that thread disagreed with you about Fed's fitness. Yet even if you disagree with me and even if you think I'm exaggerating, that's no reason to make up stuff.
No they never agreed with you on the fitness of Federer being better than Nadal's and Murray's. Here is a perfect example of you doing what you said i'm doing to you. :-?
Also, i find it very frustrating when you say that you're a Murray fan when you quite clearly arn't. :-?
what happened to 'if i'm not 100%, i don't play'?
Well, i suppose Nadal can't miss every slam and ruin his career.
You can be a fan of someone without worshipping them 24/7....
You have failed again Maximo.
And also, not everyone who likes Murray has to like you. I like Murray, he's one of my favorite, but I'm also a realistic fan who can critisize when I feel it is needed.
He said Montreal is impossible to win,not USO.I hate it when they misquote.
They didn't say that he was fitter than both Murray and Nadal. Try harder, If you can that is...
You exaggerate on Fed's abilities. And put down Murray whenever it makes Federer look like the better man. You seriously arn't a fan of Murray. I really don't want to get into these pathetic arguments with a delusional guy.
For heavens sake maximo why do you have to turn every thread into a flame war?!?
They also didn't say he was less fit, so they don't agree with you also, at least until I see further proof.
If you think I'm just saying that because I "worship" Fed, why don't you make a poll? I bet at least 60% will vote for Federer as having superior fitness to Murray, perhaps even Nadal.
Lance has nothing to do with this. I only compared tennis players, therefore your sig is not only made up and pathetic, it is also irrelevant.
Doesn't matter, it's still a dirty stunt.
No, I'm being honest. Both Fed and Murray have their strngths and weaknesses. I have stated many times that Murray has the far better backhand of the two, and is a better tactican as of late.
Murray is no god, and yes, Federer does some stuff better than Murray and vice versa. Snap out of your worship mode and start thinking like a normal human being.
That would a great idea creating a poll since 80% of the fans here are of Federer. :roll:
I'm tired, i give up. You win the battle.
Bottom line - when Fed's forehand is on he can dominate Murray.
How is it dirty? Nadal doesn't have a big ego so he likes playing down his chances, we saw the strop Federer got in when he wasn't favourite in Australia because he has a massive ego.
Read my first post of the thread, I'm not going to repeat myself.
Nadal is being honest when he says he doesn't have much of a chance to win US Open. He knows himself best.
I also don't give him a chance of winning US Open. Nadal will be out before the final. A semi would be a great result for him.
It's a shame that after the Wimbly semi when everyone were down on you for all the "Murray will win Wimledon" threads and posts I was the one to defend you and asked people to be nice, because from where I come from it's not appropriate to be happy for other people's loss.
Nah, he's pulling another stunt to buy him some more excuses, as if "tired" and "injured" weren't enough for the clay season.
I don't think its a stunt. I believe he really loves playing tennis and doesn't like losing like every champion but I don't think its a stunt. He is just being realistic.
I have to disagree. Nadal, with the help of his uncle, has turned into an excuse machine as of late. He was tired when he lost to Fed, he was injured when he lost to Robin, and now he is just giving excuses in advance just in case he losses again to no matter who.
Don't confuse Nadal with some of his fans on this board. They always have excuses, sometimes its the altitude or the real final having already been played the day before.
Nadal doesn't make excuses. He is just saying he is not totally fit and if he loses it shoudn't be a surprise.
All this sandbagging is totally pathetic. I used to think that a former number one would talk about himself so badly in the press, but this just takes it to a new level.
If he wins, it'll be because he's the greatest warrior in the history of the universe. After all, he accomplished the impossible given his situation.
If he loses to Federer, Djokovic, Murray, or anyone else, his defeat will be forever have an asterisk by it because, well, Rafa was trying to achieve the impossible.
This is like those annoying tennis kids and parents that have their kids play up an age group all the damn time because they can't handle the pressure of expectations.
You should be ashamed of this post. He is coming back off a serious knee injury and is rightfully playing down his chances but obviously you're a very very insecure Federer fan.
Let's give Nadal some time and see how he does in the upcoming tournaments. By the time of the US Open he might be getting to his best but even at his best I think he will lose in the semis.
If Nadal loses to any of the top 4, its not because he wasn't 100% but because they were better on the day. If he isn't fit enough to play, he shouldn't step on to the court.
If he's really in that bad of a shape, he should take more time off to rehab it. It's not fair to the rest of the tour to mark future victories like he's doing.
He didn't get hit by a car, he didn't tear his ACL, he didn't get stabbed, yet he's making a colossal deal out of a CHRONIC condition that he's been struggling with FOR YEARS.
Seles came back from much worse and wasn't a crybaby, even though she had every right to qualify the rest of her matches for the rest of her career.
Me? Insecure? Look at all the *******s that are just chomping at the bit at any little excuse they can find to excuse Nadal if he struggles when he comes back.
I fully agree with you and P_Agony on this one. If he feels it is going to be nearly impossible to win Montreal, then he should take a bit more time off, or wait and play a smaller tournament.
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