USA! USA! US--Oh, forget it

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  1. jc4.0

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    I don't think the US has any great new players in the pipeline, do you? On the men's side, we have Isner (who I absolutely love watching), and maybe Ryan Harrison, actually from the Bahamas, who has been touted by USTA for years but with his anemic serve isn't really much of a threat - then there are the aging Fish, Roddick, and Williams Sisters. After these stalwarts retire in a year or two - who's next?

    Don't give me surfer-dude Querry, or "flash in the pan" Oudin. For some reason, U.S. tennis players aren't trained as well, or don't care as much, as the Spanish, French or even the Serbians.
     
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  2. jamesblakefan#1

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    This topic has never been discussed...
     
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  3. cucio

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    So, pray tell, how many great players has Spain in the pipeline?

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  4. jdubbs

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    Why do you love watching Isner? He has a serve...that's it. His other strokes are 5.0 level and he routinely gets blown away by lesser opponents.
     
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  5. klu375

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    You mixed up Harrison and Sweeting. Harrison is not from Bahamas and does not have anemic serve. You need to watch more tennis.
     
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  7. tacou

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    good point. I thought I liked Isnerr too but then you explained it now I have your opinion
     
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  8. dominikk1985

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    womens tennis is pretty much dead.

    but mens tennis is quite OK I think. the USA have a lot of top10 players there will be a top player again soon (maybe harrison).
     
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  9. courtking

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    what do you mean dead?? you got some great player ready to make top ten..

    Christina McHale who??
    Oudin?? oh yeah.. Bethany Matek-Sand?? she will make top 5 worse dress player of all time..

    I just wonder why US still bother doing the Fed cup.. it's quite embarrassing..
     
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  10. Manus Domini

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    Yeah, Harrison

    I suppose that Dr. Ivo is your other fav?

    Yeah, I'm sure a 130mph serve is anemic, as well as ill-suited for his S&V game :roll:

    Young, cause he ain't aging

    When's the last time the French won a slam, huh?

    USA players are not trained the same way as other nations, but it isn't the only nation suffering right now...
     
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    In Barcelona, there's only Kendrick on the US side
     
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  12. Ronaldo

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    Our best athletes are playing soccer
     
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  13. ledwix

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    You were being sarcastic about having fun watching Isner, right? Makes sense.

    And I am also starting to forget about USA in tennis. None of the people are that appealing. I see tennis as a break from watching typical American sports on T.V. Tennis to me is a European sport. Americans have got almost nothing to do with it anymore.

    Almost nobody I know cares about ATP, anyway....
     
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    Vania King is a Slam winner.
     
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    So many! Ehhhm... ahhm... for example... this guy who... aheemmm...

    Random picture of Taberna's Desert in Spain, absolutely topic non-related.
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  16. Devilito

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    Raonic is just starting his run at 20, Harrison is still 18. Give him a couple more years before writing him off. You guys are vultures
     
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  17. Cup8489

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    Raonic is Canadian.
     
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  18. PONG

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    Womens side = no one

    Mens side = maaaaaybe Harrison
     
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    Right, but his point is that it's too early to write off Harrison. Raonic is an example of a player who was on nobody's radar at 18 and is now making some noise.
     
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  20. groundbreaker

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    Pretty much. Lot of idiots here who love to spout random crap for the reaction.


    And Harrison seems to have the whole package. Sweeting and Young are other potentials. Isner probably is gonna hang around the top 15-30 for a while, but I don't seem him getting a lot of huge wins.

    There's dozens of other usa players who are on their way up the rankings. A few to keep an eye are Kudla and Sock. Collarini and Cox are doing alright. People need to judge these players a break and just enjoy the tennis. :)
     
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    There aren't a whole lot of young players from any countries making breakthroughs, at least not from any of the traditional powers (US, France, Australia, GBR). When you look at the top 100, it's very much an old man's game w/ very few youngsters. And the few that are making breakthroughs are from non-traditional powers (Raonic - Canada, Dolgopolov - Ukraine, DeBakker - Netherlands). Those are the only young guys that come to mind that have really shown something, at least in my eyes.
     
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  22. cucio

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    I still think there's nothing any tennis federation can do to ensure the appearance of certain amount of top-100 talent every year. That's ridiculously high level, and there are too many uncontrollable factors involved: genetics, athleticism, psychology, personality development, good connection between coach and coached...

    If we try to find a historical statistic relationship between a country's number of federated players and the top-100 players that country produces, I think the relationship will be at best very tenuous. It doesn't necessarily follows that from an extra 100,000 federated kids you will gain one top-100 15 years afterwards.
     
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  23. MAXXply

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    To borrow a phrase from Denis Leary, put it this way - at least you have the bomb. Spain doesn't.
     
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    Why do they call themselves Team USA in national competitions, that always annoys me
     
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    The truth is the whole world is struggling compared to Spain, Switzerland, and the Balkans.
     
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