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  1. aznkb888

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    if ginepri is the best american player right now, american tennis is in a sad state considering ginepri's 5 set flameout in the second round of the aussie open and losing in the first round at delray beach...
     
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  2. idj49

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    Is this the same Robby Ginepri who has won 1 match all year? I am a Robby fan too but come on.
     
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  3. go_nadal

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    Jez, arod wat happend?? I hope hes not to sick and gets better...
    Thats a really bad loss for him... i hope he pulls it together and starts playing better through out this year.
     
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  4. Ronaldo

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    Blake about to tie this tie 1-1, up 5-2 3rd set
     
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  5. Ronaldo

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    Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
     
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  6. ACE of Hearts

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    Romania basically squandered any chance they had when they couldnt go up 2-0, now they know who they have to face, and its an uphill climb!
     
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  7. Max G.

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    Well, it's 1-1 right now - it's even. They're not out of the tie yet.

    Bryan Bros have a great advantage in the doubles... but the reverse singles could get very interesting. If whatever was ailing Roddick (if something was ailing Roddick) doesn't go away (or if Roddick just keeps playing at this level - I didn't see the match, but I've heard that he was either sick or playing badly or both) then he could easily lose his second singles, and then it'll come down to Blake vs Pavel - and that could go either way.

    It's an uphill climb, but that's what it was expected to be. And they certainly seem like they could make that climb, however tough it is.
     
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  8. Dan007

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    He got lucky last year. I think he can stay in top 20 but he isn't going to break in the top 10. And are you serious? Andy and Andre are way better than Ginepri.
     
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  9. VamosRafa

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    I just posted in another thread, but I have to say watching Andy throw up on court today was not pretty. But total credit to him for staying on court and doing his best. I was very proud of him.

    And great that JB levelled the match. So we're in good shape going into Saturday, and we know Sunday will mean something. So that's always nice. Although the shopping around here is amazing. :D
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    Tennis whenever, shopping forever, eh??????????
     
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  11. alienhamster

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    From what I saw today, Roddick wasn't playing badly--just erratically. Before the puking started, he was also having problems with his arm/wrist. He seemed to be bothered by it before he called the trainer. Part of why he lost the 3rd set tiebreak, IMO, seemed to be the arm issue. (He was rubbing/stretching it after some second serves.)

    If Roddick had played at the level he played in the first couple of sets at the end of the match, I don't think Pavel would have won. But he just seemed to be out of gas in the longer rallies, and this pretty much did him in.

    Hope he's better for Sunday.
     
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  12. superman1

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    Roddick has guts to have played a marathon match completely sick, especially after having match point for a straight set win. For anyone who says he doesn't care anymore, eat your hat and your hate.
     
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  13. RiosTheGenius

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    What makes P. Mac think that Roddick is the smartest idea for the singles right now.... everyone knows that Ginepri and Blake are at a great level right now and I'm sure the US would be 2-0 up if Ginepri had played Pavel instead. .... match lost by the coach not by Roddick.
     
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  14. superman1

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    Pat Mac is obviously a pretty lousy coach. He always has that face of death, like "Oh God, we're going to lose again." They need to get Johnny Mac out there again to pump those guys up.

    But Roddick is definitely the best choice for singles. It's Davis Cup so he's always going to give it his all. Just a bad day. I still can't figure Ginepri out. One day he's playing amazing tennis and looking like he can't miss a shot, and the next he's sulking around and going out in the first round.
     
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  15. VamosRafa

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    Johnny Mac is there in the booth here. Do you think the brothers don't talk???

    I think Patrick handled it well with Andy -- encouraging, but also knowing that when your player is throwing up next to you on the bench, you have take that into consideration.
     
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  16. Shabazza

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    Again, what has Ginepri done this year, to be at a great level??? :confused: I'm curios! Since when is losing 2 times in a row called a great level?
    really there was no other option but Roddick for this tie, period.
     
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  17. Ronaldo

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    Whatever was wrong with Roddick, noticed even in the 2nd set he was sweating so profusely it was dripping from his hat. Had to really dehydrate badly.
     
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  18. Shabazza

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    he's always sweating like that.
     
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  19. Ronaldo

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    Shabazza, wow, played dubs with a guy who sweats so bad, can take his shoes off and pour it out.
     
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  20. Shabazza

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    :lol: I'm glad I don't sweat like that
     
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  21. Kaptain Karl

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    Kudos to you all for the updates! Thank you.

    Reading these posts was WAY more thrillng than reading a match summary on some website. As one who cannot *watch* the matches in La Jolla, you were blessing. Thank you!!!

    (Please keep posting as things continue.)

    - KK
     
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  22. Ronaldo

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    Shabazza, played indoors in the summer in Strongsville Ohio, poor guy became so dehydrated he suffered heat exhaustion. We all learned that day that pitchers of beer won't re-hydrate.
     
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  23. mislav

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    Ditto, indeed.
     
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  24. Ronaldo

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    Horia Tecau? Played mxed w/Kuznetsova at US Open but what else? Anyone know much about him?
     
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  25. Shabazza

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    learned it the hard way, huh?! ;)
     
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  26. Shabazza

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    doesn't matter, don't see the Brayn brothers losing this match.
     
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  27. Ronaldo

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    Yeah, hard head brings a harder headache the next morning. Bryans won 1st set 6-2. Hanescu, whatawork, eh?
     
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  28. Ronaldo

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    Noooooooooooooooooooooo Mas
     
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  29. ACE of Hearts

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    This is why it was important to get up 2-0, now its 1-1 and u have to face the Bryan brothers, good luck u gonna need it.
     
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  30. ACE of Hearts

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    huh?Did they really quit?WTF happened?No mas:mrgreen:
     
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  31. alienhamster

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    Okay, this is the weirdest Davis Cup I've ever seen.

    So Hanescu, who's already being outplayed, suddenly calls for the trainer in the middle of his own service game at the end of the first set. It was at deuce, I think. Turns out his back is seizing up. They try wrapping it, he goes back out on the court (very reluctantly), gets broken, Romania loses the first set, Romanian team withdraws, Bryans win.

    I really wonder about Roddick playing Hanescu tomorrow. It might be a match involving projectile vomiting on one side vs. writhing on the court with back pain on the other.
     
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  32. ACE of Hearts

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    Geez, they should have massage therapist and beds near the courts:mrgreen:
     
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  33. Ronaldo

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    So, if Roddick and Hanescu don't play, who will sub?
     
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  34. Ash Doyle

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    Apparently, Hanescu had a rib slip out of place. I had never heard of such a condition and had to look it up online. It involves a weakened ligament that attaches a rib to the sternum and, according to the article, involves some intense pain.
     
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  35. aznkb888

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    and additional trash cans for roddick to puke in some more..
     
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  36. Fee

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    I do. I met Horia at a challenger last year, had many opportunities to chat with him. I never saw him play because I was too busy working, but he's a pretty decent guy, 21 years old. Lives and trains in Florida. Won a Futures at the end of last season, won a Futures doubles title at the beginning of this season. Won a DC doubles match with Mergea 2 years ago on clay in Ecuador. From what I've been told, he has no second serve, just two first serves, and he doesn't have the strongest nerves. McEnroe seemed to be impressed with his doubles skills during the first match. He might get the call to play Roddick tomorrow, but there is some possibility that it will be Sabau instead.
     
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  37. Max G.

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    So is the rib thing treatable within one day?
    And is whatever Roddick had treatable within two? (Of which one has passed now?)

    That match is a total tossup now, and will come down to fitness...

    Hanescu can potentially be replaced by Razvan Sabau - the guy is ranked just outside the top 100 in singles (112th, actually), so though he's not the greatest player, he's probably able to put up a fight, especially if his opponent is a sick Roddick.

    Roddick doesn't really have a good replacement - they can go with one of the Bryan bros, Bob had gotten to 116 in the world when he played singles for a little bit, but he's best on fast courts.

    If Bryan has to play against a healthy Hanescu, then that doesn't bode well. But he'd have a chance if it was against Sabau.


    Tecau is ranked in the 400s in singles - I think if it had to come down to Tecau or Sabau, the rankings would indicate that Sabau gets the nod.

    ...and then there's the fourth match, Blake vs. Pavel. Blake would be the clear favorite in that, he's playing well, but Pavel has had his moments and almost certainly has the belief that he can beat Blake. So that'll be a good match, if it gets to that.
     
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  38. CliffH

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    I see it quite often, I'm a Chiropractor that does a lot of sports medicine stuff in Socal. This is what Sharapova was being treated for at the Aussie Open.

    Obviously, which rib is messed up determines a lot how long it takes to heal, as different ribs are bothered by different motions. No twisting, no pain. Not condusive to quick reaction doubles tennis especially quick rotational movements. He's screwed, most probably for a couple of weeks but it could be a mild case. With more info we can tell more.
     
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  39. Shabazza

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    this doesn't sound promising, so Sabau will probably play instead - even a sick Roddick should be able to pull it out, if he can hold his stomach together....
     
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  40. Max G.

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    I'm still worried...

    Sabau is ranked just outside the top 100. That's not good enough to trouble Roddick if he has a good day, but what if he has a bad day and is still sick? Remember, Bastl wasn't in the top 100 when he beat Sampras at Wimbledon... and sickness is no laughing matter, if Roddick can't play well then it's certainly possible that he'll lose to someone like Sabau.

    And remember, this is Davis Cup - the atmosphere can have the effects of lifting players' games temporarily, there've been some crazy upsets in Davis Cup before. (Of course, it can also make him choke horribly from nerves - but what if that doesn't happen?)
     
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  41. Shabazza

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    You have a point, given that Sabau isn't expected to win, no real pressure for him. But Roddick certainly don't want to go out of this DC-tie with two loses.
    This is an important match for him and a top 5 ranked player should be able to come through on top, though I have to admit I don't know how serious Roddicks problem is.
    Losing this match won't help him to gain back some confidence, for sure.
     
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  42. superman1

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    Even if he's not sick anymore, he might still be feeling the effects of it. Roddick doesn't have the game where he can just stand in one place and rip the ball with no effort. If he's going in there feeling tired, running around and hitting as hard as he can is going to take its toll. If Sabau has decent movement, is consistent, and knows how to work a dropshot, it could be a tough day for Roddick.
     
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  44. Max G.

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    Well then, my fears were unfounded... Roddick in straight sets, easily.

    Phew.
     
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  45. Shabazza

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    seems like his illness wasn't serious - easy win ;)
     
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  46. goober

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    Roddick is slicing way too many backhands. I hope this is not his brothers idea.
     
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  47. oscar_2424

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    Still it looked like Roddick was afraid of taking his backhand, in a match like this he should have worked on his backhand to get his confidence back
     
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  48. VamosRafa

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    IMO, Andy was not 100% today. He played well enough to win, but he was conserving energy, and not doing anything too dramatic. But he didn't have to do anything more. He was fairly certain going into today that he wouldn't be playing Hanescu. Wasn't the most exciting day of tennis, but he got the job done.
     
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  49. superman1

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    Sabau must be a very average player. He said that he should have done something differently because Roddick was standing way behind the baseline and playing defensively. So...why didn't he do something differently??
     
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  50. Shabazza

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    lol I think he asks himself the same question right now. :mrgreen:
     

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