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  1. borg number one

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    Thanks Mike! Good to see you all. Sentinel, that link above is really interesting with the Mt. Everest graphics!

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/star-in-you.html

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    Interesting posts, Sentinel and Borg #1

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    John Krakeur wrote a gripping story about the failed Everest expedition of 1995 where 15 people lost their lives in one day.

    'Into Thin Air', couldn't recommend it highly enough.

    I tried to climb Acongaua, but suffered terribly with headaches caused by altitude sickness. Got to nearly 20,000 feet though.
     
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    The Star in You was really interesting, BN1.


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    You're welcome Sentinel. I found it to be very helpful in understanding that connection we have to the cosmos.

    See the author Astrophysicist Neil Tyson discussing "The Most Astounding Fact" and how he feels big not small:

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    http://www.ancient-code.com/egyptian-ankh-cross-found-mexico/

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    This is still impressive. Certain situations give me vertigo, and mountain climbing on cliffs at a very high altitude would be one of them. It is hard to imagine being at the top of Everest and realizing that I had to now get down, and fast!

    Marat Safin didn't come close to matching your efforts on Cho-Oyu.
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    I've trekked up to about 15,000 feet (a place called Tapovan over Gaumukh in the UP Himalayas), stayed at Tapovan for a few hours, had lunch and headed down.

    Tapovan has just a little hut, with a man who cooks a lunch meal (rice and daal) for anyone who visits. IIRC, its at the base of the Shivling peak. The views are stunning. You can never forget it all your life.

    Those were wonderful times when i used to trek. But now i cant take the cold any longer.
     
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    Unless you do the Polish route Aconcagua is fairly much a plod up a giant hill. Needless to say I wasn't attempting that particular route.

    Had a hairy moment on the Mont Blanc once too, buts that's a story for another day.
     
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    Would love to hear about it.

    This is what you see from Tapovan. It almost looks like you could walk up this peak from Tapovan. I think it is the Shivling Peak

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    You get stunning views of the Bhagirathi Peaks from below where one camps. I have wonderful pics of them taken in 1991 and again around 2004 or 2005. This is just a stock photo.

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    Those mountains pictures look inspiring Sentinel.

    So here I am in early July one year attempting to climb the Mont Blanc via the Cosmique Hut route. Summit day is 1,000 of vertical up and takes a fit male about 7 hours to summit, you have then have a massive long walk down after down a different route with random rock fall which takes someone out every couple of years. There are a couple of steep sections where you need to kick your crampons and your ice pick every step you take. My experience is pretty limited, the previous Summmer I had climbed the relatively straight forward Gran Paradiso. The week leading up to summit day my friend and I had been leaning crampon and rope techniques living in alpine huts up on the Mer de Glace. We are pretty fit and well acclimatised. The weather had been pretty rotten which strange to say is quite characteristic for the first week of July.

    So on summit day, we jump out of our sleeping bags at about 1:00am have as much breakfast as we can manage, put on all our kit and well go for it. We are fortunate it is a clear night and not too cold. We are 3 on our rope me, my friend and our guide. We are pretty fit and before long find ourselves as the lead group. About an hour in we notice a bright light on the ridge before the summit, at first you might have thought it was a star, but as we got nearer it was apparent that it was a headlight, neon lights that one wears on ones helmet. We can only conclude that some people are marooned high up on the mountain.

    5 hours in to the climb we are about 60 vertical metres below the marooned couple. We are at the most technically difficult part of the climb and our inexperience began to show as other groups were catching up with us. It was at this point our guide took the decision to turn us around as he was very concerned by the slow slabiness caused by all the recent snow we had, and felt the avalanche risk was very high. I should say at the same time the weather also had come in and we were in cloud as day was breaking but had no real visibility. Our guide, who was the best on the mountain, made us descend. Descending is the tricky part and the guide always stays at the top of the rope. Meanwhile other teams and their guides had reached the point where we had decided to turn back and all so came to the same conclusion. So having led everyone up the mountain we were now leading everyone down the mountain. We were going very slowly so our guide said to another group of more experienced climbers that they should go first. So we started following them, but the route down seemed more steep and icy. Our guide shouted to the other guide that we were going down the wrong way, at which point their guide went down first so he could navigate the best route back. Ten minutes later I witnessed the guy at the top of their rope slip and all three of their team went cascading down the mountain. It was very sobering and frightening to see this. Our group continued to edge down the mountain and when we were on a slightly less steep bit our guide told us to wait there, while he attempted to rescue the marooned people trapped above. We were pinned on to the mountain with our crampons and ice axe only. At this point we could hear the mountain helicopter, but not see it who were attempting to rescue the marooned couple. Of course it couldn't land due to the poor visibility. Another 20 minutes later, two French mountain rescue guys turned up looking as fresh as daisies and they refused to attempt a rescue due to the avalanche risk. We told them however about the the three guys who had fallen, and they were later found remarkably with only one broken nose between them. On a bit of relative flat our guide, who had by this point descended, put us in a rescue tent, while he went with the French mountain rescue to try again for the marooned couple. An hour later he returned reporting that they had not been able to get to them. We then descended in a very heavy mood, not knowing at this point that the other climbers had only suffered superficial injuries.

    To get back down to the valley we had to walk up a ridge to the famous cable car the Mont d'Aguille. There is a 1,000m drop on one side and the ridge is icy and 70 cm wide. It was a very unpleasant final hurdle to a traumatic day. Later on when we were back in the valley, we eventually learned that the other marooned couple had eventually been rescued too.

    Every year, people with out proper experience and skills wonder up to the Valle Blanche. On our training days we witnessed people without guides doing crazy things and frankly foolish things. The Mont Blanc, while certainly not Everest, clams its share of victims every year. I suspect our story is just one of thousands of relatively lucky escapes.
     
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    ^ Gosh, that was some story. Had me on edge, you really could expand this into a short story and have it printed.
    Respect to you, bro. I was a mere trekker, and the lone kinds that, too. I really respect mountain climbers.

    That couple stranded above really haunted me throughout the story. Some more details of who they are would make that part even more personal, you know, putting a face on them. But obviously you don't know. They probably had a scary day too, seeing so many teams coming up and then going back without rescuing them. Imagine what they went through. I wonder who rescued them later and how.

    Also, i can imagine the dread you all felt throughout, not knowing the fate of those 3 who fell down, and of course thinking about the couple you left above. It must have affected you a lot.
     
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    ^ Thanks Sentinel.

    The couple we later learned where a Czech boyfriend/girlfriend. He was allegedly an experienced climber but she wasn't. They couldn't get down due to her being exhausted and hypothermic. I suspect she was very lucky that she was rescued in time, but don't know the full details of their rescue. The three guys on the other rope who fell were at least with an experienced guide and it was the guide who broke his nose, but miraculously nothing else. They were surely lucky not to fall into a big crevasse, but again I dont know the full details. Huge seracs periodically fall of the Mont Blanc, crevasses are everywhere and hundreds of meters deep...

    Please try and Google pictures for the Mont d'Aguille and the ridge to the Cosmique hut. It's ten years on and I must say I now don't have quite the same head for heights that I had before. No danger on the tennis court besides getting struck by a Sureshian serve!

    Forgive all the typos, all written on haste with an IPad and the blasted auto correct.
     
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    Very interesting and frightening recount, and an enjoyable read. I have been through many harrowing experiences in life and try to avoid stress when I take trips. Nevertheless, I am always fascinated when I come across documentaries about mountain climbing expeditions on television.

    I have been to Zermatt and other places in the Alps, but never far from a nice place for hot food and drinks, and hopefully quality whiskey. That is as high as I want to go.
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    Chana Daal Barfi - it's killing me, guys !
     
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    I've actually had this many years back, like more than ten years ago. It's moong dal barfi (made of green gram).

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    I used to buy it from Haldiram's. Then there's my other favorite which i used to get from the other end of town. Halwa made from moong dal.

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    I recommend the documentary film Touching the Void in that case. I won't spoil what happens, suffice to mention it is an extremely harrowing story of what can and does go wrong in the high mountains. One is left with a new found respect for the human ability to survive.
     
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    Those Indian sweets look good Sentinel! In moderation of course!

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    ^ I just dream of eating all these things. My house has embargoes on anything with calories, lol, even though i am so underweight.

    Anyway, the good news in my life is that i have finally located a reasonably priced gym within walking distance (20 minutes away). It's a run-down thing, with very old equipment most of which hardly works, and there are some free weights around but not too much, but it'll do for my conservative needs. It's government operated (if you can even use the word operated), so there is no need to ever upgrade or anything.

    The other choices were very expensive, five-star gyms which i cannot afford. What's nice is that the crowd here is mostly kids of government servants, so they are simple, respectful and very helpful people. Not the arrogant rich snobs i would find in the 5-star gyms.

    So i just had my first leg workout (after 25 years) yesterday. Hopefully, i can put on a bit of muscle on the emaciated upper body :D
     
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    ^ Thanks BN.

    But the sad news (happy in a sense that I have caught one culprit) but sad since it is something I dearly love....

    I;ve just accidentally discovered that peanuts cause me indigestion, and bloatedness and upsets. So possibly the indigestion i have faced for the last couple years at least, is due to munching roasted peanuts. That was my principle source of protein (cheaper than other nuts).

    I've been off peanuts for a few days, and then we found a bag in the fridge so i made a large batch of peanut butter, and had it with lunch. Was very heavy till the evening. Had it again after my evening run, again was very heavy. Felt awful the next day. Then it cleared off the second day.

    So most likely this has been a culprit. Man, i feel so gutted, since i love peanuts so much. But atleast i've discovered one problem cause (in addition to gluten).

    I hope there are no others (intolerances) because that makes it really tough for me to eat and even maintain weight, let alone gain any.
     
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    Sentinel, check with a Dr. if you can. I love nuts too, since they are a big source of protein for me. All the best with finding a diet that works for you.

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    Sentinel, delicious rice and bean combinations with vegetables should not be hard to find in India. A cursory check of my cabinet, stocked by my wife for quick Indian meals from American places like Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, and Indian markets makes me hungry!

    Some examples (on American labels) are: Bisibele Bhath (spiced and cooked rice and lentils), Pav Bhaji ("A popular Mumbai mix of potatoes and vegetables"), Dal Makhani (whole black lentils and kidney beans cooked in a creamy sauce of tomato, onions, and herbs), North India Baigan Bharta (Punjab eggplant flavoured with Indian spices and garlic). Rice, beans, vegetables, and spices offer many great options in India!
     
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    When Ringo Starr took a trip to India with the Beatles in the late 1960s, he took a suitcase of Heinz beans with him. The version of Heinz beans with tomato sauce is till easily found in Indian food markets in the United States.
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    As I post, I am wearing Björn Borg shoes/boots that I bought in Stockholm twenty years ago. I came across them yesterday and they are pretty much like new and very comfortable. There were also vintage Adidas shoes in the bag.
     
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    oh yes. Mike. Red kidney beans are very popular in India. They are also added in the Dal Makhani you eat in restaurants. Other Daals have a high/higher protein content with carbos and zero fats. I have quite a bit of lentils/pulses with rice at lunch.

    I've found a lot of protein filled items to have. I also use a flour for making chapattis/bread called Ragi which is red millet (i think). And it has a lot more iron and protein and calcium than wheat. I also use sorghum (another millet).

    BN1, yes, i am having other nuts such as almonds and cashews. I guess I'll get over peanuts soon.

    btw, its not an allergy, it's intolerance. So if i do accidentally have peanuts, I'll just have indigestion of a day, and maybe an off-stomach next morning. Nothing critical.

    Hopefully, my gluten intolerance is not high. So eating out should not be an issue.
     
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    I actually came in here because i just felt like posting an image of chocolate cake.

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    It's some kind of new OCD that has recently cropped up.
     
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    Nice little cake there. Sorry to trouble you but I believe i ordered a large.

    Kidding. Yes, i have noticed. Is it ocd on your part or are you conducting a pavlovian experiment with us as your puppies?
     
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    ^^^
    Nice photos, Sentinel.

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    Copenhagen's Amalienborg Palace with little Sweden lurking in the background

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    Antartica trip. Check this short vid out.

    https://vimeo.com/124858722

    This movie was shot during our 20 days trip to Antarctica in December 2014 to January 2015.

    We started from Ushuaia in Argentina and went to Port Williams in Chile, rounded Cape Horn and crossed the Drake Passage towards the Melchior Islands in Antarctica. We spent 16 days in the Antarctic and got to experience the most amazing scenery and wildlife before we returned back to Ushuaia.

    His 73 year old dad also went on a 3 year round the world trip recently !
     
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    Kronborg is a much better castle than Amalienborg. I managed to miss the salute for the Queen by oversleeping.


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    Today I noticed that Japanese Marlboro Lights are a lot smoother than the western counterparts.

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    Kronborg is much better; this is true. I use to live in an apartment very close to Amalienborg, and the little furry-hatted marching band would sometimes awaken me when I wanted to sleep past noon.

    Kronborg Castle was a nice place for a short train escape when the tourists weren't around, and I liked to sit on the grass, look across the sea, have a few beers, and write down my thoughts. I even did this in the winter snow.
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