USO 2013 Men's Final - Nadal v. Djokovic (with poll!)

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by Bud, Sep 7, 2013.

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Who will win the 2013 US Open?!

Poll closed Sep 9, 2013.
  1. Nadal in 3

    23 vote(s)
    9.6%
  2. Nadal in 4

    96 vote(s)
    40.2%
  3. Nadal in 5

    25 vote(s)
    10.5%
  4. Djokovic in 3

    13 vote(s)
    5.4%
  5. Djokovic in 4

    34 vote(s)
    14.2%
  6. Djokovic in 5

    48 vote(s)
    20.1%
  1. abmk

    abmk G.O.A.T.

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    I never backpedaled, clueless. You don't know how to comprehend.

    rafa wasn't struggling in every service game in the 2nd set. Djokovic raised his game and forced rafa to go on the backfoot.

    because winning a set playing below par tennis and winning a match are two entirely different things. duh !

    also let me know when you admit a blatantly obvious thing like roddick played much better vs fed in the USO 07 QF than djokovic did in the USO 07 final. Then maybe, just maybe you'd have a chance of not appearing laughable when you make statements like the above :lol:


    a less worse miss than this, because roddick had to make a decision at first whether that mishit shot from fed was going out or in.

    in any case, regarding djokovic's miss, I said one of the worst. My point stays. Deal with it. :)
     
  2. The_Order

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    :lol:

    And hence Nadal struggled to hold serve, being broken 2 times in a row. Just about every game Novak got to 40 or won.

    LMFAO, you need to win sets to win matches you clown. Nadal played terrible in that third set and Novak still couldn't win it, yet you want to make some claim that Novak doesn't need to be at his best (in fact you took it further than that at the time) to win against Nadal on HC.

    LOL you were so sure that Nadal was never going to beat Novak on HC in a major and now that bitter taste in your mouth is becoming too unbearable for you.

    Roddick didn't play much better than Novak, that's rubbish to try and boost Fed's wins. The truth is, Novak puts every shot maker under more pressure than Roddick ever could with his incredible defence and flexibility. This is what caused Fed to have more trouble. Whenever Fed played Roddick he was confident that he had the match won before they even started and therefore he was able to hit more freely against A-Rod who can't defend anywhere near as well as Novak could.

    Novak should've won the first two sets against Fed in that final, but yet again, the lucky Federer was playing Novak in his first major final and the guy couldn't handle the moments.


    No, you ALWAYS put the volley away if you can. It was worse than that little girl who was hitting with Nadal, Delpo and Ben Stiller in that exo earlier this year.

    You see, I know what you're trying to get at here it's quite obvious really. You're trying to say that Nadal only won because Novak missed shots that he never normally would. And whilst I agree that he did miss a few shots that he shouldn't have, Fed was also lucky in this regard. Yet I don't see you carrying on about the Roddick miss like you have been about players that miss against Nadal in important matches.

    The shot from Novak wasn't going to be a winner anyway, Roddick's missed BH volley certainly was going to be a winner. Big difference.

    You were wrong about Rafa, and now all you can do is try and take the gloss off of his wins. The key to the match was when Nadal was down 0-40 at 4 all. He hits a FH winner, gets a UE from Novak and then hits an ace and takes the game with a smash. That's hitting your way out, you can't do it on every point and even if Nadal hit a winner on every point, you would make some claim that Novak got passive.

    BTW Nadal made UE to give Novak that 0-40 advantage in the first place, but good to see this doesn't get mentioned by you either :oops:
     
  3. ^ Utter destruction.
     
  4. Marcel Granoller Bar

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    Charlie Rose Superman vs Nadal

    Gotta hand it to Charlie Rose.
    Gets into Syria to interview Assad in the morning.
    Drives thru the battle lines into Lebanon.
    TV interviews from Beirut.
    Takes the 16 hr flight to get to Arthur Ashe for the final.
    Gets to the CNN downtown studios for AC360 within an hour of the match.

    Then does his customary interview with the USOChamp here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_J2sMQEnaM

    Nice for 24 hrs of work !!
     
  5. The_Order

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    To those saying Novak handed it to Nadal:

    Nadal serving 3-4 second set:

    40-15 UE from Nadal
    40-30 Nadal hits a soft second serve into the middle of the service box Novak pounces because of this weak second serve.

    40-40 Novak hits a forced error.
    AD-40 Nadal hits a high floating slice BH into the middle of the court and Novak rightly blasts a winner from it.

    Next game point for Nadal

    AD-40 Nadal plays a passive point allowing Novak to dictate the rally and hit another winner

    Next game point for Nadal

    AD-40 Nadal makes a challenge and gets it wrong.

    Then Nadal hits a slice BH into the net UE.

    40-AD And Nadal hits a horrible drop shot in the middle of a long rally allowing Novak to hit an easy winner into the open court.

    You talk about handing things, don't forget to mention this.

    Nadal played pitiful in the second and third sets of that match yet still found a way. Suck it up.
     
  6. phnx90

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    Ouch, that is all.
     
  7. beast of mallorca

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    because winning a set playing below par tennis and winning a match are two entirely different things. duh !


    The Order:
    LMFAO, you need to win sets to win matches you clown. Nadal played terrible in that third set and Novak still couldn't win it, yet you want to make some claim that Novak doesn't need to be at his best (in fact you took it further than that at the time) to win against Nadal on HC.

    LOL you were so sure that Nadal was never going to beat Novak on HC in a major and now that bitter taste in your mouth is becoming too unbearable for you.

    ABMK just got a Big burn .....................:twisted:
     
  8. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    So now he's a burn victim, in addition to being severely asthmatic, what with the irritatingly long ellipses separating every three words?
     
  9. granddog29

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    This abmk individual appears to be a huge clown. So glad I have this butthurt loser on my ignore list.
     
  10. Chico

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    I see Vamos Brigade is ganging up on Abmk. Sorry but Abmk is right, The_Order is wrong.

    Novak had the match on his racquet and handed it to Nadal on a golden plate with his UEs. It was nothing Nadal did, he played the same the whole match and was incapable of doing anything against superb Novak in 2nd and 3rd.
    Novak's UEs and pitiful play gave away 1st and 4th and last two games in 3rd.

    This is clear to anyone impartial (I.E. not looking through a Vamos Brigade colored glasses) who watched the match.

    Sorry, but that is the way it was.
     
  11. ScentOfDefeat

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    It's a shame Djokovic can't get his mojo back against Nadal. It's starting to look like 2011 really was an exception.
     
  12. Lack

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    Nadal in 4
     
  13. tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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    Like i said, Novak was playing better tennis in set 2 and set 3 BUT Nadal was the better player mentally and physically speaking, during the whole match.

    Don't forget the 1st set where Nadal was playing fantastic tennis, and the way he saved these 3 break point at 4/4 in the third....
    Set 4 = Nadal destroying Djokovic.

    Nadal won, that's it. No need to discuss more about it.
     
  14. Chico

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    Just to correct you. Set 4 - Novak gave up and was spraying UEs all over the place. He destroyed himself.
     
  15. tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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    Djokovic will probably win AO 2014.
     
  16. Nathaniel_Near

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    Relax folks, ...
    Hey wow this thread is still going. It was obvious to anyone who has bothered to analyse and observe tennis over the last months that Nadal was going to beat Djokovic in the final in 3 or 4 sets (4 is what I voted for in the poll). And so it came to pass.


    I mean, for anyone who betted on the result of this match (the right way that is, as in the obvious and very very very very very and only logical decision to have betted on Nadal) made some really super dupily incredibly wonderfully EEEEZZZZZ money.


    The easiest money of. their. lives.
     
  17. Nathaniel_Near

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    Relax folks, ...
    It's wonderful to see how giddily ecstatic you are at the results, so much though that I dread to imagine the ramifications on a domestic level.
     
  18. Down_the_line

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    I don't know. I'm nervous about that. I really do want Djokovic to defend what is seemingly his turf at the Australian Open but I'm afraid that Nadal is going to come in and dethrone him.
     
  19. KK Partizan

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    It's a disservice to Nadal to claim Djokovic quit. (say this as a HUGE Djokovic fan)

    What happened was Djokovic decided to attempt sending winner after winner towards Nadal in the 4th set. It almost seemed like he was on tilt - the way he played is the way I play against friends after a *crappy* previous set lost via choking - and decided no risk was too great. Hence, the spraying of shots left and right.

    Regarding Nadal, congratulations to him on yet another Grand Slam. He's slowly inching his way to becoming the record-holder, which I have no doubt he will be by the end of his career. His defense is remarkable and the fact that he so heavily altered his game and still manages to win speaks of his work ethic, relentlessness, and mental strength.

    Bravo to both guys. Shame it didn't go down to the wire in a 5th set, but oh well...
     
  20. PSNELKE

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    Now that's what I call a sensible post by a Djokovic fan. ;)
    Also good to see there are some more Euro Basketball fans.
     
  21. Incognito

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    Nadal gave up in the second set, he destroyed himself. Fortunately, he woke up while serving 0-40, 4-4 in the third. He thrashed your boy in the 4th. Live with it! Just like the mental lapses at the FO where he basically dominated the whole match when it could have been a 3 set thrashing.
     
  22. counterloop

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    Obviously, those who continue to say Novak handed the match to Nadal simply refuse to recognize Nadal as a true champion and the skills he possesses which
    allow him to win again and again and again. Sour grapes they call it.
     
  23. Crose

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    He was spraying UE's because literally nothing else worked for him. He had to go for broke, and it didn't work out. You know why? Because he's simply just not as good as Nadal. The best player in the world won the match. Deal with it.
     
  24. Sid_Vicious

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    Nadal was the better player in that match and throughout the year than Djokovic, but Djokovic did go away like a chump in the 4th set; a very poor effort that was reminiscent of Djokovic's pre-2011 days.
     
  25. bullfan

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    I agree with this assessment.
     
  26. KK Partizan

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    I disagree (no offense). He was on tilt and played irrationally. I doubt he said "Ah, it's going to be too much effort to come back" and decided to finish the match as quickly as possible. He took a calculated risk figuring the magic of 2011 and early 2012 would come back and rescue him. It didn't. He failed. Oh well.

    Trust me, as a HUGE Djokovic fan, it stung to see him lose but you have to give credit to his opponent who's playing at a very, very, very high level.

    I had to be consoled by my friend, a Nadal fan, who tried to convince me Djokovic will win a couple more Grand Slams because everything I've seen this year just does not look remotely like Djokovic from 2 years ago. He doesn't have that same fight, that same passion, imo. Time to either hobnob with celebrities/Hollywood/media less and focus on your game or expect more of these types of results. Finishing 2nd is not a bad thing, but if he wants to add to his legacy, pick one.

    It's like with bodybuilding:

    Huge
    Shredded
    Natty (non-steroid user)

    PICK TWO

    ^ Just a random analogy I love using *laugh*
     
  27. abmk

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    lol, wut ? I never ever said nadal was never going to beat novak on HC in a major. Its all your delusion. Continue ....


    Again, plain BS trying to divert. I wasn't talking that much about fed's performance vs them both. I was talking about roddick playing clearly better than novak did. Roddick had considerably better stats than djokovic. LOL . look at you desperately trying to divert again. :lol:


    I have no idea about the exo you are talking about. But my point stays.

    Like I've said before, you have no clue and just want to make things look black and white. It was a combination of novak blowing it and nadal being clutch. Just either one of them would not have lead to the scoreline being what it was.

    you keep on talking about davydenko going away for a set and half vs fed in AO 10 , never acknowledging that federer changed his tactics, slicing more, hitting at him with depth rather than allowing him to hit on the run, which he was doing very well.

    double standards at its finest !
     
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  28. Overdrive

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    Why is this thread still alive?
     
  29. ScentOfDefeat

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    I love Pearl Jam. :) Ten is one of the best albums I have ever listened to.
     
  31. Chico

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    Damn. I hate to say this, but I really have to agree with Clarky here. :oops:
     
  32. ScentOfDefeat

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    I'm glad we all agree.
     
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    Some people are still whining? :)
     

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