USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center

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  1. sureshs

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    Read somewhere else that it is the center court. What is Ashe? Is it a stadium or a court or both? Is stadium = court?
     
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    Ashe is the centre court. It's going to be basically the Ashe & King stadium, now. At least, that's what they said.
     
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    The linked article reads, to me, that the National Tennis Center will be something like "The King Tennis Center" ... and that Ashe Stadium will remain unchanged. (But it isn't crystal clear....)

    - KK
     
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    Why does tennis seem to only concentrate on honoring recent greats? Billie Jean is a great person, but she isn't that old. And Ashe was winning slams in the 70s.
    Why is no stadium/tennis center named after Jack Kramer, Don Budge, Althea Gibson? Its like tennis didn't exist prior to the open era.
    Probably because most tennis fans have no idea who Kramer & Budge are, but they know who Billie Jean King/Ashe are.
     
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    The whole tennis center will be the usta billie jean king..... Ashe stadium will remains the Main Court, and will remain Arthur Ashe Stadium.
     
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    Well, one obvious reason is that they take a back seat to Louis Armstrong.

    lol
     
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    What are your thoughts?

    I have two observations:
    1) Usually this sort of hornor does not confer to a live person.
    2) Because she represents political correctness. I imagine, once this idea was proposed, it would be quite troublesome to vote against.
     
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  10. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    I'll go with your number 2.
     
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    Sounds gay, they should stick with USTA National Tennis Center.
     
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    totally agree.
     
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    Great now tennis players are gonna look look even MORE gay to the adverage person.
     
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    I would abide by #1
     
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    Billie Jean's a lesbian?
     
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    yeah. where've you been? she came out way back in the 80s
     
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    Wasn't born yet. At least not until the late 80's. And I've only been watching tennis since Federer started dominating.
     
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    She deserves a lot of credit for not only tennis, but promoting female sports...
     
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    I just e-mail protest to the USTA. IMO it's wrong decision
    to rename USTA National Tennis Center after ANY celebrity!
    She was a great champion, but we know a lot of others also... There must be a connection between her and "somebody". The USTA Ten. Center is all of us, members of USTA, we should vote on this! Very annoying,
    arrogant.
    OK, maybe court #4 with her name.
    BTW, I'm interested how much money they waste to rename it.
    Next question is: is there any connection between this and the Chris Evert training camp in Florida?
     
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    Not to mention creating the WTA as we know it today.

    I think it is *very* appropriate...there aren't many people out there who have done as much for tennis, as well as sports in general, as King. You may not like her, but you can't deny what she has accomplished.

    And if you have no clue what she's accomplished, go look it up.
     
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    Agree. I am also annoyed. And I live nearby and play there every week.

    I read that this was the idea of the new USTA chairman Johnson, who was a Hollywood consultant/accountant. I also feel that the Center belongs to all the members, and I doubt it would have been approved. I don't think a few people should make such decisions.

    King and Martina, for what they represent, are at least controversial and not popular with the public. This can best be gauged by the fact that they both command little marketing value in the private sector.
     
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    im glad the usta gives me another reason to hate them.
     
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  23. The tennis guy

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    They have Laver Arena, Court court at Australia Open. Why can't give it to a live person. If you have other reason, I'll understand your logic better.
     
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    "The center belongs to all the memebers" is the dumpest comment I have ever heard regarding USTA.

    You are a memeber of a club, then the club belongs to you?!
     
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    i think when you're looking to name everything in sight, the whole notion of "naming" something as a sort of honor, becomes trivialized.

    plus, i think it's more of a marketing thing for the usta. not that they aren't looking to honor people (like billie jean), but i have a feeling it's more to do with marketing themselves and the sport, than it does with honoring tennis legends. and it is easier to market a living player to the next generation of tennis players and fans, than to market a dead one.
     
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  26. Moose Malloy

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    I agree. Plus Don Budge Tennis Center has a nicer ring to it. The dude's the only american to win the Calendar Grand Slam, it would be nice to remind everyone of it by honoring him.
     
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    She is bi.
     
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    Belongs to whom? Is USTA a private company? A partnership? Who is the biggest shareholder? How are the board members appointed?

    If Hef decided to name playboy mansion King mansion, I would not could not say anything. Isn't USTA public in some sense? Do you know if they pay tax as a private for-profit company?
     
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    Also, Kramer and Budge do not have the same "social" significance that Ashe and King have. There is a "diversity" message behind this naming.
     
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    It doesn't matter whether it is private or public, USTA doesn't belong to the members of USTA. End of story.
     
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    the usta is oneof the worst run tennis federations in the world. seriously if u want to make it in tennis in the us u have to do it alone. they might give a little bit. also i dont want to sound racist but they seem to leaning heavly toward black athletes to try and promote.
     
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    Did the usta do any test marketing? Billie Jean King is annoying and a lot of people don't like her. Also, tennis needs to attract NEW FANS & PLAYERS, young people don't know who BJK is and don't care, also the young people who do know her or are told about her won't relate.

    She had that run in with the players on the fed cup, she has had a bad break up with her husband and later her lesbian partner who sued her.

    She is always whining, taking a stand, throwing her weight around. Stick a fork in her the game has passed her by, she was a great champion and activist, but she is no longer an ambassodor for the sport. The usta sucks and has made another bad decision.
     
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    It's about damn time they named something for a woman and I'm glad it's someone who's made as much history as Billie Jean King. Now the USO doesn't look so neanderthal anymore.

    Up next: getting rid of the "Louis Armstrong" stadium and naming it for an actual tennis player. How about the Andre Agassi Arena? :mrgreen:
     
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    whatever. everytime i hear her name i think of michael jackson's song and bud collins and i start getting turet attacks. bill jean king is so annoying with her wtt campaigning and useless fed-cup endorsing.
     
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    well, whether you like her or not, she is a big part of the history of our sport (in america and sine the open era, in particular). and just to remind you . . . arenas, ballparks, streets, towns, and other peoples' children AREN'T necessarily named after "likeable" people. they are named after WINNERS, period. and billie jean was a winner, so i guess she qualifies.

    monuments and statues are erected for people who win things, do things, achieve things. if the person is "nice" . . . well, that's just an added bonus. but i'd say if you look around your city at the statues and bulidings and parks and stadiums . . . those that aren't sponsored by some huge corporation paying big bucks for naming rights . . . are named after winners. winning cures all manner of ills in america.
     
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    I agree ... but it won't happen.

    BJK was certainly a winner -- and a "mover and a shaker" in the Open era -- but she really is one abrasive person.

    A better female choice? (As much as I hate to admit it) Chris Evert.

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    well, the usta has been all politically correct and named something after a black guy, makin' all the black folk happy . . . and now with billie jean they take care of the women AND the queers in one fell swoop . . . but sooner or later, they're gonna have to bite the bullet and name something after a plain ol' white guy (like kramer or budge). there's just no escaping it.

    cos try as they might, the usta can't get away from the fact that white guys are part of our sport's history. you can't erase the parts of the past that you'd like in order to market tennis as this all-inclusive, 'we love everyone regardless of the color of your skin and how much money your folks had/isn't tennis wonderful' image the usta might want to portray to this generation.

    i know this. and i ain't white.
     
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    I think there is a bust of Tilden near the entrance.
     
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    hahaha you made laugh.

    'one fell swoop'
    'black folk'
    'the queers'

    hahahaha
     
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    The USTA might be doing a bit of publicity because come September, the eastern section faces a major lawsuit which might show how they are quite the opposite of what they want to portray. Maybe naming a court or two would keep the attention away from the guys who are in power and raking in the money.
     
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    which is why i don't really buy this whole naming the national tennis center after billie jean king thing that the usta is trying to pawn off. they are just so heavy-handed with the sh*t they try to pull off. so much so, that it doesn't seem genuine or heartfelt. it's like every idea they have is either hackneyed or motivated by less-than-selfless reasons. like everything is part of some silly scam.

    like in austin powers . . . when scott evil pretends to sneeze every time his dad has an original idea . . . but he's really saying "RIP OFF!" under his breath. that's how i feel about the usta.
     
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