USTA League ratings question

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by storypeddler, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. storypeddler

    storypeddler Semi-Pro

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    This is something I thought I should be able to find on Tennislink or somewhere, but haven't yet. I may have overlooked it.

    If a 4.0 computer rated player gets bumped up to, say, 4.03, my understanding is that he can appeal the bump and because he is less than
    .05 above the ceiling, the appeal will be automatically granted and he will be moved back down to the 4.0 range. Correct?

    Now, benchmarked players cannot appeal their rating since they play at district level, so a benchmarked player in the same boat who gets bumped to 4.01 would have to stay there and become a 4.5 player?

    Am I correct in my assumptions? And if so, is this not a glitch in the system?
     
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  2. schmke

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    This is correct, but I don't consider it a glitch. The USTA is simply saying that they'll allow a marginal bump up to appeal down unless they went to playoffs and became a benchmark player. In their opinion, B rated players shouldn't be able to take advantage of this but should have to play at the next level up.
     
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  3. kylebarendrick

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    USTA had also refined the appeal process to deny appeals (even if you were in the automatic appeal range) if you had played 6 or more matches that generated dynamics. I haven't been able to find a clear statement whether they are still doing this, but it is worth keeping in mind. The logic was that this represented a large enough sample size to make the computer rating stand.
     
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  4. dizzlmcwizzl

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    Taken from this website

    Who Can appeal?

    Players with 5 or fewer matches used in the Year-End rating calculation
    Computer rated players—Up or Down
    Mixed Exclusive players—Up or Down
    Self-rated players—Up
     
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  5. schmke

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  6. NumbersGuy

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    Also I don't believe the threshold is 0.05 anymore, I believe they lowered it during the year of "the big move-up" and have kept it there.
     
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  7. SunshineJS

    SunshineJS New User

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    No that hasn't changed it's still .05, and it's .1 for anyone over 60 yrs old.

    As for only playing 5 matches or fewer, it has always been the case but USTA National just recently decided to make that public knowledge.
     
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  8. SunshineJS

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    Also, Benchmarks aren't allowed to appeal their ratings since they are what drive the calculation on a National level in an effort to equalize each level across the country... so a 4.0 in FL will be the same as a 4.0 in ND.
     
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  9. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I dont think so ..... of course I dont know.

    For many, many years there were players here that would be bumped at year end every year and then appeal back down to 4.0 ... despite playing lots of matches.

    It was kind of comical ... one guy I know would go 10-1 every year. Be bumped up and then appeal down every year. He became irate and quit the USTA the year he was bumped to 4.5 and was not allowed back down.
     
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