USTA Question

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  1. Tennis120PlayerA

    Tennis120PlayerA New User

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    Hi All,

    I have a question regarding USTA:

    I am a pretty strong 4.0 (my end of year rating was a 3.83) and I would really like to move up to a 4.5. I played a match against someone in USTA who is rated a little lower than me (around a 3.7). I won the match, but I had a tough time, because I played a pusher. I won the first set 7-5; lost the second set 1-6; and won the third set 6-3.

    Even though I won, won't this lower my rating since the computer may have expected me to win by more? I definitely learned from the second set I played and I decided to come in more often and take the high balls out of the air. I need to do this more often, because it really helped. Also, when you are ahead in a match, what do you normally think of to help you stay ahead? I've been trying various techniques. Does anyone have a direct link to how the USTA would determine my rating after a match? How can I improve my rating for this year?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Tennis120PlayerA

    Tennis120PlayerA New User

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    I wanted to mention, this is also not all about ratings either...it's obviously about becoming a better player! I played a good match in terms of beating a pusher, because I often have trouble against them.
     
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  3. 86golf

    86golf Semi-Pro

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    How are you able to view your dynamic rating?
     
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  4. Tennis120PlayerA

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    I don't think you are able to, technically, but do you know how the system at least works after a match?
     
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  5. Tennis120PlayerA

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    I wasn't sure if after losing a set 1-6 even though I won, would affect my rating a lot? Or maybe slightly.
     
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  6. 86golf

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    My understanding is the computer does calculate a predicted game won/loss outcome and the differntial between the computer prediction and the actual is what Impacts your dynamic rating. That said, you are correct, if the computer predicted you only losing...say 4 games, even though you won, your dynamic rating would go down.

    So how did you find your full rating?
     
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    I wonder if that is a drastic amount? Do you happen to know? I want to try to play people in singles I know that might be slightly stronger than me and hopefully figure out how to beat them/win more games than expected. If you go to tennisleaguestats.com, i found my specific rating.
     
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  8. schmke

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    The NTRP algorithm uses the game differential and opponent's rating to determine your rating for the match. In this case, you won the same number of games so if indeed your rating was higher coming in to the match, you were expected to win a few more games and didn't so your rating could go down a bit.

    If your ratings coming in were as close as you say (how did you determine these?), your rating won't drop very much as you would have been expected to win by 2 or 3 games probably.

    The USTA doesn't disclose the exact details of the algorithm but there are a variety of FAQs, other resources, and speculation on the subject and I've created an algorithm that estimated dynamic NTRP ratings. See http://computerratings.blogspot.com/search/label/tennis for more info and examples of my reports and contact me at computerratings@techrunning.com if you'd like to get one.
     
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  9. J_R_B

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    That rating is only an approximate. If it lists you 3.8 and him 3.7, there is a large enough margin of error in their calculation that the difference is negligible. Regardless, that close of a match between two people with very close ratings to start with is unlikely to affect your rating much in either direction.
     
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